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[Inutaisho7996]

Ravenmyste wrote...

The-Person wrote...

Multiplayer, I am calling it.

they already said no multiplayer.... so it has to be something else  maybe a  co op mode?

Wouldn't co-op be multiplayer?

[Gatt9]

Someone With Mass wrote...

GodWood wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Guys unfortnately we're going to have to just accept it. They haven't come out and said "no multiplayer", so it's obviously in.

-Polite

I beg to differ.
Announcing a game changing feature in some small magazine INSTEAD of E3 or at least a big gaming site is just poor marketing.

Especially a magazine that's only sold to a limited number of people in South Africa.

You're being a bit deceptive there,  I notice your post forgot to mention the other half-dozen+ sources that have also carried the same statements in the last 3 months.

I notice you also chose not to bother mentioning the ME series Multiplayer dev they hired,  or the Multiplayer QA staff they're hiring,  or the fact that they consistently avoid typing a 4 word sentence in response to these questions "No multiplayer in ME3"...

You might want to include all of that stuff in your assessment,  prior to trying to claim it's some small number of people.

You might even want to mention that Africa is highly unlikely to be concerned with news-embargoes and highly likely to break them,  since copyright protection isn't a high priority there.

[littlezack]

There are lot of places where copyright protection isn't a high priority. Why South Africa of all places?

Anyway, he wasn't being deceptive. He didn't mention that stuff because that's not what they were talking about. They were discussing whether the 'killer new feature' in the magazine is going to be multiplayer, which it could very well not be even if MP is in the game.

Modifié par littlezack, 07 octobre 2011 - 07:51 .

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

You're being a bit deceptive there,  I notice your post forgot to mention the other half-dozen+ sources that have also carried the same statements in the last 3 months.

I notice you also chose not to bother mentioning the ME series Multiplayer dev they hired,  or the Multiplayer QA staff they're hiring,  or the fact that they consistently avoid typing a 4 word sentence in response to these questions "No multiplayer in ME3"...

You might want to include all of that stuff in your assessment,  prior to trying to claim it's some small number of people.

You might even want to mention that Africa is highly unlikely to be concerned with news-embargoes and highly likely to break them,  since copyright protection isn't a high priority there.

You might also want to mention that rumors, by definition of being rumors, are going to spread so that everyone claims "X is true". Notice that no one who has put out this claim has come out with any indisputable proof. Xbox magazine already tried the "ME3 has multiplayer" claim, which turned out to be crap.

Modifié par Il Divo, 07 octobre 2011 - 07:52 .

[1136342t54_]

Gatt9 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

GodWood wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Guys unfortnately we're going to have to just accept it. They haven't come out and said "no multiplayer", so it's obviously in.

-Polite

I beg to differ.
Announcing a game changing feature in some small magazine INSTEAD of E3 or at least a big gaming site is just poor marketing.

Especially a magazine that's only sold to a limited number of people in South Africa.

You're being a bit deceptive there,  I notice your post forgot to mention the other half-dozen+ sources that have also carried the same statements in the last 3 months.

I notice you also chose not to bother mentioning the ME series Multiplayer dev they hired,  or the Multiplayer QA staff they're hiring,  or the fact that they consistently avoid typing a 4 word sentence in response to these questions "No multiplayer in ME3"...

You might want to include all of that stuff in your assessment,  prior to trying to claim it's some small number of people.

You might even want to mention that Africa is highly unlikely to be concerned with news-embargoes and highly likely to break them,  since copyright protection isn't a high priority there.

Most of those half dozen sources if not all of them comes from info of that one rumor.

[BlaCKRodjj]

Gatt9 wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

GodWood wrote...

PoliteAssasin wrote...
Guys unfortnately we're going to have to just accept it. They haven't come out and said "no multiplayer", so it's obviously in.

-Polite

I beg to differ.
Announcing a game changing feature in some small magazine INSTEAD of E3 or at least a big gaming site is just poor marketing.

Especially a magazine that's only sold to a limited number of people in South Africa.

You're being a bit deceptive there,  I notice your post forgot to mention the other half-dozen+ sources that have also carried the same statements in the last 3 months.

I notice you also chose not to bother mentioning the ME series Multiplayer dev they hired,  or the Multiplayer QA staff they're hiring,  or the fact that they consistently avoid typing a 4 word sentence in response to these questions "No multiplayer in ME3"...

You might want to include all of that stuff in your assessment,  prior to trying to claim it's some small number of people.

You might even want to mention that Africa is highly unlikely to be concerned with news-embargoes and highly likely to break them,  since copyright protection isn't a high priority there.

Yes, but the other sources also mention that "it is hinted" or "it might have multiplayer", and many recent sources link the image from the south african magazine. I'll just wait for an official confirmation from BioWare or EA

[CptBomBom00]

Multiplayer, oh what are they thinking, is this call of duty? no its ME universe but on the other hand if they would create multiplayer/co-op mode, they would have to do it properly.

