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[Cutlass Jack]

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Um...Squall's main personality trait was hiding his emotions.

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
I think that male Shepard is too masculine. But it is just my opinion, I am in a great minority here, nothing in the game is going to change for me alone. I like to play dudes from Final Fantasy. And just in case - I'm straight.

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Male? Badass? Emotion? One of these does not belong.

Whatever. Men can prove their worth and have people respect them for the good they do without holding everything inside them like a ticking time bomb just because that's what's expected of us. I make it a habit to vent a bit to my friends and they still think I'm a cool guy -- I help them out when I can and generally get along great with people.

[JeffZero]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Um...Squall's main personality trait was hiding his emotions.

True that, though he opens up later on. Shepard only opens up when the conversation wheels occasionally decide to let that happen.

[Bekkael]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

D.Kain wrote...
I think that male Shepard is too masculine. But it is just my opinion, I am in a great minority here, nothing in the game is going to change for me alone. I like to play dudes from Final Fantasy. And just in case - I'm straight.

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Male? Badass? Emotion? One of these does not belong.

Er, is it male? J/k!

[ADLegend21]

I agree with Mshep being to masculine. I imagine classes like engineer and adept being LESS bulky, but the models they use for the guys are all ripped. Anderson's ripped, Kaidan's ripped,Joker's ripped, UDINA is ripped. seriously, everyone can't be this ripped in the future.

[KOS-MOS56]

Is it wierd that when I look at this picture I hear "Quade... Start the reactor!"

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Male? Badass? Emotion? One of these does not belong.

It all fits hust fine, expand your horizon. 

What's that? D.Kain did you just say "Emotion"? You did? Correct sir!

I don't even get this. Wrex and Zaeed are badasses but it's not like they're without emotional displays. Granted, it's mostly anger and quick-charged glee but it's still emotion.

[D.Kain]

Cutlass Jack wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Um...Squall's main personality trait was hiding his emotions.

Ok so it's one. I like Cloud more anyway. I also Like Kadaj, Genesis and Ash Crimson ( from kof for example ).

[themonty72]

themonty72 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
I think such threads are made because female gamers in general have a difficult time being acknowleged, and we would like our slice of game preferences to be considered. FemShep sharing animations with MaleShep makes the experience feel less unique, and like FemShep is second class as a character.  Gender stereotypes aren't really a factor for me, it's about equality in gaming, which we are still a long way away from, sadly.

Indeed.

I agree also. Everytime I get my hands on a RPGS I always create a female character. Just because I get a different experience in the game world.

[JeffZero]

D.Kain wrote...

Cutlass Jack wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Cloud? Squall? Ramza? Fei, if we're extending to other strong leads from that era of good JRPGs? Yeah, they're cool.

Yes. They are badass, and exeptionally good looking, they also don't hide their emotions a lot.

Um...Squall's main personality trait was hiding his emotions.

Ok so it's one. I like Cloud more anyway. I also Like Kadaj, Genesis and Ash Crimson ( from kof for example ).

Well now you're losin' me, but that's more because I don't like most of the Compilation of FFVII projects much. 

[Bekkael]

Lucky Thirteen wrote...

I am scarred for life. :unsure:

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

jreezy wrote...

D.Kain wrote...

jreezy wrote...

Male? Badass? Emotion? One of these does not belong.

It all fits hust fine, expand your horizon. 

What's that? D.Kain did you just say "Emotion"? You did? Correct sir!

I don't even get this. Wrex and Zaeed are badasses but it's not like they're without emotional displays. Granted, it's mostly anger and quick-charged glee but it's still emotion.

"That is a joke"

Oh, I thought you were being serious man. I like to think I'm OK at picking up on these things but I don't know you as well as some of the other posters and I'm studying for a test between refreshing. 

[D.Kain]

JeffZero wrote...


Well now you're losin' me, but that's more because I don't like most of the Compilation of FFVII projects much. 

As in you don't know the characters?

[JeffZero]

D.Kain wrote...

JeffZero wrote...


Well now you're losin' me, but that's more because I don't like most of the Compilation of FFVII projects much. 

As in you don't know the characters?

No, as in I've watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core and I wasn't terribly impressed with Kadaj (but moreso I took issue to the movie itself) and while Genesis isn't bad or anything, he's nowhere near the top of my list either and, again, I didn't care for the game much.

[D.Kain]

jreezy wrote...

It's all good. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know actually consider me to be pretty emotional. Manly emotions but still.

Oh my God. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 03 octobre 2011 - 09:51 .

[JeffZero]

jreezy wrote...
It's all good. I'm pretty sure most of the people I know actually consider me to be pretty emotional. Manly emotions but still.

Heheh, me too.

[D.Kain]

JeffZero wrote...

No, as in I've watched Advent Children and played Crisis Core and I wasn't terribly impressed with Kadaj (but moreso I took issue to the movie itself) and while Genesis isn't bad or anything, he's nowhere near the top of my list either and, again, I didn't care for the game much.

Aha. Ok fair enough. 

[Bekkael]

ADLegend21 wrote...

I agree with Mshep being to masculine. I imagine classes like engineer and adept being LESS bulky, but the models they use for the guys are all ripped. Anderson's ripped, Kaidan's ripped,Joker's ripped, UDINA is ripped. seriously, everyone can't be this ripped in the future.

Gene therapy has done away with cellulite?

themonty72 wrote...

I agree also. Everytime I get my hands on a RPGS I always create a female character. Just because I get a different experience in the game world.

Yet many games don't give you the option to play as female...AT ALL. When female PCs become a standard option for all RPG's I will throw confetti. *glares at games like Witcher 2*

Modifié par Bekkael, 03 octobre 2011 - 09:53 .

[themonty72]

jreezy wrote...

Who in their right mind wouldn't want FemShep to be more feminine. She better have womanly animations in ME3.

She don't have to be more feminine just let her walk, sit,run, and cross her arms more feminine . She will always be a bad ass.

[JeffZero]

Bekkael wrote...
Yet many games don't give you the option to play as female...AT ALL. When female PCs become a standard option for all RPG's I will throw confetti. *glares at games like Witcher 2*

Heh. Actual conversation between my girlfriend and I from several months ago:

ME: "Some have said The Witcher 2 handles certain choice-related paths even better than Mass Effect. That sort of entices me."
HER "Have they given better animations to the female version of the lead?"
ME: "Er... about that."

[Lucky Thirteen]

themonty72 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Bekkael wrote...
I think such threads are made because female gamers in general have a difficult time being acknowleged, and we would like our slice of game preferences to be considered. FemShep sharing animations with MaleShep makes the experience feel less unique, and like FemShep is second class as a character.  Gender stereotypes aren't really a factor for me, it's about equality in gaming, which we are still a long way away from, sadly.

Indeed.

I don't see how equality can be formed if gender stereotypes that create inequality are being enforced. 
Female Shepard is one of the most respected women in the Mass Effect universe and I'd argue one of the most out of all heroines in video games, sci-fi, comics, ect. Her capablities is questioned based on gender once by that batarian on archangels recruit mission, and I really don't want to see bulls*** like that again just so other people can somehow "feel connected" to her through something sexist. I get enough of it on a daily bases working in an electronics department, from men and women alike. 

She doesn't need to be a man to gain anything, but she doesn't need to prove she is a woman either. What defines her is her talents and skill. Not how she walks and sits.

Same goes for male Shepard of course.

Modifié par Lucky Thirteen, 03 octobre 2011 - 09:55 .