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[darthnick427]

Jenova65 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

15. Kaidan - While he is my least favorite, I in no way dislike him. He just seemed to much like Carth for Kotor and I felt he had done his duty by the time Virmire happened. So I left him with the bomb. He was enjoyable while he lasted but he will not be there in ME3. Rest in Peace Kaidan old friend. P.S: I heard he outranks you on the Normandy in ME3 if he lives. NO ONE OUT RANKS MY SHEPARD!! that's another reason why he's dead.

No....... you don't have any animosity do you? *cynical*
Firstly, he shares the same voice actor and that is the only similarity, imo.... I think you should maybe replay KOTOR without any pre-conceptions  Carth is gruff and suspicious, Kaidan isn't, Carth gives you a hard time when you try and speak to him, Kaidan doesn't ~ the list of differences is far longer than the list of similarities (but I can't be bothered to bore people with it) honestly..... replay... What has actually happened is that people have been saying it for so long that everyone just thinks it is fact now.. 

No one outranks your Shepard? Hackett does for one and so do many other (albeit faceless) people in the Alliance military, lol.... there are a slew of folk who can tell Shepard what to do if Shepard is Alliance and if Shepard isn't, then Kaidan doesn't outrank and it doesn't matter... you may be worrying too much about a pretend person here  <<<<< JK

Hahaha. Well I've always thought of Kaidan and Carth as one in the same so maybe that's why I think this way. and I just meant I don't want anyone on the Normandy out ranking me. I don't need anyone underminding my authority tho I doubt he actually would say anything against you. He repects Shepard too much. I have a save ready with Kaidan surviving tho. Just the first couple of Saves Ash survived. Kaidan will get his time in ME3 don't you worry.  He did seem like he'd be a good friend to my Shep in ME1 so who knows maybe I'll like him more in ME3

[ZenJestr]

1. Tali
2. Legion
3. Garrus
4. Wrex
5. Liara
6. Kasumi
7. Mordin
8. Jack
9. Thane
10. Samara
11. Zaeed
12. Kaidan
13. Ashley
14. Grunt
15. Miranda/Morinth
16. Jacob

(keep in mind that even though Jacob is last, I don't hate him...I just like him the least)

However, in terms of gameplay:

ME1:
1. Wrex
2. Tali
3. Garrus
4. Liara
5. Kaidan
6. Ashley

ME2:
1. Samara
2. Miranda
3. Tali
4. Kasumi
5. Mordin
6. Thane
7. Legion/Morinth
8. Garrus
9. Grunt
10. Zaeed
11. Jacob
12. Jack

[ReallyRue]

If Joker were an option, I'd put him right at the top.

*Love*
1. Legion
2. Wrex
3. Jack
4. Samara

*Like*
5. Ashley
6. Garrus
7. Kasumi
8. Mordin
9. Zaeed

*Meh*
10. Liara
11. Tali
12. Thane
13. Kaidan
14. Jacob
15. Grunt
15. Morinth

*Dislike*
16. Miranda

[Jenova65]

darthnick427 wrote...

Jenova65 wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...

15. Kaidan - While he is my least favorite, I in no way dislike him. He just seemed to much like Carth for Kotor and I felt he had done his duty by the time Virmire happened. So I left him with the bomb. He was enjoyable while he lasted but he will not be there in ME3. Rest in Peace Kaidan old friend. P.S: I heard he outranks you on the Normandy in ME3 if he lives. NO ONE OUT RANKS MY SHEPARD!! that's another reason why he's dead.

No....... you don't have any animosity do you? *cynical*
Firstly, he shares the same voice actor and that is the only similarity, imo.... I think you should maybe replay KOTOR without any pre-conceptions  Carth is gruff and suspicious, Kaidan isn't, Carth gives you a hard time when you try and speak to him, Kaidan doesn't ~ the list of differences is far longer than the list of similarities (but I can't be bothered to bore people with it) honestly..... replay... What has actually happened is that people have been saying it for so long that everyone just thinks it is fact now.. 

