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[IronSabbath88]

1. Grunt
2. Wrex
3. Legion
4. Ashley
5. Jack
6. Garrus
7. Kasumi
8. Mordin
9. Liara
10. Jacob
11. Miranda
12. Thane
13. Tali
14. Kaidan
15. Samara
16. Zaeed
17. Morinth

Yep. I'm a Krogan fan... if you couldn't tell. Ashley and Jack are by far my favourite LI's

[FSOAH]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

1. Grunt
2. Wrex

You a krogan lover, human?

[IronSabbath88]

LOL. I wouldn't say "lover". More like Krogan brother from another mother.

[CrazyRah]

1. Wrex
2. Mordin
3. Kaidan
4. Garrus
5. Miranda
6. Ashley
7. Liara
8. Thane
9. Zaeed
10. Samara
11. Legion
12. Jack
13. Kasumi
14. Tali
15. Grunt
16. Jacob
17. Morinth

I don't hate any character and like more or less everyone. Some i just don't connect well with but they're not bad because of that

[Quole]

Arcian wrote...

Quole wrote...

I sure hope you are joking. It is even stated in the game how their immune systems works. Please educate yourself before you  make retarded accusations. You cant deny it. Troll more plz... Or you are just an idiot. Im betting the latter.

>Trying to win arguments by going Insult Mode X2000
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Quole wrote...

The `risk` factor for the romance was never decreased in ME2. If anything, it was increased from ME1.

That piece of lore has never, ever been consistent. Ever.

Quole wrote...

I didnt realize I was a "whiteknight" for pointing out someone's stupidity. Now I know.

The only thing that's going on here is that you're suffering from a major case of chronic colon calamity because someone has the nerve to insult your waifu.

My point is that you said they had to make the risk factor decrease. Which isnt the case. How did you not get that? Oh right..... wait, why is that  lore not consistent again (according to you)? Also when did I start using insults to win an argument? I am simply using them in addition to arguing. Actually, I wouldnt consider them insults, as they are factual.
And really the only thing thats going on here is me exposing another idiot on this forum. Nothing more. It happens. I wont judge you.

Modifié par Quole, 03 octobre 2011 - 07:18 .

[Drone223]

Favourites: (No particular order)
Legion
Garrus
Mordin
Samara
Wrex
Grunt
Kasumi
Zaeed
Thane

Good range:
Tali
Jack
Kaidan
Ashley
Jacob

Okay
Miranda


Like and dislike at the same time
Liara: Good LI, powers in combat are great and has insight into the protheans but at the same time she is highly submissive to Shepard the dog tags and a segment of Shepards amour show a degree of hero worship, that is creepy imo

[Quole]

Arcian wrote...

Quole wrote...

My point is that you said they had to make the risk factor decrease. Which isnt the case. How did you not get that? Oh right..... wait, why is that  lore not consistent again (according to you)? Also when did I start using insults to win an argument? I am simply using them in addition to arguing. Actually, I wouldnt consider them insults, as they are factual.
And really the only thing thats going on here is me exposing another idiot on this forum. Nothing more. It happens. I wont judge you.

I have never laughed so hard in my entire life. Thanks, man, you're hilarious.

You have been reported for trolling and harassment.

[Quole]

jreezy wrote...

Quole wrote...

Arcian wrote...

Quole wrote...

My point is that you said they had to make the risk factor decrease. Which isnt the case. How did you not get that? Oh right..... wait, why is that  lore not consistent again (according to you)? Also when did I start using insults to win an argument? I am simply using them in addition to arguing. Actually, I wouldnt consider them insults, as they are factual.
And really the only thing thats going on here is me exposing another idiot on this forum. Nothing more. It happens. I wont judge you.

I have never laughed so hard in my entire life. Thanks, man, you're hilarious.

You have been reported for trolling and harassment.

You always do come off as rude. I wonder why?

Im just sick of colossi and ****ing sentries.

Modifié par Quole, 03 octobre 2011 - 09:53 .

