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[AnAccountWithNoName]

Well the quarians likely have a battlestar.....so that would help.

[1136342t54_]

AnAccountWithNoName wrote...

Well the quarians likely have a battlestar.....so that would help.

lol even if that was true a regular Mass Effect military Frigate can fight a Battlestar and win.

[Han Shot First]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

It will be a curbstomp in favor of the Geth. Not only do they have much better resource supply (they have monopoly on all that is beyond the Veil), better technology (both the Heretics and the Orthodox have evolved significantly since the Morning War), and they have one huge lopsided advantage in their favor: survivability.

Their ships don't need life support. They don't worry about running out of oxygen or food or water. They can fight on without distraction, hesitation or fear until they are completely broken, and then they can be repaired. Their entire force will fight as a single mind, executing every strategy perfectly down to the last detail.

They also don't need sleep and never fatigue, which would give them an advantage over the Quarians *if* the Quarians managed to get forces groundside on Rannoch.

Of course if the Quarians were to go to war the likelihood of any Quarian stepping foot on Rannoch as anything other than a prisoner, is unlikely.

[capn233]

Geth beat the Quarians handily the first time, and there is no reason to think it wouldn't happen again with a vastly superior number of newer warships vs a dilapidated fleet.

Quarians would need some novel technologies... perhaps if they were able to complete Rael's research and turn it into a way to control them.

[SkittlesKat96]

The Quarians have a strong fleet but the Geth would be able to eliminate them if they wanted to, there is no question about that.

1. The Geth forces that attacked the Citadel with Sovereign were only a small portion of the Geth's armaments and fleet. They were rogue heretic Geth.

2. The Geth are highly efficient at building ships, fighting and piloting ships. They are also methodical because of their nature.

3. The Geth are all fighters. Or at least all capable of fighting. Or maybe not, but I'm pretty sure it is true.

WHY the Geth don't try and attack the Migrant fleet I don't know.

Maybe they truly do want peace or maybe they don't want the casualties or destruction of their fleet, or maybe it has something to do with the whole consensus thing (I haven't done Legion's side quest in a while, weren't the Geth still conflicted as to whether they should have a full scale war?)

However if the Quarians do choose to go to war with the Geth first then they would get the attacking advantage and they would surely develop new technologys and warfare to combat the Geth.

Still though the Geth would win, but it might not be a complete massacre.

Modifié par SkittlesKat96, 04 octobre 2011 - 06:51 .

[Sweawm]

This Topic is pointless. Everyone knows attacking the Geth on their own turf would be impossible. If they have Fleets between 5000 to 10'000 patrolling their border worlds, then what would they have in defense of their core worlds? The Geth Fleets are superior, and probably put together outnumber the Migrant Fleet.
A Geth splinter faction brought the collective galaxy to it's knees in the Battle Of The Citadel. The entire Geth put together would crush any opponent. Attacking the Geth in ME3 is very unwise unless you have a super weapon with you.

[alex90c]

The Quarians would get completely wasted against the Geth.

[Zugin]

Citadel battle went they it did because of the Sovereign, looking at cinematic atleast Geth had no dreadnoughts at all. No dreadnoughts vs Dreadnoughts at citadel would be loss to Geth. Council fleets were also dispersed to blockade relays leading to Geth space which reduced the numbers at the Citadel as well.

[nitefyre410]

Quarian fleet is mostly Junkers and ships that are held together with duct tape, sweat and spit its not a military style fleet with ships built for fighting. They have defense but nothing that is anything remotely capable of hold in a long ship to ship battle.

[Iron Star]

As stated thousands of times, the quarians do have the biggest known fleet in the galaxy. However, it's pretty worthless since every ship they have are filled with civilians etc. The geth have lived beyond the perseius veil (I think it's the perseius veil at least) undisturbed for the last 300 years. No one knows how big a fleet they have, but since we learned somewhere in ME2 that the heretics, aka the geth fleet that punched a huge hole in the citadel forces in ME1, are only a few percent of the total geth "nation". Therefore it's kinda easy to assume that the geth do have the stronger fleet compared to the quarians, even if they don't have as many ships.

[SnowHeart1]

I think it's hard to say. Based on the Codex entries, the Quarian fleet is supposed to be quite a threat, if only through sheer numbers. But, most of those ships are (I assume) lightly armed and probably woefully underarmored (if armored at all). Most of them are civilian by design, which means not much internal armoring or bulkheads to prevent explosive decompression, reinforcement of critical systems, redundancies, etc. Further, the fleet is old, falling apart, with fragile and failing systems.

Agains that, you have the geth. Relatively new ships, compactly built (no need for comfort or "living space"), so far able to repel anything the rest of the galaxy (including the Quarians) has tried to throw at them...

I respect the size of the Quarian fleet, but I'd go with the Geth.

[Zkyire]

111987 wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

I think the geth would stop the quarian fleet. I think the Battle of the Citadel contained only like 15% of the geth fleet.

I believe it was 5%, actually.

Yup, the Heretics represent 5% of the total Geth forces.

