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staindgrey wrote...

Rather than focusing on nudity (which really opens up a whole can of worms we don't really need), I'd rather them focus on making the romance feel like a romance. There's not enough flirting or minor kissing or anything like that; you can't even tell someone is a love interest except when you talk to them alone at very specific points in the game. And this spans across all Bioware titles.

And in addition to that, there's nearly no social reaction to your choice of LI, save a few minor ones like Wynn noticing your spark for Leliana and warning you, or your mother telling you Isabela kinda sorta is a major ****. There is so much left on the table considering LI's in the greater community: If Hawke is such a celebrity, why is nobody questioning his/her choice in LI (since everyone available is kind of political suicide)? Why doesn't Bioware touch on the topic of sexuality more, rather than make it so everyone's totally cool with whatever? Why does the idea of lineage never come up? If Hawke is the only child left, and decides to be gay, why isn't someone bringing up the fact that if Hawke dies in an ambush, no one's left for the estate and title?

These are all much more beneficial aspects LI's could bring, but they currently don't. Instead, everything points toward a single, poorly animated love scene that's awkward to watch for anybody. Hardly feels satisfying at most points of the game.


^this !!  Well said !

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They should take a lesson from Witcher 2

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gonzalez.melissa53 wrote...

I think Cullen under went some changes in DA2... not just in appearance either. He more confident and seems to have a more tempered ( not sure if that is the write word) world view. He went from this sort of naive blushing templar to hate fill fanatic in DA:O. When we catch up to him in Kirkwall he's so changed. I would love to find out how that came to be. And through out Hawke's story I find that you can sway him into your way of thinking as far as mages not being all bad. I just think he would make an interesting companion. He's going to be all torn and Owww! maybe having lyrium withdraws!!!! Okay, so I'm a little mean XD! But you see where I'm going with this right? Also, hello? He's yummy eye candy!!!


Agree totally. There are some great fanfics that offer plausibel expalnations about what could have happened to Cullen - both Warden and Cullen and Champion and Cullen. Fun reading, nice romances - but i would prefer to see in in the game!

I love the romance aspect - its about the relationships and I think it adds a unique dimension. DAO shone in this area. DA2 - well - not so much - it was kind of shallow IMO

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Though I loved The Witcher's approach, because it fitted the setting. The more toned down DA universe deserves some Mass Effect 1 type love ;-)

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Some people honnestly just wanna see a bit of porn lol

honnestly i think the way they did it in DAO was good, DA2 was weird though heh.

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Well, I'd pay for the Isabella scenes made by CDPR.

j/k it's balanced i guess. DA setting has no time for that. In The Witcher series, there are plenty of time to spend between main events but in DA games, Blight or Meredith can't wait for you to have your own fun. It makes sense. And also, for DA, there is no character like Triss or Yennefer (for the ones know about the books) that tied to the main character.

Modifié par abcicek, 15 octobre 2011 - 01:46 .


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Qunari(the race, not the religion) female.

I don't care what else they do as long as they add in a qunari female.

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Anders was the best romance option EVER for man and woman.

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And I also hope on man like Nicolas from David gaidar's book Calling. He is nice person- funny, strong man, no clishe. Julien was also great, mr Gaidar is really talented author. 

Modifié par ladyofpayne, 17 octobre 2011 - 10:47 .


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Pasquale1234 wrote...

No thanks.

Those scenes are awfully difficult to do, as the animators are constantly struggling with clipping issues and whatnot. I think there are much more important areas where those resources could be allocated - and I'm perfectly content with the romance scenes as they are (although I would like to be able to kiss and / or hug my LI more often).

If you're in need of a nudity fix, you have a plethora of other options.


That's one thing I loved in DA:O, that I could just stop and talk to Alistair and kiss him whenever.

Now I'm stuck with a broody Anders in my estate who won't give my Hawke the freaking time of day .... /sigh.

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Romance screens are never the BWs' strong points.... except ME.

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Post-sex with Fenris was so awkward.


Post sex is always really awkward. I have to find a way to thank and apologize to the girl at the same time.

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PresidentCowboy wrote...

Post-sex with Fenris was so awkward. "It was BETTER THAN ANYTHING I COULD'VE DREAMED."


HAHA That was a pretty funny line ... but Fenris is a bit of a '******.  I like to imagine that he has pretty much zero experience with romance.  As soon as he's literate, he is going to devour Varric's naughty romances, too.

One thing that made that scene awkward is Hawke waking up, only to find a fully dressed and armored Fenris.  Um, Hawke's either a really deep sleeper or Fenris changes clothes like the Sims by whirling around with a happy face.

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bigSarg wrote...

Rather than focusing on nudity (which really opens up a whole can of worms we don't really need), I'd rather them focus on making the romance feel like a romance. There's not enough flirting or minor kissing or anything like that; you can't even tell someone is a love interest except when you talk to them alone at very specific points in the game. And this spans across all Bioware titles.