[Someone With Mass]

BlaCKRodjj wrote...

Yes, but the other sources also mention that "it is hinted" or "it might have multiplayer", and many recent sources link the image from the south african magazine. I'll just wait for an official confirmation from BioWare or EA

This.

Also, just because someone happen to hire a multiplayer programmer doesn't automatically mean that the next game is going to have multiplayer. It could just mean that they're looking for a particular person who can work with certain tools that multiplayer programmers are also using.

I, for example, am a mechanic, but I can apply to other jobs within the same area, like repairman.

[onelifecrisis]

43 pages of denial. Gotta love BSN.

[Il Divo]

onelifecrisis wrote...

43 pages of denial. Gotta love BSN.

[sirgippy]

everyone panic.

[Drone223]

Couldn't help myself

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 09 octobre 2011 - 01:49 .

[DiebytheSword]

ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL

If I have to exploit you, Shepard, I will.
Your worlds will become our servers.
Human, you've changed nothing. Your species has the attention of those who publish the game. That which you know as Multiplayer is your salvation through single player's destruction.
Prepare these humans for ascention to multiplayer.

RELEASING CONTROL

All joking aside, MP will not be the end of the world, if you don't like it, you won't play it. ME is such a huge title I doubt EA would skimp on SP to make ME better.

[Kail Ashton]

soooooo team killing every last one of you

[SlottsMachine]

 I think multiplayer's effect on singleplayer is overstated, its more likely that bad singleplayer ruins the singleplayer experience. People like the throw Bioshock 2 out there as exhibit A for multiplayer being bad for singleplayer, making the assumption that with no MP the funding invested in it would have been put back into the SP. When its likely that without the MP tag, sales would be expected to be lower, therefore just from a financial standpoint it doesn't make any sense to expect them to just throw that funding into SP for no reason really other than, why the hell not.  

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 08 octobre 2011 - 04:04 .

[Gatt9]

Someone With Mass wrote...

BlaCKRodjj wrote...

Yes, but the other sources also mention that "it is hinted" or "it might have multiplayer", and many recent sources link the image from the south african magazine. I'll just wait for an official confirmation from BioWare or EA

This.

Also, just because someone happen to hire a multiplayer programmer doesn't automatically mean that the next game is going to have multiplayer. It could just mean that they're looking for a particular person who can work with certain tools that multiplayer programmers are also using.

I, for example, am a mechanic, but I can apply to other jobs within the same area, like repairman.

Now you're trying to rationalize out convulted explantations for something that has a simple one.

You don't hire someone with the specific job description of Multiplayer dev,  and then have him do level design.  You hire a Level Designer.  Nor do you specifically hire a Multiplayer dev,  and a Senior Multiplayer QA,  to have neither of them work on anything related to Multiplayer.

You hire them iff you have a definitive immediate need for someone to implement and test Multiplayer.  You don't hire Multiplayer QA staff unless you're close to releasing a Multiplayer title,  it takes only a few months to QA something,  especially something specific like Multiplayer.  This is a person who is almost completely useless in the early stages where there's nothing substantial to test.

Further,  EA is an Agile house.  Which means,  when they hire someone to perform work,  it is work that will be done in pieces,  in 2-4 week time periods.  Which means this is something immediate,  not something 2 years away.  If they're hiring a Senior Multiplayer QA,  then they expect to have something to QA in the very near future.

Since the only game they have that will be released in the very near future is ME3,  there is no mystery here.  ME3 has Multiplayer.

(No,  Star Wars doesn't need it.  First,  the positions were specifically ME positions.  Second,  Star Wars already has all of that built in,  you don't hire people with no Multiplayer experience to develop a Multiplayer product.)

I think multiplayer's effect on singleplayer is overstated, its more likely that bad singleplayer ruins the singleplayer experience. People like the throw Bioshock 2 out there as exhibit A for multiplayer being bad for singleplayer, making the assumption that with no MP the funding invested in it would have been put back into the SP. When its likely that without the MP tag, sales would be expected to be lower therefore just from a financial standpoint it doesn't make any sense to expect them to just throw that funding into SP for no reason really other than, why the hell not.

I don't think you're seeing the big picture.

1.  ME wasn't designed for multiplayer,  it's a single player game,  implementation of Multiplayer means comprimises must be made to shoehorn it into somewhere it was never meant to be.  Very similiar to Multiplayer Fable,  sure you can do it,  but really,  now you're watching someone else get the story with no idea what's going on.

2.  You're making the assumption that Bioware was given extra funds to implement multiplayer,  this is highly unlikely.  They were likely given a set budget and instructions to make sure Multiplayer was implemented.  Or more specifically,  the decision was made midway through development,  and they were told to have the team switch gears and implement the feature,  permitting a delay.  But now a portion of the team is pulled from their existing tasks to implement EA's "Used Games DRM Mandate",  Multiplayer in everything and sell the Online Passes.

