I was going to do an intro, but nah. You get the idea. Put your "main" Shepard in the correct spot too. ME1 and 2 squad members.
Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Legion
Paragade: Samara, Ashley, Liara, Kasumi, Thane
Renegon: Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Wrex, Shepard
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth
Your turn!
Morality of Squad Members
Débuté par
Zakatak757
, oct. 04 2011 03:38
#1
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 03:38
#2
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 05:58
Can't believe it! I was thinking of writing my first OP ever with this same topic the day before yesterday.
Paragon: my canon Shep, Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Legion, ME1 Liara, Samara (in her own opinion), Thane (in his own opinion), Garrus (in his own opinion)
Paragade: Samara (what she actually is), LoTSB Liara, Kasumi, Thane (what he actually is), Mordin (in his own opinion)
Renegon: Ashley, Mordin (what he actually is), Garrus, Miranda, Wrex,
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth,
So I basically agree with you, but I think that Ash is more like Renegon, Liara moved from Paragon to Paragade, and I think some characters wouldn't regard their own morality as you and I do.
Paragon: my canon Shep, Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Legion, ME1 Liara, Samara (in her own opinion), Thane (in his own opinion), Garrus (in his own opinion)
Paragade: Samara (what she actually is), LoTSB Liara, Kasumi, Thane (what he actually is), Mordin (in his own opinion)
Renegon: Ashley, Mordin (what he actually is), Garrus, Miranda, Wrex,
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth,
So I basically agree with you, but I think that Ash is more like Renegon, Liara moved from Paragon to Paragade, and I think some characters wouldn't regard their own morality as you and I do.
Modifié par Negam, 04 octobre 2011 - 05:59 .
#3
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 06:05
Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Jacob,
Paragade: Shepard, Garrus, Liara, Thane, Samara, Kasumi, Mordin
Renegon: Ashley, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth
With my Shepard as his mentor and best friend, he's always seemed like a paragade. Trying to do the right thing but strays off the path every now and then. But he's bound to be confused. I told him to be a spectre in ME1 and took the paragon route in ME2 by sparing Sidonis. I've always told him killing is the best solution when you don;t have any other option.
The rest seem accurate.
Paragade: Shepard, Garrus, Liara, Thane, Samara, Kasumi, Mordin
Renegon: Ashley, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth
With my Shepard as his mentor and best friend, he's always seemed like a paragade. Trying to do the right thing but strays off the path every now and then. But he's bound to be confused. I told him to be a spectre in ME1 and took the paragon route in ME2 by sparing Sidonis. I've always told him killing is the best solution when you don;t have any other option.
The rest seem accurate.
#4
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 06:06
Paracrazyande: Samara
Paragon: Kaidan, Jacob
Paragade: Thane, Legion, Tali,
Renegon: Mordin, Garrus, Wrex, Miranda, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara
Renegade: Jack, Morinth, Zaeed, Grunt, Shepard.
Paragon: Kaidan, Jacob
Paragade: Thane, Legion, Tali,
Renegon: Mordin, Garrus, Wrex, Miranda, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara
Renegade: Jack, Morinth, Zaeed, Grunt, Shepard.
#5
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 07:02
Super-Paragon:
Samara
Paragon:
My Shepard (with somewhat <5% Renegade I couldn't avoide)
Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Mordin
Paragade:
Ashley, Wrex, Garrus, Kasumi, Liara, Thane
Neutral (Consensus)
Legion
Renagon:
Miranda
Renegade:
Zaeed, Jack, Grunt
Super-Renegade:
Morinth
Samara
Paragon:
My Shepard (with somewhat <5% Renegade I couldn't avoide)
Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Mordin
Paragade:
Ashley, Wrex, Garrus, Kasumi, Liara, Thane
Neutral (Consensus)
Legion
Renagon:
Miranda
Renegade:
Zaeed, Jack, Grunt
Super-Renegade:
Morinth
#6
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 07:22
I feel like all of the replies are going to be very similar, so I'm going to add a few more characters! 
Paragon: (My) Canon Shepard, Kaidan, Tali, Anderson, Captain Kirrahe, Nihlus Kal'Reegar, Dr. Chakwas
Paragade: Samara, Ashley, Liara, Thane, Jacob, Feron, Gianna Parasini
Renegon: Garrus, Mordin, Captain Bailey, Rael'Zorah
Renegade: Wrex, Aria, Zaeed, Grunt, Morinth, Jack, Saren, Vasir, Sidonis
Douchebag: Udina
Not quite sure: Kasumi (Paragade?), Miranda (Renegon?), Legion (Renegon?)
Paragon: (My) Canon Shepard, Kaidan, Tali, Anderson, Captain Kirrahe, Nihlus Kal'Reegar, Dr. Chakwas
Paragade: Samara, Ashley, Liara, Thane, Jacob, Feron, Gianna Parasini
Renegon: Garrus, Mordin, Captain Bailey, Rael'Zorah
Renegade: Wrex, Aria, Zaeed, Grunt, Morinth, Jack, Saren, Vasir, Sidonis
Douchebag: Udina
Not quite sure: Kasumi (Paragade?), Miranda (Renegon?), Legion (Renegon?)
