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[Yakko77]

This is not intended to debate which side was right or wrong or more right or more wrong than the other for the events that led to and the aftermath of the Morning War.  There are plenty of threads for that but what I am wondering is what is known about the Quarian and Geth fleets both of which I think will be instrumental in ME3 depending on how you handle the situation between the two of course.

We know the Quarians have the largest single collection of ships but just how many of them are remotely battle worthy?  I'm talking anything from a converted freighter with a few AA guns to dreadnoughts.  We know they have 3 massive "Liveships" but those are intended for food production and habitation and not combat IIRC but I'm speculating they are armed well enough for defense at the least.  I'm assuming lots of these questions will be answered in ME3 or have I missed something in the Codex or from one of the novels which I haven't read any of?

As for the Geth Fleet, I have a feeling that their fleet secretly rivals the Turians in terms of sheer numbers and brute strength capability or at least has enough to rival it.  Do we know what percentage of the Geth (heretic) Fleet took part at the Battle of the Citadel?  Given their advanced tech and monitoring of organics, is it safe to assume they have copies of stealth frigates or Alliance carriers?

Any info I have overlooked that is confirmed is greatly appreciated and any and all speculation is of course lots of fun as we have little choice until the game comes out in March 2012.... gah, seems so far away.

[Dark_Caduceus]

I think the geth would stop the quarian fleet. I think the Battle of the Citadel contained only like 15% of the geth fleet.

[AlexXIV]

Oh nevermind, obviously I am tired and read it wrong.

Still I think the Geth are stronger than the Quarians. Quarians are very vulnerable, their only strength is programming. Which happens to be the strength of Geth as well, just that the Geth have no larger vulnerabilities.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 04 octobre 2011 - 12:18 .

[Fates end]

The Geth Fleet I imagine would be more battle-worthy, which makes sense, seeing as I doubt they have any non-combat ships. With the proper outfitting, the Quarian fleet would be quite formidable as well. It could be used to transport supplies (and refugees if need be) and if the worst comes, some of its ships could be used as suicide vessels (FTL into enemy ships, after evac'ing the crew, of course.)

I sincerely hope we gain the use of both : P

[111987]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

I think the geth would stop the quarian fleet. I think the Battle of the Citadel contained only like 15% of the geth fleet.

I believe it was 5%, actually.

[Yakko77]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Geth fleet way stronger. Quarians are mostly old ships; talk to Tali. All Geth ships combat-ready, while few Quarian ships are.

Yeah, based on talking to Tali alone I was never overly certain of the odds being anywhere near favorable for the Quarians to be able to take back by force the homeworld.  Their best option would be to FTL some older transports, utilize a decent VI to pilot it (or a suicidal Quarian ) and use them as "fire ships" to crash into Geth cruisers kamikaze style.  Unless Quarian fleet capabilities have been greatly understated through two games I just don't see them having the ship to take back the homeworld let alone have many ships (if any) survive the attempt.  Sending the Quarians to war against the Geth in ME3 (if it's an option as it seems) is IMO a death sentence for them.

[AdmiralCheez]

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

[Dean_the_Young]

NB4 Xen'em.

[Someone With Mass]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Or Finland.

[Someone With Mass]

Anyway, judging by this, we might get the best of both worlds if we play our cards right.

[Sebby]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

NB4 Xen'em.

My pro-Cerberus Talimancer will use his connections to the organization and the Quarian admirality to merge Project Overlord and Rael'Zorah's work. We're going to see Xen and Dr. Gavin Archer working together  to fruther Quarian and Human interests.

[Yakko77]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Probably the best military advice of all time.  Should be in Chapter One at any military academy.

[Yakko77]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Ho ho ho, I remember a certain massive FAIL who did that...

Twice actually.  Once by a certain short French guy and of course the other by a German with funny facial hair.

[Homey C-Dawg]

I'm inclined to defer to Kal'Reegar's assessment...

"If we throw our fleet at the geth all we'll get back it scrap metal"

[Spartanburger]

Homey C-Dawg wrote...

I'm inclined to defer to Kal'Reegar's assessment...

"If we throw our fleet at the geth all we'll get back it scrap metal"

But isn't scrap metal a resource that can be melted down and repurposed?
The Quarians wouldn't even get that back.

[pmac_tk421]

I think the geth fleet of cutting edge warships with AI pilots could take out a fleet of ships that are barely holding together as is.

[Yakko77]

There is mention in a random news report in ME2 of ship profiles that seem to match Rachni ships. Any thoughts on what their fleet strength might be in such a short period of time? There are only a little over 2 years between the events at the very end of ME1 and the Shepard reawakening in the Lazarus Project and ultimately taking out/saving the CB. Part of me wonders if their ships are partly organic in some way given I've never seen or heard of them using weapons.

[Yakko77]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Ho ho ho, I remember a certain massive FAIL who did that...

Twice actually.  Once by a certain short French guy and of course the other by a German with funny facial hair.

What was his name, George Santiago?

"Those who fail to learn from history are condemned to repeat it."

That one is memorable and worth considering but there is also,

"History doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme."  Mark Twain 

[Knight of Bronze]

I think the real problem will be getting the Quarian's to swallow their pride. It's the only thing they have left they are not going to let go of it easily. It's going to take one serious Shep-Speech.

Or the power of the cutseen.

[Han Shot First]

The Geth won the first time when the Quarians were both considerably more numerous and powerful. I see no reason why the Geth wouldn't also win a second war with the Quarians.

The Migrant Fleet is vast but the majority of those ships are obsolete or packed with civilians. Not only would the Geth repulse any Quarian attack, but they would most likely repulse it easily. The Quarians that want to retake their homeworld by force are delusional and would risk the survival of their species on a pipe dream.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 04 octobre 2011 - 01:38 .

[1136342t54_]

Yakko77 wrote...

This is not intended to debate which side was right or wrong or more right or more wrong than the other for the events that led to and the aftermath of the Morning War.  There are plenty of threads for that but what I am wondering is what is known about the Quarian and Geth fleets both of which I think will be instrumental in ME3 depending on how you handle the situation between the two of course.

We know the Quarians have the largest single collection of ships but just how many of them are remotely battle worthy?  I'm talking anything from a converted freighter with a few AA guns to dreadnoughts.  We know they have 3 massive "Liveships" but those are intended for food production and habitation and not combat IIRC but I'm speculating they are armed well enough for defense at the least.  I'm assuming lots of these questions will be answered in ME3 or have I missed something in the Codex or from one of the novels which I haven't read any of?

As for the Geth Fleet, I have a feeling that their fleet secretly rivals the Turians in terms of sheer numbers and brute strength capability or at least has enough to rival it.  Do we know what percentage of the Geth (heretic) Fleet took part at the Battle of the Citadel?  Given their advanced tech and monitoring of organics, is it safe to assume they have copies of stealth frigates or Alliance carriers?

Any info I have overlooked that is confirmed is greatly appreciated and any and all speculation is of course lots of fun as we have little choice until the game comes out in March 2012.... gah, seems so far away.

There is one Geth Fleet one of the planets around Haestrom in which the Geth had a single fleet that range from 5,000-10,000 ships. That is one fleet. They are likely capable of taking on the Council races put together.