And in addition to that, there's nearly no social reaction to your choice of LI, save a few minor ones like Wynn noticing your spark for Leliana and warning you, or your mother telling you Isabela kinda sorta is a major ****. There is so much left on the table considering LI's in the greater community: If Hawke is such a celebrity, why is nobody questioning his/her choice in LI (since everyone available is kind of political suicide)? Why doesn't Bioware touch on the topic of sexuality more, rather than make it so everyone's totally cool with whatever? Why does the idea of lineage never come up? If Hawke is the only child left, and decides to be gay, why isn't someone bringing up the fact that if Hawke dies in an ambush, no one's left for the estate and title?

These are all much more beneficial aspects LI's could bring, but they currently don't. Instead, everything points toward a single, poorly animated love scene that's awkward to watch for anybody. Hardly feels satisfying at most points of the game.


What this guy said.
I don't really need nudity to make a game good. I want the story
and the romance to be evenly well made to make the gaming experience amazing.

Modifié par ZombieGerbil, 22 octobre 2011 - 11:03 .


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staindgrey wrote...

 There is so much left on the table considering LI's in the greater community: If Hawke is such a celebrity, why is nobody questioning his/her choice in LI (since everyone available is kind of political suicide)? Why doesn't Bioware touch on the topic of sexuality more, rather than make it so everyone's totally cool with whatever? Why does the idea of lineage never come up? If Hawke is the only child left, and decides to be gay, why isn't someone bringing up the fact that if Hawke dies in an ambush, no one's left for the estate and title?

These are all much more beneficial aspects LI's could bring, but they currently don't. Instead, everything points toward a single, poorly animated love scene that's awkward to watch for anybody. Hardly feels satisfying at most points of the game.


What is left in the table? anyone in that life time would be more bussy trying to figure out who is going to rule kirkwall!! am sure they don't have much time to wonder with who the champion is going to bed with. When mages are going nutes and Meredith is going nuts..

Let me tell you IF my hawke is asked about merril: answer: She is a servant or the one asking the question ends up DEAD! the city has alot of criminals anyway, not one will notes one more dead body.

Asked about Anders..: anders has a key to come inside or out the house without anyone taking notes of it.

Isabela.. everyone knows Isabela no need to ask silly questions. who is next?
Fenris? he already has a mansion, they'll bussy trying to get it away from him.

See, no tele, no top news, not one spying out of the windows with hidden cameras to check "who the champion sleep with", is kirkwall and they still going around in horses. Not one care what you do in bed, they care of who is going to take control of the city and defend them from anyone trying to invade.
Sexuality is not investigated only religion and if you are a mage or not, if you are Andrastian and not a mage you get the +check you can go home and have a "all naked party" not one gives a rat about it, if they tlak is because they are not part of it.

If hawke dies.. one day... not one will care of his titles or who the house is going to, if no one live in if for X years anyone who has the gold willl buy it and will put the amell shield on the garbage and put his own. Yes thats how life works.

Modifié par Huntress, 23 octobre 2011 - 05:52 .


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If Hawke dies Charade inherits a fortune provided the Divine's army does not take it over after s/he abandons Kirkwall.

And gay people do have children. Most noble marriages are arranged for political reasons and procreation and are probably loveless. Anora herself said Cailan had other lovers and she does not flinch when my female Warden told her that her marriage to Alistair was just for show and they were still a couple.

I can see a noble Hawke coming to some kind of arrangement with a political marriage and LI Merrill herself may want to bear a Dalish child with an agreeable partner since any children she has with male Hawke will be an elf-blooded human. Bioware said there are no half-elves in the DA universe.

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And sex is just grinding. Foreplay is where it is at in telling a story revealing something about the character as is the aftermath. I can understand not wanting to give the VG nerds their porn but Bioware should not waste time with detailed love making scenes with people in loincloths. It was silly that Morrigan was less exposed during sex than she was in combat.

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Chun Hei wrote...

If Hawke dies Charade inherits a fortune provided the Divine's army does not take it over after s/he abandons Kirkwall.

And gay people do have children. Most noble marriages are arranged for political reasons and procreation and are probably loveless. Anora herself said Cailan had other lovers and she does not flinch when my female Warden told her that her marriage to Alistair was just for show and they were still a couple.

I can see a noble Hawke coming to some kind of arrangement with a political marriage and LI Merrill herself may want to bear a Dalish child with an agreeable partner since any children she has with male Hawke will be an elf-blooded human. Bioware said there are no half-elves in the DA universe.


If Charade has the gold to pay for the tax of the state she could keep it, still in that time if you don't have the gold or connections you were not one of importance and history books will not name you.. at all.