No one outranks your Shepard? Hackett does for one and so do many other (albeit faceless) people in the Alliance military, lol.... there are a slew of folk who can tell Shepard what to do if Shepard is Alliance and if Shepard isn't, then Kaidan doesn't outrank and it doesn't matter... you may be worrying too much about a pretend person here  <<<<< JK

Hahaha. Well I've always thought of Kaidan and Carth as one in the same so maybe that's why I think this way. and I just meant I don't want anyone on the Normandy out ranking me. I don't need anyone underminding my authority tho I doubt he actually would say anything against you. He repects Shepard too much. I have a save ready with Kaidan surviving tho. Just the first couple of Saves Ash survived. Kaidan will get his time in ME3 don't you worry.  He did seem like he'd be a good friend to my Shep in ME1 so who knows maybe I'll like him more in ME3

Well... what do you know.... someone on BSN with a fully functioning sense of humour  Epic..... 
*Expected to be taken the wrong way* YAY you 

[jeweledleah]

jreezy wrote...

darthnick427 wrote...
15. Kaidan - While he is my least favorite, I in no way dislike him. He just seemed to much like Carth from Kotor *snip*

Where are people even getting this impression from? Besides being in the military of their respective universes they don't really seem too much alike.

Same voice actor = Carth clone.  who cares if their back story and characterization are practicaly opposite CARTH CLONE ! <_<

sigh

poor Jacob :/  people are giving you even less of a chance then they did Kaidan

[alex90c]

What's wrong with ME2 Tali? I found the ME1 version awfully boring whereas she actually got a personality in ME2.

[Kabanya101]

Love:
1) Liara- all time favorite character and only love interest

Bros:
1) Wrex- Krogan Battlemaster, what more is needed
2) Garrus- second in command and fellow sniper
3) Grunt- great fighter and ally

Good Friends:
1) Tali- a little quirky and ackward, but in a good way
2) Miranda- deep character and cleavage
3) Samara- if I could have romanced her, I would have, but not with canon shep
4) Katsumi- liked her voice and character, wish she had more dialouge
5) Ashley- besides her boyish looks, she was cool
6) Jacob- loyal, devoted, great guy to have my back

Eh:
1) Legion- so late in the game, found him pointless to even have
2) Thane- never talked to him, don't care

Want dead and to stay dead:
1) Kaiden- I got nothing to say, put me to sleep everytime I talked to him, plus he was a little feminine, kind of weird
2) Jack- DEAD, hate her looks, voice, everything, dead, dead, dead
3) Zaeed- poser, that's all I can say to a guy that acts tough
4) Mordin- a crackhead on my team seems a little dangerous
5) Morinth- Samara is a million times better

Though I didn't kill anyone on my suicide mission or in ME1, aside from Kaiden, I wish I would have been forced to kill them. I don't have the heart to take an innocent life, no matter how much I hate Jack.

[sesheta255]

Love - Kaidan - survived Virmire in every playthrough and stayed faithful to him in ME2
Like - Mordin, Grunt, Miranda, Jacob, Thane, Jack, Wrex
Dislike - Zaeed, Kasumi, Ash, Legion
Can't stand - Tali, Liara, Garrus, Samara

Modifié par sesheta255, 02 octobre 2011 - 11:12 .

[Golden Owl]

1 & 2 Tie Breaker:

Garrus...Sheps Second in Command...Awesome dialog, awesome bro, awesome squaddie...Love Garrus...
Kasumi...What's not to love....Dialog, personality, appearence...EVERYTHING about her....

3 & 4 Tie Breaker:

Legion....Fascinating, thought provoking dialog...Love the once were enemies angle and his adorable.
Thane...Another though provoking dialog....There's just this air about him.

5 & 6 Tie Breaker:

Kaidan....So sublime and such a nice dude...Thoughtful and level...Would be a dear friend in r/l.
Samara....Interesting dialog, I would love to know more about her....she fascinates me.

7 & 8 Tie Breaker:

Tali...Sweet girl...her romance is very cute...I like the fact also that she doesn't become an LI until ME2, seems more natural to me, attraction building over time, not 'I see, I wants!'.
Zaeed....He sounds like my dad when he laughs, has left me soft on him.

9, 10, 11 & 12 Tiebreaker:

Ash....Can take or leave her....What a cynic, bleh
Jacob...Can take or leave him...What a cynic, bleh...though at least he can be trusted.
Jack...My heart goes out to her, but she is so crass and ruthless.
Mordin....Aggravates me a bit, but that's a personal thing, he just feels so chaotic...Chaos aggravates me.

