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[FFinfinity1]

I'm trying to create an epic fail-through and i've made all the wrong decisions based on Ecael's Walkthrough and Mesina2's aswell (and some of my own personal choices) but I really don't know what to do for these two decisions.

On one hand if i get them killed in ME2 SM, their gone forever but it would be interesting to see how not opening Grunt will be handled in ME3. Also how giving Cerberus Legion might effect how the game is played. Maybe special Cerberus Geth that only follow them.

I managed to workout  getting Morinth and Kasumi as the only survivors, without having Legion and Grunt using the Suicide Mission Survival Calculator.

To be honest i might just not have them as team mates but i would like to know what anyone else would do in my situation? I might even change my mind and let them live.

If anyone is interested this is my suicide mission setup

Loyal: Morinth,Garrus, Mordin, Jacob, Jack, and Kasumi
Non Loyal: Tali(gave evidence to fleet on mission), Miranda, and Thane
Never Recruited: Grunt and Legion obviously, and will kill Zaeed after SM.

Tech Specialist:Jacob
Fire-team Leader 1: Morinth

Biotic Specialist: Miranda (must be non-loyal i guess)
Fireteam Leader 2: Mordin

No Escort meaning crew and chawkwas dies

Team during Biotic Field/Seeker Swarm Part: Kasumi and Garrus (im not 100% sure why Garrus supposidly dies and not Kasumi even if he was loyal but eh)

Final Squadmates at Boss: Kasumi and Miranda(dies because non-loyal)

In the End i should only have Kasumi and Morinth as survivors with Grunt never opened and Legion sold to Cerberus

Thats going to be an "interesting" ME3 import if you ask me.

[SarunasAndSoOn]

youre going to get yelled at for letting anyone die, but im with you lol, ive made sure everyone died at least once so i can cover all the variables....now im off topic. i say if you can get through the sm without legion and grunt, sell legion and dont open grunt, im pretty sure you can always open grunt after the sm, but legion is a goner.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I think it will be about as good as them dying on the suicide mission, or not recruiting them to begin with. Perhaps with some minor differences here and there.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 03 octobre 2011 - 04:30 .

[Homey C-Dawg]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I think it will be about as good as them dying on the suicide mission, or not recruiting them to begin with. Perhaps with some minor differences here and there.

Agree with this. I'm sure Bioware has "replacement" characters at the ready for every squadmate that doesn't make it into ME3 to fill the same role with only dialog changes.

Leaving Grunt and selling Legion I imagine will be treated as dead squaddies.

[Gabey5]

probably nothing, like people who killed people in me1, they simply never get mentioned

[Sajuro]

the only ramification is that we all know you are a heartless monster for selling legion.

[Bigdoser]

Anyone who sells legion is a monster. Legion is your fanboy with a OP sniper rifle in me2. Who would not want that?

[111987]

I don't know about Grunt, but selling Legion should be HUGE. After all, if Legion is sold, who will stop the Heretics from releasing the virus and forcing ALL Geth to serve the Reapers?

That could possibly lose you the war right there.

[azerSheppard]

Remember how you could play me1 without garrus, and somehow he and shep "remain" buddies in me2? Yeah, don't get your hopes up.

[mineralica]

I think letting Grunt out of tank, then doing his LM right so all Urdnots will see him as powerful and then letting him die on SM will be worse than just not letting him out - Shaman definitely won't be pleased with Shepard. But this may or may not work this way.

Selling Legion is definitely the worst that can happen with them considering Cerberus is going to be an enemy and they just got powerful technology. But this is Cerberus status dependent - maybe in named case Miranda will give you some geth technology from Cerberus... However, for now "selling" is the worst option.

[Homey C-Dawg]

Selling Legion to Cerberus is a bad idea simply because it's Cerberus, and Cerberus screws up almost everything they do.

[Someone With Mass]

mineralica wrote...

I think letting Grunt out of tank, then doing his LM right so all Urdnots will see him as powerful and then letting him die on SM will be worse than just not letting him out - Shaman definitely won't be pleased with Shepard. But this may or may not work this way.

Selling Legion is definitely the worst that can happen with them considering Cerberus is going to be an enemy and they just got powerful technology. But this is Cerberus status dependent - maybe in named case Miranda will give you some geth technology from Cerberus... However, for now "selling" is the worst option.

Not to mention that the reward for Legion is lousy, considering that you can get by without those 50k just fine.

[Preston Watamaniuk]

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

What if you kept him, but never activated  him? Does that simply count as Legion being KIA?

[Homey C-Dawg]

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

Cool. Glad to hear.

Edit: Since we killed or re-wrote the heretic geth, and some of the ME3 screenshots show Shepard fighting geth, you just put some fun theories in my head about where those ME3 ones come from. Ahh the fun of speculation. 