And family? if hawke is gay he can adopt a child, like the one who Hawke saved from the blood mage.. Cricket! he got adopted by rich family. Like I said, not one care  about who anyone sleep with because they don't even know how long they'll be able to sleep in peace and quite.

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I agree with OP fully, it's so silly that PG-18 (eighteen!) game cannot show a single naked body. It's even more ridiculous when you consider that it has no problems to show buckets of blood (stupidly overdone imho). Make it like Witcher 2 at least, gods that game is mature. Mature! If every 15+ movie has no problem to picture full sex scenes why it is so damn issue in 18+ game?!

Modifié par Arivle, 24 octobre 2011 - 01:59 .


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DA3 should have no romance options and instead involve completely celibate companions.

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Arivle wrote...

I agree with OP fully, it's so silly that PG-18 (eighteen!) game cannot show a single naked body. It's even more ridiculous when you consider that it has no problems to show buckets of blood (stupidly overdone imho). Make it like Witcher 2 at least, gods that game is mature. Mature! If every 15+ movie has no problem to picture full sex scenes why it is so damn issue in 18+ game?!


Ah yes TW2, "you need a bath" = sex scene, the mature human interactions there are astounding, and let's not forget the sex cards from TW1. Clearly those are the epitome of maturity and not simply catering to 15 year old who want to see naked pixels.

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Chun Hei wrote...

I can see a noble Hawke coming to some kind of arrangement with a political marriage and LI Merrill herself may want to bear a Dalish child with an agreeable partner since any children she has with male Hawke will be an elf-blooded human. Bioware said there are no half-elves in the DA universe.



Thats funny. Merrill seems to be very much in love with Hawke despite him being a human. So why would she go out and seek another father for her child just because? And there are half-elves in DA, just see DA2. Also Hawke is a person who doesn´t seem to care what people of Kirkwal think of him anyway so him marrying an elf would be nobodys business than his.

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Mclouvins wrote...

Arivle wrote...

I agree with OP fully, it's so silly that PG-18 (eighteen!) game cannot show a single naked body. It's even more ridiculous when you consider that it has no problems to show buckets of blood (stupidly overdone imho). Make it like Witcher 2 at least, gods that game is mature. Mature! If every 15+ movie has no problem to picture full sex scenes why it is so damn issue in 18+ game?!


Ah yes TW2, "you need a bath" = sex scene, the mature human interactions there are astounding, and let's not forget the sex cards from TW1. Clearly those are the epitome of maturity and not simply catering to 15 year old who want to see naked pixels.



I never seem to be able to understand people who have problem with nudity. What kind of prudes are those who condone excessive violence in games but in the same time some nudity makes them jump out of the window. Some relativity is needed.

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bigSarg wrote...

staindgrey wrote...

Rather than focusing on nudity (which really opens up a whole can of worms we don't really need), I'd rather them focus on making the romance feel like a romance. There's not enough flirting or minor kissing or anything like that; you can't even tell someone is a love interest except when you talk to them alone at very specific points in the game. And this spans across all Bioware titles.

And in addition to that, there's nearly no social reaction to your choice of LI, save a few minor ones like Wynn noticing your spark for Leliana and warning you, or your mother telling you Isabela kinda sorta is a major ****. There is so much left on the table considering LI's in the greater community: If Hawke is such a celebrity, why is nobody questioning his/her choice in LI (since everyone available is kind of political suicide)? Why doesn't Bioware touch on the topic of sexuality more, rather than make it so everyone's totally cool with whatever? Why does the idea of lineage never come up? If Hawke is the only child left, and decides to be gay, why isn't someone bringing up the fact that if Hawke dies in an ambush, no one's left for the estate and title?

These are all much more beneficial aspects LI's could bring, but they currently don't. Instead, everything points toward a single, poorly animated love scene that's awkward to watch for anybody. Hardly feels satisfying at most points of the game.


^this !!  Well said !



I enjoyed BG´s discussion options when it became known that LI was pregnant. It kind of made the situation more "real" having these characters talking about future and how to deal with the situation at hand.

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Ukki wrote...

Chun Hei wrote...

I can see a noble Hawke coming to some kind of arrangement with a political marriage and LI Merrill herself may want to bear a Dalish child with an agreeable partner since any children she has with male Hawke will be an elf-blooded human. Bioware said there are no half-elves in the DA universe.



Thats funny. Merrill seems to be very much in love with Hawke despite him being a human. So why would she go out and seek another father for her child just because? And there are half-elves in DA, just see DA2. Also Hawke is a person who doesn´t seem to care what people of Kirkwal think of him anyway so him marrying an elf would be nobodys business than his.


Not half-elves. They elf-blooded humans. Children born to elf/human couples are human even though they have some elf-similar features. Even an elf-blooded human and an elf having a child would still be a human. I cannot remember what thread I was in when a moderator pointed this out back in the DA:O threads.