[Gabey5]

Geth have more warships and almost unlimited fighters, most of the Quarian fleet is civilian and has no weapons, not to mention the old and scavanged tech

Modifié par Gabey5, 04 octobre 2011 - 03:32 .

[jamesp81]

The Quarian Fleet is in no way a combat-worthy force. It's little more than a defensive huddle composed of whatever thirdhand ships the Quarians could beg, borrow, or steal, a few cast off surplus warships, and probably a small number of 300 year old Quarian military ships.

The Geth Fleet is probably the single strongest fleet in the galaxy in terms of combat power, although the four council race fleets are pretty significant as well.

[jamesp81]

Someone With Mass wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Or Finland.

[jamesp81]

Yakko77 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Ho ho ho, I remember a certain massive FAIL who did that...

Twice actually.  Once by a certain short French guy and of course the other by a German with funny facial hair.

The invasion wasn't launched in winter, and Germany would've won the war if funny facial hair guy had simply taken a vacation from governing while it was going on.  There were several major blunders on Germany's part that, had any one of the not been made, the Soviets would've had no chance to recover and stay in the war.
 

[Yakko77]

jamesp81 wrote...

Yakko77 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Picking a fight with the geth is like launching a land invasion of Russia in the winter. Just don't do it.

Ho ho ho, I remember a certain massive FAIL who did that...

Twice actually.  Once by a certain short French guy and of course the other by a German with funny facial hair.

The invasion wasn't launched in winter, and Germany would've won the war if funny facial hair guy had simply taken a vacation from governing while it was going on.  There were several major blunders on Germany's part that, had any one of the not been made, the Soviets would've had no chance to recover and stay in the war.
 

True.  I guess it should be, don't invade Russia unless you KNOW you can win in less than 6 months and hope a military strategy novice like Stalin is in charge.  Those purges bit him in the butt when the you know what hit the fan in June 1941.  Russians it seems take a morbid pride of sorts in the loses they suffered but still overcame in the end but millions could've lived had the Russians had decent leadership in the first months or even when they were on the march into Germany cared about their troops and didn't have to worry about Stalin shooting them in the back with the NKVD.  Heck, their loses on the first day let alone the first couple weeks while Stalin was in denial makes Pearl Harbor seem like a cake walk by comparison.  Both sides had brutal dictators who cared more for maintaining their power and expanding it than for the lives of their troops.  A often repeated tragedy throughout history I'm afraid.

I don't know if the Quarians have a Stalin or Hitler even with the Geth experiments taken into account but they certainly have some delusional military leaders.

[Sethan_1]

Zugin wrote...

Citadel battle went they it did because of the Sovereign, looking at cinematic atleast Geth had no dreadnoughts at all. No dreadnoughts vs Dreadnoughts at citadel would be loss to Geth. Council fleets were also dispersed to blockade relays leading to Geth space which reduced the numbers at the Citadel as well.

Quantity has a quality all its own.

As to not having dreadnoughts, that would seem to matter less than you might think.  Sovereign never attacked the Destiny Ascension - it was the Geth that nearly destroyed it (and would have, had the Alliance not intervened).  The Destiny Ascension is an Asari Dreadnought that is 4 times the size of the largest Alliance ship, and its weapons are almost as powerful as the rest of the Asari fleet combined... yet the Alliance is required to save it from being destroyed by the Geth.

[F00lishG]

Even Kal Reegar, Quarian Marine, is wary of full scale war with the Geth. They have the numbers, they have the ships, but their immune system will prevent any actual victory.

[F00lishG]

Cthulhu42 wrote...

I believe that Kal'Reegar said that if they threw the fleet at the geth, all they'd get back was scrap metal.

rofl almost at same time XDD

[Zugin]

Sethan_1 wrote...

Zugin wrote...

Citadel battle went they it did because of the Sovereign, looking at cinematic atleast Geth had no dreadnoughts at all. No dreadnoughts vs Dreadnoughts at citadel would be loss to Geth. Council fleets were also dispersed to blockade relays leading to Geth space which reduced the numbers at the Citadel as well.

Quantity has a quality all its own.

As to not having dreadnoughts, that would seem to matter less than you might think.  Sovereign never attacked the Destiny Ascension - it was the Geth that nearly destroyed it (and would have, had the Alliance not intervened).  The Destiny Ascension is an Asari Dreadnought that is 4 times the size of the largest Alliance ship, and its weapons are almost as powerful as the rest of the Asari fleet combined... yet the Alliance is required to save it from being destroyed by the Geth.

Perhaps, but looking at cinematic Sovereign basically punched right through the fleet formation throwing it into complete disarray. If it was a normal formation vs formation action then Dreadnoughts could use their main guns at extreme ranges would haev normal cover from smaller ships etc. That battle was a function of massive surprise (think Pearl Harbor) plus having a far superior dreadnought leading the attack

[Nashiktal]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

I think the geth would stop the quarian fleet. I think the Battle of the Citadel contained only like 15% of the geth fleet.

15%? Those were the heretics and have nothing to do with the geth.