13 & 14 Tie Breaker:

Liara....Sweet enough in ME1, too sweet actually...Turns ruthless in ME2, one unpleasent extreme to the other.
Morinth...Saved her once for 'Dominance'...she was pretty good combat wise.

15 & 16 Tie Breaker:

Wrex...His a Krogan...blood thristy war monger....don't want him on my ship....tried him out a few times then never took him anywhere again....Do not like his dialog.
Grunt...His a Krogan...blood thirsty war monger....don't want him on my ship....tried him out a few times then never took him anywhere again....Do not like his dialog.

17...Lucky last:

Miranda...Ruthless and completely self absorbed...GET OFF MY SHIP!

Modifié par Golden Owl, 02 octobre 2011 - 11:34 .

[Asari_Party]

You dislike Miranda and Liara because they're too ruthless...but Garrus, Thane and Samara are among your favorites?


That doesn't make sense to me.

[Golden Owl]

Roxy12 wrote...

You dislike Miranda and Liara because they're too ruthless...but Garrus, Thane and Samara are among your favorites?


That doesn't make sense to me.

Garrus..."You know I hate injustice"....Garrus is trying to do the right thing, he wants to do good for the Galaxy...for ALL...a Batman who kills as such....His heart is in the right place, his just hot headed too.

Thane....Listen closely to his dialogs, both on the Normandy and the battlefield....I may not agree with all his perceptions...the "Dis-Connect...his body is only a tool, etc..."....but I can understand the concept and what he is trying to say.

Samara....Extreme Law enforcement...she is another I don't necessarily agree with (the code), but like Thane, I can understand the concept and what she is trying to say.

Liara and Miranda are in it primarily for themselves, a self absorbed focus...their circle of compassion is very small. and exclusive....and willing to sacrifice the lives of many uninvolved others to forward their agendas....At least Garrus, Thane and Samara care, Miranda and Liara don't.

[Asari_Party]

Golden Owl wrote...

Garrus..."You know I hate injustice"....Garrus is trying to do the right thing, he wants to do good for the Galaxy...for ALL...a Batman who kills as such....His heart is in the right place, his just hot headed too.

Thane....Listen closely to his dialogs, both on the Normandy and the battlefield....I may not agree with all his perceptions...the "Dis-Connect...his body is only a tool, etc..."....but I can understand the concept and what he is trying to say.

Samara....Extreme Law enforcement...she is another I don't necessarily agree with (the code), but like Thane, I can understand the concept and what she is trying to say.

Liara and Miranda are in it primarily for themselves, a self absorbed focus...their circle of compassion is very small. and exclusive....and willing to sacrifice the lives of many uninvolved others to forward their agendas....At least Garrus, Thane and Samara care, Miranda and Liara don't.

Sorry, I still don't get it.

Liara
The worst thing she does is the execution of five criminals who work for the Shadow Broker (the same SB who worked for the collectors). Why? She wants to save Feron.

Miranda
I guess the control chip. She wants to save the human colonies.

Garrus tortured people to death. Thane killed for money.

-> I prefer Liara's and Miranda's agenda.

Modifié par Roxy12, 03 octobre 2011 - 12:39 .

[darthnick427]

Roxy12 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Garrus..."You know I hate injustice"....Garrus is trying to do the right thing, he wants to do good for the Galaxy...for ALL...a Batman who kills as such....His heart is in the right place, his just hot headed too.

Thane....Listen closely to his dialogs, both on the Normandy and the battlefield....I may not agree with all his perceptions...the "Dis-Connect...his body is only a tool, etc..."....but I can understand the concept and what he is trying to say.

Samara....Extreme Law enforcement...she is another I don't necessarily agree with (the code), but like Thane, I can understand the concept and what she is trying to say.

Liara and Miranda are in it primarily for themselves, a self absorbed focus...their circle of compassion is very small. and exclusive....and willing to sacrifice the lives of many uninvolved others to forward their agendas....At least Garrus, Thane and Samara care, Miranda and Liara don't.

Sorry, I still don't get it.

Liara
The worst thing she does is the execution of five criminals who work for the Shadow Broker (the same SB who worked for the collectors). Why? She wants to save Feron.

Miranda
I guess the control chip. She wants to save the human colonies.

Garrus tortured people to death. Thane killed for money.

-> I prefer Liara's and Miranda's agenda.

When did Garrus torture people to death? the closest thing he's done to torture is beat up Harkin.

