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[Yrkoon]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

I say that if  the creators of the game are still actively  promoting the game  as if it's still current and relevant,  then  there's no reason why the rest of us  should have to pretend it's not and simply "move on", as you put it..

It still makes money, or they wouldn't be doing it.  :lol:

You point!  Invalid!  :P:P

Because that's what  we were talking about in that exchange:  money.  lol


Your reading comprehension is as  sharp as ever, I see 

Modifié par Yrkoon, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:30 .

[Rovay]

And here we go again...

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Yrkoon wrote...

Because that's what  we were talking about in that exchange:  money.  lol

Making money = Relevance.   ^_^

[Yrkoon]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

Because that's what  we were talking about in that exchange:  money.  lol

Making money = Relevance.   ^_^

We weren't talking about money in that exchange.  At all.  So no, it's  not relevant to what we were discussing.

Duh.

EDIT:

Modifié par Yrkoon, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:35 .

[Veex]

There probably wouldn't be a DA:3 if EA was calling the shots, no?

[Dubya75]

Yrkoon wrote...

I too think there's really nothing  of importance to glean from the article, but for discussion sake:

Dubya75 wrote...

 Isn't it time to move on already?

 I don't think so.  But perhaps you should  direct this question to Bioware?  Have they moved on?  Or are they still tirelessly  plugging DA2 with Item packs, DLCs, convention appearances etc....?

I say that if  the creators of the game are still actively  promoting the game  as if it's still current and relevant,  then  there's no reason why the rest of us  should have to pretend it's not and simply "move on", as you put it..

DA2 is current and relevant. It must be, because I enjoy playing it more than any other game, and I buy all their DLC and am very much looking forward to their upcoming DLC.
Dragon Age II is what it is. It is not going to magically change into something else.
So yes, all you naysayers need to move on. The rest of us will enjoy DLC and whatnot for as long as BioWare plan to release content.
Just because YOU don't enjoy DA2 does not mean the rest of us need to put up with your endless whining!
People like you will never see beyond the mistakes they made with DA2 despite them delivering the best Dragon Age DLC EVER called Legacy.
No, you want to complain and complain til the cows come home over things that are past.
Carry on like a child then, why do I even care...

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Yrkoon wrote...

We weren't talking about money in that exchange.  At all.  So no, it's  not relevant to what we were discussing.

Nuuhh uuuuh.  The game is relevent.  Cause it makes money.  Cause when they release DLC, we buy it.

Cause it's a fun game. 

:D:D

Your point, still invalid.  :(

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Dubya75 wrote...
So yes, all you naysayers need to move on. The rest of us will enjoy DLC and whatnot for as long as BioWare plan to release content.

SRSLY!  :)

They should go be miserable some place else.  Any place really, since they endless remakes they desire are never, ever, ever going to happen.

DA2 was a ton of fun and DA3 will be even better!  BioWare will refine the forumal and off we'll all go!  To have fun.

[Yrkoon]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

Yrkoon wrote...

We weren't talking about money in that exchange.  At all.  So no, it's  not relevant to what we were discussing.

Nuuhh uuuuh.  The game is relevent.  Cause it makes money.  Cause when they release DLC, we buy it.

Cause it's a fun game. 

In that case:

Yrkoon wrote...

Dubya75 wrote...

Isn't it time to move on already?

I don't think so.

I say that if the creators of the game are still actively promoting the game as if it's still current and relevant, then there's no reason why the rest of us should have to pretend it's not.

We should continue post here,   bash it, point out its hundreds of flaws etc.

Modifié par Yrkoon, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:47 .

[Stanley Woo]

Hey Rinpoche, Yrkoon, take your petulant peeing contest to private. We don't need it here in the forums.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Edited For Mr Woo!  :)

Modifié par RinpocheSchnozberry, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:49 .

[Rovay]

Dubya75 wrote...

DA2 is current and relevant. It must be, because I enjoy playing it more than any other game, and I buy all their DLC and am very much looking forward to their upcoming DLC.
Dragon Age II is what it is. It is not going to magically change into something else.
So yes, all you naysayers need to move on. The rest of us will enjoy DLC and whatnot for as long as BioWare plan to release content.
Just because YOU don't enjoy DA2 does not mean the rest of us need to put up with your endless whining!
People like you will never see beyond the mistakes they made with DA2 despite them delivering the best Dragon Age DLC EVER called Legacy.
No, you want to complain and complain til the cows come home over things that are past.
Carry on like a child then, why do I even care...

Because deep in your heart you are a good person, who can't stand to watch other people wasting their lives by trying to recreate the past?

[Thalorin1919]

This doesn't make sense considering Inon Zur - the composer for both Origins and DA2 - said that EA was rushing out the game so he didn't have much time to create much music.

This sounds like an attempt at a PR boost to me. Try to wax off the bad paint that has been smeared across EA.

And it would also worry me if EA didn't really have that much power in Bioware. Because that means Bioware whole willingly put out a rushed game.

[Ramus Quaritch]

Thalorin1919 wrote...

This doesn't make sense considering Inon Zur - the composer for both Origins and DA2 - said that EA was rushing out the game so he didn't have much time to create much music.

This sounds like an attempt at a PR boost to me. Try to wax off the bad paint that has been smeared across EA.

And it would also worry me if EA didn't really have that much power in Bioware. Because that means Bioware whole willingly put out a rushed game.

