ADLegend21 wrote...
He doens't like asking for help on this, big deal. Would YOU jsut willy nilly ask your CO oh yeah let's go find this abandoned ship my dad served on cuzhe might be alive. When you say yes he says "we might just find a pile of bones, but it's better than not knowing. He's not sure if he wants to go and check but as soon as it's done "that's behind me, let's talk about you" Stable.
It bothered him enough to inform Kelly. So when I go over to see him I expect an explanation, especially when it IS affecting his duties. It's simple, and every other "crazy" squadmate seems to get that. (>> And wasn't he telling me just minutes earlier about how the squad needs to deal with their personal issues?? Right after the post-Horizon TIM debrief.)
ADLegend21 wrote...
Thane goes through an entire tower of Mercenaries, racing Shepard's team for most kills while they're trying to find him. Oh he's also trying to assasinate one of the most well known business women in the galaxy despite her not doing a thing to him. There's nothing morally wrong about that at all. "an assasin is loyal to their next pay check" it's true, he killed for money. Shepard kills for the military and self defense. The only reason he doens't say that aboutzaeed is because Zaeed is DLC. What you're NOT mentioning that is he looks brokenup about garrus when his mission is done and calls him a "tough sonuva b*tch" when he walks in the debreifing room. He's incredibly kind and respectful to Samara and only gets snippy with Tali because she's rude to him after he's been nothing but kind to her.
Thane seemed to say that he prefers to work quickly/quietly, not the way Shepard does by getting in and shooting every merc in his path. Not sure I buy that he was competing for kills, it seems like where he did kill a merc it was done primarily to protect an innocent (salarians in elevators, one who accounts the exploding head of a merc that threatens them).
In the end, I'm not concerned with Thane's morality here (I have different opinions on him altogether) and my expectations of him are no different than anyone else I'm recruiting: not entitled to my trust but expected to earn it. What I know at that time is that he's agreed to work pro-bono for my team and deserves a chance despite whatever his background is, as a firm believer of innocent-'til-proven-guilty. If Jacob has concerns he can voice them to me privately and I'd have no problem with that. But the comment he makes at the debriefing was completely out-of-line and does no good whatsoever.
Sorry, I'm not awfully impressed with his ability to say "Welcome to the Normandy, ___" or empathize with a friend in critical-condition. Miranda can do that, even if disingeniously. I'm not even sure who's more reliable at it after the whole Thane debacle.
ADLegend21 wrote...
No Teeth? did you miss the part about saving the coucil from batrian terrorists? plus he's the only biotic on the team capable of producing his own protective barrier, and a powerful barrier at that. The only reason he's not able to do the bubbe is because he's a fire team leader and they didn't want to OP him. He's also incredibly accurate witha shotgun, at range. Thane rely's on his reflexes, but Jacbo's biotics would give him the win in a war of attrition.
Supposition. This much we know for certain: Samara/Morinth and Jack are far-and-away the strongest biotics and the only ones capable of holding the barrier. It's not likely Jacob's biotics are close to their levels, he doesn't even have reduced biotic-cooldown if you want to get technical and bring the gameplay into the mix, only Jack/Samara(Morinth) do. I would doubt he's even the third best biotic, Miranda is said to have exceptional biotics by human standards (Jack an outlier).
We're talking about the same Jacob that craps his pants over hacked light-mechs at Lazarus station. You think he could face a much more advanced trained-killer (with his own biotic powers) considered to be the best in the galaxy? You wouldn't sell me on that one.
I'll admit, saving the council is damned impressive. It only leaves me looking at him and thinking, "...you?" because I don't see where Jacob is exceptional in any sense with my own two eyes. And in the end, that's all I really will go off of. You have to prove yourself more than once, that's life.
ADLegend21 wrote...
EDI would stop her. She's got tech to counter the Reapers, she could easily hack and destroy Tali's omnitool if she tried to hack her way into security.
Supposition. For all we know, Tali knows a way around EDI. She could take advantage of Shepard's trust in her and fuxx with the AI Core ahead of time. Who knows.
ADLegend21 wrote...
Does he? I'v enever heard it and I've taken everyone on Jack's LM and seen the youtube vid that has everyone's repsonses in it. even so, Teltin went Rogue. the way they went through subjects would have had TIM shut it down but they with held info from him.
Yeah, it's even in the wikia. Check it out.
Teltin as a rogue cell is crap, I covered that in a post a while ago. "Rogue" is just a cover-up for "got caught." TIM wouldn't have cared what happened there if the results were had.
ADLegend21 wrote...
THIS is possibly the worst "criticism" I've heard in my time on the BSN and I've seen some dumb stuff. a "mans man" is a joke. Letting testosterone control your brain is something you DON'T need in the military during a war, especially a war for the survival of a species. Jacob is intelligent, he knows when and where he's needed, he does his job and does it well, he's not a meathead and looking for stupid fights like a juvenile Krogan (ala Wrex's line "when you're young you go looking for fights, when you get older, you realize the best fights come to you") He's not a rah rah person, he let's his work do the talking. He embraces his emotions instead of putting them off in some machismo fit. Just because he doesn't fit your definition of a "mans man" doens't make him one damn great squadmate that you can count on to do his job the best of his abilities no matter the situation.
Hard to be anything when you're nothing, really. I simply don't see anything that you do with him, and the more I pay attention the less I think of him. I want to like the guy. He's got some good qualities, and a lot of potential to be an outstanding character, but he's loaded with epic-fail that I've recounted since the beginning of our discussion.
If we see it differently, fine, but there's definitely a ton about his character which leaves to be desired.
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