[Asari_Party]

darthnick427 wrote...

When did Garrus torture people to death? the closest thing he's done to torture is beat up Harkin.

His Shadow broker files

[Golden Owl]

Roxy12 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Garrus..."You know I hate injustice"....Garrus is trying to do the right thing, he wants to do good for the Galaxy...for ALL...a Batman who kills as such....His heart is in the right place, his just hot headed too.

Thane....Listen closely to his dialogs, both on the Normandy and the battlefield....I may not agree with all his perceptions...the "Dis-Connect...his body is only a tool, etc..."....but I can understand the concept and what he is trying to say.

Samara....Extreme Law enforcement...she is another I don't necessarily agree with (the code), but like Thane, I can understand the concept and what she is trying to say.

Liara and Miranda are in it primarily for themselves, a self absorbed focus...their circle of compassion is very small. and exclusive....and willing to sacrifice the lives of many uninvolved others to forward their agendas....At least Garrus, Thane and Samara care, Miranda and Liara don't.

Sorry, I still don't get it.

Liara
The worst thing she does is the execution of five criminals who work for the Shadow Broker (the same SB who worked for the collectors). Why? She wants to save Feron.

Miranda
I guess the control chip. She wants to save the human colonies.

Garrus tortured people to death. Thane killed for money.

-> I prefer Liara's and Miranda's agenda.

Your got me thinking about peoples perspectives on these five NPC's...so I have raised the same question in each of their fan threads...might be interesting to keep an eye on those.

As for Liara....listen to her dialog immediantly after her and Shep kill Vasir up until you cut to the shuttle.

[Golden Owl]

darthnick427 wrote...

Roxy12 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Garrus..."You know I hate injustice"....Garrus is trying to do the right thing, he wants to do good for the Galaxy...for ALL...a Batman who kills as such....His heart is in the right place, his just hot headed too.

Thane....Listen closely to his dialogs, both on the Normandy and the battlefield....I may not agree with all his perceptions...the "Dis-Connect...his body is only a tool, etc..."....but I can understand the concept and what he is trying to say.

Samara....Extreme Law enforcement...she is another I don't necessarily agree with (the code), but like Thane, I can understand the concept and what she is trying to say.

Liara and Miranda are in it primarily for themselves, a self absorbed focus...their circle of compassion is very small. and exclusive....and willing to sacrifice the lives of many uninvolved others to forward their agendas....At least Garrus, Thane and Samara care, Miranda and Liara don't.

Sorry, I still don't get it.

Liara
The worst thing she does is the execution of five criminals who work for the Shadow Broker (the same SB who worked for the collectors). Why? She wants to save Feron.

Miranda
I guess the control chip. She wants to save the human colonies.

Garrus tortured people to death. Thane killed for money.

-> I prefer Liara's and Miranda's agenda.

When did Garrus torture people to death? the closest thing he's done to torture is beat up Harkin.

In Garrus's SB Dossier, he mets out the punishment to suit the crime....I can't remeber the exacts....but along the lines of 'A Drug Dealer would die by overdose'.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 03 octobre 2011 - 12:45 .

[Asari_Party]

Golden Owl wrote...

As for Liara....listen to her dialog immediantly after her and Shep kill Vasir up until you cut to the shuttle.

ME2 Liara is more ruthless than ME1 Liara, that's true of course.

I just don't understand why she is on the top of your "most ruthless character" list

Modifié par Roxy12, 03 octobre 2011 - 12:59 .

[darthnick427]

Golden Owl wrote...

In Garrus's SB Dossier, he mets out the punishment to suit the crime....I can't remeber the exacts....but along the lines of 'A Drug Dealer would die by overdose'.

I saw those. Only a couple were like that. The rest were mostly headshot by sniper rifle. If he did kill them by the crimes like you say. That just made Garrus cooler in my eyes. That's the renegade Spectre Garrus I trained him to be in ME1:devil: even though I'm paragon.

Modifié par darthnick427, 03 octobre 2011 - 01:00 .

[Ravensword]

1. Kasumi
2. Garrus
3. Tali
4. Samara
5. Liara
6. Legion
7. Zaeed
8. Grunt/Wrex
9. Thane
10. Jacob
11. Kaidan
12. Mordin
13. Ashley

Will the following people please report to the airlock: Miranda, Jack and Morinth