#7
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 07:50
lol @ people labeling Mordin as a paragon.
Really shows how people fail to grasp what renegade actually is.
Really shows how people fail to grasp what renegade actually is.
#8
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 09:44
Paragon: Ashley, Kaidan, Legion, Jacob, Liara (ME1), Tali, Kasumi, Thane.
Renegade: Garrus, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Samara, Mordin, Legion, Morinth, Wrex, Zaeed.
I don't mark with "paragade" and "renegon". I'd place Liara into Renegade, though I don't know how they'll shift her character in ME3. Rather keep it where it is in ME1.
Renegade: Garrus, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Samara, Mordin, Legion, Morinth, Wrex, Zaeed.
I don't mark with "paragade" and "renegon". I'd place Liara into Renegade, though I don't know how they'll shift her character in ME3. Rather keep it where it is in ME1.
#9
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 09:55
You missed a category: Stupid. Samara and Morinth fit there perfectly.
#10
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Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 11:27
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Paragon: Nobody
Paragade: Garrus, Tali, Shepard, Samara, Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Thane, Jacob
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Jack, Zaeed, Grunt
Paragade: Garrus, Tali, Shepard, Samara, Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Thane, Jacob
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Jack, Zaeed, Grunt
Modifié par jreezy, 04 octobre 2011 - 11:28 .
#11
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 12:50
The only squaddie I'd say is paragon is maybe Tali. Jacob is definitely not paragon if he's willing to give his father a loaded gun to kill himself (and walk away and don't look back). The fact that he joined cerberus is a renegade move.
#12
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 02:26
Trying to fit the squadmates into categories that only work for Shepard is destined to fail.
#13
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 02:37
I can understand classifying Jack as "Renegade" insofar as having a ruthless attitude in killing. But, in the few times she is opinionated of important things, she doesn't really match up with Renegade Shepard.
-- Against Collector-Base (and Cerberus in general)
-- Questions morality of re-writing geth as brainwashing (half the squad says "just kill them, they're geth")
-- In favor of bringing "Legion" and "Grunt" to ship.
-- Against Collector-Base (and Cerberus in general)
-- Questions morality of re-writing geth as brainwashing (half the squad says "just kill them, they're geth")
-- In favor of bringing "Legion" and "Grunt" to ship.
#14
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 03:22
Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Kasumi, Thane, Jacob
Paragade: Samara, Garrus, Legion
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Liara, Grunt (?), Ashley
Renegade: Jack, Wrex, Zaeed, Morinth
Or another version:
Lawful good: Kaidan, Tali
Neutral good: Thane, Legion, Liara ME1
Chaotic good: Garrus, Jacob, Kasumi
Lawful neutral: Ashley, Samara
True neutral: Grunt
Chaotic neutral: Liara ME2
Lawful evil: Mordin, Miranda
Neutral evil: Wrex, Zaeed
Chaotic evil: Jack, Morinth
Edit: my Shepards? Two canons are chaotic good (Alyson) and Lawful Evil (Ingrid), then lawful good (Mona), neutral good (Angel), true neutral (Mark), one more lawful good (Max), one chaotic idiot (John) and neutral evil (Ashley).
Paragade: Samara, Garrus, Legion
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Liara, Grunt (?), Ashley
Renegade: Jack, Wrex, Zaeed, Morinth
Or another version:
Lawful good: Kaidan, Tali
Neutral good: Thane, Legion, Liara ME1
Chaotic good: Garrus, Jacob, Kasumi
Lawful neutral: Ashley, Samara
True neutral: Grunt
Chaotic neutral: Liara ME2
Lawful evil: Mordin, Miranda
Neutral evil: Wrex, Zaeed
Chaotic evil: Jack, Morinth
Edit: my Shepards? Two canons are chaotic good (Alyson) and Lawful Evil (Ingrid), then lawful good (Mona), neutral good (Angel), true neutral (Mark), one more lawful good (Max), one chaotic idiot (John) and neutral evil (Ashley).
Modifié par mineralica, 04 octobre 2011 - 03:27 .
#15
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 04:12
I would list Thane as more of a paragon since he cares about every innocent person in the universe. Even the ones he doesn't know.
#16
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 04:18
I definitely prefer the chaotic-lawful scale. However I'd put Thane more under lawful evil, maybe sliding towards lawful neutral under Shepard's command.
Edit: And also Legion as true netural.
Edit: And also Legion as true netural.
Modifié par Mims, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:19 .
#17
Posté 04 octobre 2011 - 09:22
BatmanPWNS wrote...
I would list Thane as more of a paragon since he cares about every innocent person in the universe. Even the ones he doesn't know.
He kills without conscience, and does it for money. He is good for the galaxy, but he isn't paragon.
You could say Garrus is a paragon because he only kills the wicked without civilian casualties. This is true, but it doesn't exactly make him an angel. He is ruthless and cold about it. Reading the SB's dossiers shows he killed a gang leader by shooting off all his extremities and burning him alive.





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