[Labrev]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Stable didn't come from the SB Dossier it came from how quickly he gets over discovering the truth about his father and how he completely cuts off Shepard if he/she tries to "fix him" scathing remarks and all and it STILL doens't ruin his loyalty once it's gained. While Garrus or Tali, or Samara, or Jack will still be talking about their LM well after it's resolved, Jacob's like "eh it's over, I moved in before we even got there." no matter which option you choose (jail, suicide, or leaving him to the hunters)

Yeah, well just getting that out of him was a pain. Seriously:

Jacob: Commander, sorry I'm a little unfocused. Personal matter, won't affect my duties. (It actually is, very much so)
Shepard: ... is that why you left Kelly a note for me to see you??
Jacob: Oh yeah, uh, I got pinged by a ghost last night. Family.
Shepard: Get to the point.
Jacob: My father was on a ship that went missing 10 years ago, its distress signal was just forwarded to me.
Me behind TV Screen: You were just going to sit on information that your father is stranded somewhere needing your help while it was distracting you?? Okay, back to the game:
Shepard: So... you want to check it out?
Jacob: well no, it could just be a goose-chase, but (obviously it's distracting me and everything) ....

Does any other squadmate make it that difficult to ask for a favor? But I suppose that since he isn't scarred in any way he's automatically "more normal" than the rest of them. Right.

ADLegend21 wrote...
As for his treatment of the team, he outfits them all for weapons as he's the armory chief, squadmates go straight to his desk for the weapons and armor( and to Mordin for upgrades I think)

Yes Thane is an assassin, he's paid to kill people no matter what they've done, i seem to recall him having a game about him where he stops assassin. See the connection?

So it's better because Jacob effectively stereotypes Thane with every other assassin he knows of? Not like Shepard doesn't spend half his/her time killing mercs either.

ADLegend21 wrote...
While yes Miranda feigns civility towards Jack, that also ends up in them having a biotic pissing contest in her office after their loyalty missions are done. Does that happen withJacob? Nope.

Of course not, Jacob has no teeth! All he can do is cheapshot the newcomer.

Miranda and Jack's fight prove that they are strong individuals with a lot of fire in them. Not the most mature thing in the world, but it's still good to see that kind of passion on your squad. You see fights breakout between teammates on the same pro-sports teams all the time. It's not good, but it's not totally bad either, it means you have people taking it seriously.

When Jacob just makes a prickish comment at a guy, I'm not completely sure he's not fighting with him later out of maturity, or if he's all-bark/no-bite.


Oh, and if Jacob is needed to "neutralize" the craziness on the ship, what's up with the fights? And is he supposed to break them up?  (Rhetorical question, to which the answer is: "no")

ADLegend21 wrote...
And don't even get me STARTED on Tali's reaction towards him. He was nice, he complimented her, offered to get her clearanceto access the ship and she was a **** to him just because of the logo on his chest. He even warne dher about EDI but she took offense to that when it's a PLAIN warning. If she'd done anything and EDI popped up denying her, she'd be like "you could hve warned me!" but no she jsut acts like a little **** toward him for no reason.

I have no issue with Tali debriefing or foot-in-mouth comment (Shepard is not to be outdone in that regard), Tali was acting like a brat. It's especially tacky if Jacob was there on the recruitment team that saved her life!

What WAS stupid was Jacob saying Tali would need security clearance before settling back into Engineering. Only happens if Shepard takes paragon-response to Tali. I tend to choose the other, but still know of it. So as a hardcore critic of security-checking we do today, that doesn't exactly score any points from me either. Tali (1) knows more about the Normandy SR2 than anyone else on ship... before she sets foot in it! (2) Tali has my full and complete trust, and more of it than Jacob anyway (3) If she really wants to do something bad, a security-check before hand will NOT stop her! If any snotty response from Tali was deserving, it was what she said in response to this one.

But technically that never happens in my canon career so I'll give him a pass on it.