3.  You're assuming Multiplayer equates to greater sales,  this does not hold true.  Putting multiplayer in something doesn't mean greater sales,  The Sims and Pokemon far outsell ME,  and they are not Multiplayer.  Many multiplayer games sold far fewer units than ME did.

Further,  studies over the years indicate relatively few people who buy games play Multiplayer,  or play very little multiplayer.  Unsupervised Children with self-control issues,  death threats,  insults,  insults against your entire family (Including pets),  grief play,  all make online play a negative experience that relatively few people who buy a game will put up with.  Look at Tribes,  Left for Dead,  Lost Planet,  all regarded as incredible games,  but didn't sell all that well,  despite huge amounts of positive word of mouth. 

[littlezack]

Gatt9 wrote...

2.  You're making the assumption that Bioware was given extra funds to implement multiplayer,  this is highly unlikely.  They were likely given a set budget and instructions to make sure Multiplayer was implemented.  Or more specifically,  the decision was made midway through development,  and they were told to have the team switch gears and implement the feature,  permitting a delay.  But now a portion of the team is pulled from their existing tasks to implement EA's "Used Games DRM Mandate",  Multiplayer in everything and sell the Online Passes.

3.  You're assuming Multiplayer equates to greater sales,  this does not hold true.  Putting multiplayer in something doesn't mean greater sales,  The Sims and Pokemon far outsell ME,  and they are not Multiplayer.  Many multiplayer games sold far fewer units than ME did. 

First off, Pokemon is multiplayer. Unless it's seriously changed since I last played it, being able to fight other trainers is one of the big draws of the game. In fact, interacting with other players is so integral to the game that you can't even get 100% completion without doing it. I gotta say, claiming that Pokemon isn't a multiplayer game is one of the weirder, more baseless things I've seen you say, and that's quite a statement. And I seem to recall the Sims have some multiplayer options, though I'm less familiar with that series.

Second off, why is 'highly unlikely' they'd be given extra funds to make multiplayer. In fact, that's some highly specific knowledge you're working with; either you're privy to the inner workings of Bioware, or you're completely pulling crap out of your ass.

And what kind of smurf logic is that? 'Many multiplayer games sold fewer units than ME'. Yeah. So? So what? Quite a few multiplayers games sold more than ME, too, big whup.

Modifié par littlezack, 08 octobre 2011 - 05:29 .

[matt-bassist]

the reason they arent responding to the rumor and putting it to rest is because once they come out and say "there is officially no multiplayer" 50% of the traffic on this site will die.
this whole multiplayer thing is the hot potato of BSN, its driving hundreds of discussions, and in turn generating a ton of interest (good and bad) in ME3.
why would they want us to STOP talking about the game? because once they denounce MP a lot of people are going to have nothing to talk about.

[Epic777]

littlezack wrote...

Gatt9 wrote...

2.  You're making the assumption that Bioware was given extra funds to implement multiplayer,  this is highly unlikely.  They were likely given a set budget and instructions to make sure Multiplayer was implemented.  Or more specifically,  the decision was made midway through development,  and they were told to have the team switch gears and implement the feature,  permitting a delay.  But now a portion of the team is pulled from their existing tasks to implement EA's "Used Games DRM Mandate",  Multiplayer in everything and sell the Online Passes.

3.  You're assuming Multiplayer equates to greater sales,  this does not hold true.  Putting multiplayer in something doesn't mean greater sales,  The Sims and Pokemon far outsell ME,  and they are not Multiplayer.  Many multiplayer games sold far fewer units than ME did. 

First off, Pokemon is multiplayer. Unless it's seriously changed since I last played it, being able to fight other trainers is one of the big draws of the game. And I seem to recall the Sims have some multiplayer options, though I'm less familiar with that series.

Second off, why is 'highly unlikely' they'd be given extra funds to make multiplayer. In fact, that's some highly specific knowledge you're working with; either you're privy to the inner workings of Bioware, or you're completely pulling crap out of your ass.

The Sims online

[JigPig]

This issue was leaked last night. The article has no mention of multiplayer, its a story/character reveal. I'll try and get a hold of the magazine scans, however I can not post them here.

[AdmiralCheez]

JigPig wrote...

This issue was leaked last night. The article has no mention of multiplayer, its a story/character reveal. I'll try and get a hold of the magazine scans, however I can not post them here.

Message me when you find them, plz.

[Bekkael]

JigPig wrote...

This issue was leaked last night. The article has no mention of multiplayer, its a story/character reveal. I'll try and get a hold of the magazine scans, however I can not post them here.

*shivers in anticipation*

[JigPig]

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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 09 octobre 2011 - 01:51 .

[InvaderErl]

The character reveal is what I'm interested in if that's the case.