That's why I posted that interview here.  I know that this topic has been done to death, but I think that interview says that Bioware chose to make DA2 the way they did (rushed and all) by themselves and that idea actually troubles me more than the idea of EA rushing the project.

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

we are EA, we're BioWare - we're both

Star Trek borg joke in 3.. 2..

[Thalorin1919]

Ramus Quaritch wrote...

Thalorin1919 wrote...

This doesn't make sense considering Inon Zur - the composer for both Origins and DA2 - said that EA was rushing out the game so he didn't have much time to create much music.

This sounds like an attempt at a PR boost to me. Try to wax off the bad paint that has been smeared across EA.

And it would also worry me if EA didn't really have that much power in Bioware. Because that means Bioware whole willingly put out a rushed game.

That's why I posted that interview here.  I know that this topic has been done to death, but I think that interview says that Bioware chose to make DA2 the way they did (rushed and all) by themselves and that idea actually troubles me more than the idea of EA rushing the project.

Yeah, beat me to it. I saw it on Gameinformer and came here to see if it was posted yet.

Definitely interesting. Either way, lets hope they learned their lesson and will take their time with the next installment. 

[Dubya75]

Rovay wrote...

Dubya75 wrote...

DA2 is current and relevant. It must be, because I enjoy playing it more than any other game, and I buy all their DLC and am very much looking forward to their upcoming DLC.
Dragon Age II is what it is. It is not going to magically change into something else.
So yes, all you naysayers need to move on. The rest of us will enjoy DLC and whatnot for as long as BioWare plan to release content.
Just because YOU don't enjoy DA2 does not mean the rest of us need to put up with your endless whining!
People like you will never see beyond the mistakes they made with DA2 despite them delivering the best Dragon Age DLC EVER called Legacy.
No, you want to complain and complain til the cows come home over things that are past.
Carry on like a child then, why do I even care...

Because deep in your heart you are a good person, who can't stand to watch other people wasting their lives by trying to recreate the past?

Perhaps you are right. 
I just think BioWare has received their fair share of critisism for this game by now.
When I play it, I see a hell of a lot of effort put in by these guys (Dragon Age devs) and it make sme sick to come here just to see hate threads popping up over and over again.

Modifié par Dubya75, 04 octobre 2011 - 06:18 .

[TheJediSaint]

DA2 was a fine game, and I'm still playing it now. The problem is that a lot of people on Bioware social are like comic book fans, they think any kind of change is bad and must be reverted.

[alex90c]

TheJediSaint wrote...

DA2 was a fine game, and I'm still playing it now. The problem is that a lot of people on Bioware social are like comic book fans, they think any kind of change is bad and must be reverted.

Riiiiiight.

And now we go back to the "it was too different from Origins therefore people didn't like it" argument.

Next thing you know you're going to be saying how it was too "innovative" for people on BSN to handle the game.

[AtreiyaN7]

alex90c wrote...

TheJediSaint wrote...

DA2 was a fine game, and I'm still playing it now. The problem is that a lot of people on Bioware social are like comic book fans, they think any kind of change is bad and must be reverted.

Riiiiiight.

And now we go back to the "it was too different from Origins therefore people didn't like it" argument.

Next thing you know you're going to be saying how it was too "innovative" for people on BSN to handle the game.

I'll be here eating popcorn until you or one of these other people starts insulting the intelligence of anyone who actually had the temerity to enjoy DA2.

*grabs some popcorn*

[tmp7704]

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Modifié par Stanley Woo, 04 octobre 2011 - 08:45 .

[TheJediSaint]

I'm a kettle corn guy myself, but I won't say no to your cheesy corn.

*Om Nom Nom*

[Mike_Neel]

I'm curious if DA3 will be released with one title card that says "EABioware" or if EA and Bioware will still have two separate title cards.

Either way games aren't made for gamers anymore. Games are made to product test well and sell a decent amount of preorders than be forgotten while they release some filler DLC in between each title for the few people still playing it. They're made to be profitable but forgettable as well so you're ready to move on to the next game a year later.

They're essentially this generations version of toys. A new product line comes out every year by the same developers with fancy flashy commercials so you feel like your old toys aren't good enough anymore and you have to have the newest ones.

I don't like this new business model of making games for profit instead of making games the devs themselves want to play. But I'm obviously wrong since games have never been as profitable as they are now.

Just to put a "but wait" out there, I don't think Bioware has "corporate'd out" to this level yet. Most of the bioware employees who participate on the forums seem to genuinely enjoy making the games they're making, but I've seen plenty of devs out there losing heart in the industry feeling burned out and being forced to follow an assembly line game production formula.

No one forces Stanley, Laidlaw, John, Dave, or even Chris to participate as much as they do in the forums, but they do. I'm not going to try to think or speak for them, but I assume it's because they like the games they're involved with enough to want to talk to us forum cretins about them. Not a lot of current big name devs do that, at least not the ones that have made a name for themselves as big as Bioware has.

Bioware has some of the best fanbase participation I've seen out there for a mainstream studio which to me shows a real interest in making games they want people to enjoy and have fun with. If they were just interested in marketing and selling games they'd leave that up to the marketing department alone and wouldn't answer so many fan questions and talk back and forth with us.

[The Executioner]

I'm concerned Bioware has alot on it's plate with there new KOTOR MMO and Mass Effect 3 and DA3. That's alot of to juggle hopefully DA3 won't suffer from the work load.