ADLegend21 wrote...
Also, the "defending what Cerberus does to veetor" and "defending them on teltin" those are canned lines. EVERYONE that's not Jack says teltin went Rogue, even Kasumi and Zaeed and they're DLC characters. So tht's nothing.

Nope! Jacob has an extra line defending Cerberus in Jack LM. Veetor is only a Jacob/Miranda thing. Miranda I can understand (still tacky, but whatever, she doesn't act like she's not a die-hard Cerberus loyalist). For Jacob, it just makes me shake my head, for obvious reasons.

ADLegend21 wrote...
This is the typical human male squadmate reaction, it's happening to vega and we only know that he bea tthe**** out of some Batarians because they attacked him for defending Shepard and that he has PTSD from a mission.  I guaren-damn-tee If Jacob was a turian the fan base would be all over him because he's an exotic alien.

Please look at my rankings before making that conclusion. All 6 other human squadmates made my top-10, and everyone below that mark is effectively in my "meh" category. Jacob is the only exception (and the only one to rank underneath "meh" for me) because he's even LESS human than Grunt.


I already like Vega more than Jacob, cat's got some fire in him. It's what I liked about Kaidan too, so I'm excited!

Jacob Failure is not a man's man.

Modifié par Hah Yes Reapers, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:00 .

[jeweledleah]

ummm - about that security clearance - pretty sure he said it in: "let me give you the clearance so that you don't have to hack your way in" way, and Tali understood it as such with her "please DO" reply.

Jacob does have some fire in him and a certain stubbornness. he knows his mind, when you push him, he pushes back, what his father did - DID in fact ****** him off, he just chose not to dwell on it (its part of what I also liked about Kaidan, he didn't dwell, he dealt with his problems and he only tells Shepard about his past as a cautionary tale)

which extra line does Jacob have exactly on Jack's mission? because I clearly remember him being horrified by that place (canned lines, voice actor's inflection). I think it was Miranda that had an extra line there.

[Xilizhra]

I guaren-damn-tee If Jacob was a turian the fan base would be all over him because he's an exotic alien.

This is utterly absurd. If you can't say "overshadowed by Garrus," learn it now.

[ADLegend21]

Xilizhra wrote...

I guaren-damn-tee If Jacob was a turian the fan base would be all over him because he's an exotic alien.

This is utterly absurd. If you can't say "overshadowed by Garrus," learn it now.

orly? A Turian that doesn't put up with BS, has a cool head on his shoulders, doesn't whine, and is romanceable. it'd be "garrus who?" oh yeah that one guy from the other ship."

[Xilizhra]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I guaren-damn-tee If Jacob was a turian the fan base would be all over him because he's an exotic alien.

This is utterly absurd. If you can't say "overshadowed by Garrus," learn it now.

orly? A Turian that doesn't put up with BS, has a cool head on his shoulders, doesn't whine, and is romanceable. it'd be "garrus who?" oh yeah that one guy from the other ship."

Er, no. It'd be "yay, Garrus is back! Wait, did we have some other turian?"

And if you think being human was all the handicap Jacob needed, look at Miranda's rather substantial fanbase.

[Ravensword]

Xilizhra wrote...

And if you think being human was all the handicap Jacob needed, look at Miranda's rather substantial fanbase.

Catsuit, T&A.

Modifié par Ravensword, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:31 .

[Xilizhra]

Well, Jacob certainly had A. And abs, which may or may not be the T equivalent for straight women. However, his female fanbase is pretty small too, so the problem would seem to lie somewhere in his personality.

[Golden Owl]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, Jacob certainly had A. And abs, which may or may not be the T equivalent for straight women. However, his female fanbase is pretty small too, so the problem would seem to lie somewhere in his personality.

His cynacism...if he wasn't so cynical and negative in his comments ( I find Jacob and Ash very same, same)...he would be fine...Though I do give him big cudo's for his post CB comment if Shep blows it sky high....Jacob has one of my favorite lines then....FTW...