Modifié par Homey C-Dawg, 03 octobre 2011 - 10:49 .

[mineralica]

Lizardviking wrote...

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

What if you kept him, but never activated  him? Does that simply count as Legion being KIA?

What if you activated them (Legion) but didn't go for "house divided" and got Legion killed on SM?

Did Cerberus activate them and did "House divided" on their own?

Did Shepard leave deactivated Legion on ship for entire time, so Alliance took them?

If so, did Alliance activate them when they found him on ship?

Did Cerberus extract some useful technology from Legion?

If so, have they handle it to Shepard or just kept to themselves?

How "true geth" reacted on sold Legion? On KIA Legion? On not activated Legion?
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Too many variables. Too many variables!

[AlexXIV]

I hope there are as many variables in the game as possible which change the ME3 story, if only a bit. There are different things about Legion. You can sell him, you can support him against Tali, you can rewrite the geth, you can destroy the collector base, and last but not least you can chat with him through the whole dialogue options. I think this leaves plenty of options for ME3, especially considering Legion is Geth, meaning the whole Geth civilisation may change depending on Shepard's actions towards Legion.

[laudable11]

What about Morinth? Will she even be a team member? If we dont have Legion who takes his place in mission realated scenes in ME3 that we know about?

Modifié par laudable11, 03 octobre 2011 - 11:29 .

[soulitter]

FFinfinity1 wrote...

I'm trying to create an epic fail-through and i've made all the wrong decisions based on Ecael's Walkthrough and Mesina2's aswell (and some of my own personal choices) but I really don't know what to do for these two decisions.

On one hand if i get them killed in ME2 SM, their gone forever but it would be interesting to see how not opening Grunt will be handled in ME3. Also how giving Cerberus Legion might effect how the game is played. Maybe special Cerberus Geth that only follow them.

I managed to workout  getting Morinth and Kasumi as the only survivors, without having Legion and Grunt using the Suicide Mission Survival Calculator.

To be honest i might just not have them as team mates but i would like to know what anyone else would do in my situation? I might even change my mind and let them live.

If anyone is interested this is my suicide mission setup

Loyal: Morinth,Garrus, Mordin, Jacob, Jack, and Kasumi
Non Loyal: Tali(gave evidence to fleet on mission), Miranda, and Thane
Never Recruited: Grunt and Legion obviously, and will kill Zaeed after SM.

Tech Specialist:Jacob
Fire-team Leader 1: Morinth

Biotic Specialist: Miranda (must be non-loyal i guess)
Fireteam Leader 2: Mordin

No Escort meaning crew and chawkwas dies

Team during Biotic Field/Seeker Swarm Part: Kasumi and Garrus (im not 100% sure why Garrus supposidly dies and not Kasumi even if he was loyal but eh)

Final Squadmates at Boss: Kasumi and Miranda(dies because non-loyal)

In the End i should only have Kasumi and Morinth as survivors with Grunt never opened and Legion sold to Cerberus

Thats going to be an "interesting" ME3 import if you ask me.

Currently im working on this one:
Loyal:Morinth, Garrus,Mordin,Jacob,jack,Kasumi,Thane
Unloyal:Miranda,Tali (gave the data) Zaead dead after SM

Dont upgrade Weapon: Thane dies
Dont upgrade Shield: Kasumi dies since legion isnt activated
Dont upgrade Armor (i think its the name):Jack dies

Tech: Jacob
Fire team 1: Morinth

Biotic; Miranda(unloyal)
Fire team 2 Mordin
Or Kasumi  if Mordin is  unloyal

"Hold the line team": Zaead and Tali - Zaead lives
Note: Zaead is the only to survive even if you have Tali and Mordin unloyal

Escort : Garrus and Morinth - Garrus dies
Last boss: Miranda and Morinth Miranda dies

So Morinth only Zaead(kill him after) and grunt and legion never activated.

Too bad you can save after having "sex" with Morinth would be an awesome ending.
Joker: TiM we have a problem.
TiM: Whats up?
Joker: Shep dead.
TiM: How?
Joker: He couldnt keep his pants.

Note: you can have 1 person to live on your playthrough as long Zaead lives(killing him after) and you bring the other to the boss

[soulitter]

Made a mistake there You cant save after having "sex" with Morinth

[Reever]

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

Although having expected this, I´m still happy to hear an official statement

Lizardviking wrote...

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

What if you kept him, but never activated  him? Does that simply count as Legion being KIA?

And that´s what I´d like to know as well!

[xentar]

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

Aaaand keeping Grunt in the tank?

[shepskisaac]

Preston Watamaniuk wrote...

Selling Legion will be different than having Legion killed on the suicide mission.

It should be a punishement. Who would sell the awesomness of Legion? Even my hardcore Renegade Sheps would never do that!