[Ravensword]

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, Jacob certainly had A. And abs, which may or may not be the T equivalent for straight women. However, his female fanbase is pretty small too, so the problem would seem to lie somewhere in his personality.

He requires a sense of humor. Then again, that's Joker's department.

[Ravensword]

Golden Owl wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Well, Jacob certainly had A. And abs, which may or may not be the T equivalent for straight women. However, his female fanbase is pretty small too, so the problem would seem to lie somewhere in his personality.

His cynacism...if he wasn't so cynical and negative in his comments ( I find Jacob and Ash very same, same)...he would be fine...Though I do give him big cudo's for his post CB comment if Shep blows it sky high....Jacob has one of my favorite lines then....FTW...

What's wrong w/ cynacism?

[ADLegend21]

[quote]ADLegend21 wrote...

[quote] Hah Yes Reapers wrote...


Yeah, well just getting that out of him was a pain. Seriously:

Jacob: Commander, sorry I'm a little unfocused. Personal matter, won't affect my duties. (It actually is, very much so)
Shepard: ... is that why you left Kelly a note for me to see you??
Jacob: Oh yeah, uh, I got pinged by a ghost last night. Family.
Shepard: Get to the point.
Jacob: My father was on a ship that went missing 10 years ago, its distress signal was just forwarded to me.
Me behind TV Screen: You were just going to sit on information that your father is stranded somewhere needing your help while it was distracting you?? Okay, back to the game:
Shepard: So... you want to check it out?
Jacob: well no, it could just be a goose-chase, but (obviously it's distracting me and everything) ....

Does any other squadmate make it that difficult to ask for a favor? But I suppose that since he isn't scarred in any way he's automatically "more normal" than the rest of them. Right.[/quote]
He doens't like asking for help on this, big deal. Would YOU jsut willy nilly ask your CO oh yeah let's go find this abandoned ship my dad served on cuzhe might be alive. When you say yes he says "we might just find a pile of bones, but it's better than not knowing. He's not sure if he wants to go and check but as soon as it's done "that's behind me, let's talk about you" Stable.

[quote]
So it's better because Jacob effectively stereotypes Thane with every other assassin he knows of? Not like Shepard doesn't spend half his/her time killing mercs either.[/quote]
Thane goes through an entire tower of Mercenaries, racing Shepard's team for most kills while they're trying to find him. Oh he's also trying to assasinate one of the most well known business women in the galaxy despite her not doing a thing to him. There's nothing morally wrong about that at all. "an assasin is loyal to their next pay check" it's true, he killed for money. Shepard kills for the military and self defense. The only reason he doens't say that aboutzaeed is because Zaeed is DLC. What you're NOT mentioning that is he looks brokenup about garrus when his mission is done and calls him a "tough sonuva b*tch" when he walks in the debreifing room. He's incredibly kind and respectful to Samara and only gets snippy with Tali because she's rude to him after he's been nothing but kind to her.

[quote]
Of course not, Jacob has no teeth! All he can do is cheapshot the newcomer.

Miranda and Jack's fight prove that they are strong individuals with a lot of fire in them. Not the most mature thing in the world, but it's still good to see that kind of passion on your squad. You see fights breakout between teammates on the same pro-sports teams all the time. It's not good, but it's not totally bad either, it means you have people taking it seriously.

When Jacob just makes a prickish comment at a guy, I'm not completely sure he's not fighting with him later out of maturity, or if he's all-bark/no-bite.
[/quote]
No Teeth? did you miss the part about saving the coucil from batrian terrorists? plus he's the only biotic on the team capable of producing his own protective barrier, and a powerful barrier at that. The only reason he's not able to do the bubbe is because he's a fire team leader and they didn't want to OP him.  He's also incredibly accurate witha shotgun, at range. Thane rely's on his reflexes, but Jacbo's biotics would give him the win in a war of attrition.



[quote]
I have no issue with Tali debriefing or foot-in-mouth comment (Shepard is not to be outdone in that regard), Tali was acting like a brat. It's especially tacky if Jacob was there on the recruitment team that saved her life!
[/quote]
glad we can agree on that.

[quote]
What WAS stupid was Jacob saying Tali would need security clearance before settling back into Engineering. Only happens if Shepard takes paragon-response to Tali. I tend to choose the other, but still know of it. So as a hardcore critic of security-checking we do today, that doesn't exactly score any points from me either. Tali (1) knows more about the Normandy SR2 than anyone else on ship... before she sets foot in it! (2) Tali has my full and complete trust, and more of it than Jacob anyway (3) If she really wants to do something bad, a security-check before hand will NOT stop her! If any snotty response from Tali was deserving, it was what she said in response to this one.[/quote]
EDI would stop her. She's got tech to counter the Reapers, she could easily hack and destroy Tali's omnitool if she tried to hack her way into security.

[quote]ADLegend21 wrote...
Also, the "defending what Cerberus does to veetor" and "defending them on teltin" those are canned lines. EVERYONE that's not Jack says teltin went Rogue, even Kasumi and Zaeed and they're DLC characters. So tht's nothing.[/quote]


[quote]Nope! Jacob has an extra line defending Cerberus in Jack LM. Veetor is only a Jacob/Miranda thing. Miranda I can understand (still tacky, but whatever, she doesn't act like she's not a die-hard Cerberus loyalist). For Jacob, it just makes me shake my head, for obvious reasons.[/quote]
Does he? I'v enever heard it and I've taken everyone on Jack's LM and seen the youtube vid that has everyone's repsonses in it. even so, Teltin went Rogue. the way they went through subjects would have had TIM shut it down but they with held info from him.

[quote]
Jacob Failure is not a man's man.[/quote]
THIS is possibly the worst "criticism" I've heard in my time on the BSN and I've seen some dumb stuff. a "mans man" is a joke. Letting testosterone control your brain is something you DON'T need in the military during a war, especially a war for the survival of a species. Jacob is intelligent, he knows when and where he's needed, he does his job and does it well, he's not a meathead and looking for stupid fights like a juvenile Krogan (ala Wrex's line "when you're young you go looking for fights, when you get older, you realize the best fights come to you") He's not a rah rah person, he let's his work do the talking. He embraces his emotions instead of putting them off in some machismo fit. Just because he doesn't fit your definition of a "mans man" doens't make him one damn great squadmate that you can count on to do his job the best of his abilities no matter the situation.

Modifié par ADLegend21, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:54 .

[ADLegend21]

Xilizhra wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I guaren-damn-tee If Jacob was a turian the fan base would be all over him because he's an exotic alien.

This is utterly absurd. If you can't say "overshadowed by Garrus," learn it now.

orly? A Turian that doesn't put up with BS, has a cool head on his shoulders, doesn't whine, and is romanceable. it'd be "garrus who?" oh yeah that one guy from the other ship."

Er, no. It'd be "yay, Garrus is back! Wait, did we have some other turian?"

And if you think being human was all the handicap Jacob needed, look at Miranda's rather substantial fanbase.

it's not the species, it's the Gender. He's the human male squaddie n a bioware game. instant death sentence because he doesn't have a rack and is into the male PC.

[Xilizhra]

He's incredibly kind and respectful to Samara and only gets snippy with Tali because she's rude to him after he's been nothing but kind to her.

Hmm, pleasant Cerberus-aligned guy being distrusted by ME1 female squadmate? Gee, I wonder whom else that might apply to, whom you've so passionately defended before...

Thane rely's on his reflexes, but Jacbo's biotics would give him the win in a war of attrition.

Um... Thane's a biotic too.

it's not the species, it's the Gender. He's the human male squaddie n a bioware game. instant death sentence because he doesn't have a rack and is into the male PC.

Alistair. It's far from a guarantee.

Modifié par Xilizhra, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:55 .