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Zakatak757

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I was going to do an intro, but nah. You get the idea. Put your "main" Shepard in the correct spot too. ME1 and 2 squad members.

Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Legion
Paragade: Samara, Ashley, Liara, Kasumi, Thane
Renegon: Mordin, Garrus, Miranda, Wrex, Shepard
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth

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Negam

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Can't believe it! I was thinking of writing my first OP ever with this same topic the day before yesterday.

Paragon: my canon Shep, Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Legion, ME1 Liara, Samara (in her own opinion), Thane (in his own opinion), Garrus (in his own opinion)
Paragade: Samara (what she actually is), LoTSB Liara, Kasumi, Thane (what he actually is), Mordin (in his own opinion)
Renegon: Ashley, Mordin (what he actually is), Garrus, Miranda, Wrex,
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth,

So I basically agree with you, but I think that Ash is more like Renegon, Liara moved from Paragon to Paragade, and I think some characters wouldn't regard their own morality as you and I do.

Modifié par Negam, 04 octobre 2011 - 05:59 .


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darthnick427

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Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Jacob,
Paragade: Shepard, Garrus, Liara, Thane, Samara, Kasumi, Mordin
Renegon: Ashley, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Zaeed, Jack, Grunt, Morinth

With my Shepard as his mentor and best friend, he's always seemed like a paragade. Trying to do the right thing but strays off the path every now and then. But he's bound to be confused. I told him to be a spectre in ME1 and took the paragon route in ME2 by sparing Sidonis. I've always told him killing is the best solution when you don;t have any other option.

The rest seem accurate.

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D.Kain

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Paracrazyande: Samara
Paragon: Kaidan, Jacob
Paragade: Thane, Legion, Tali,
Renegon: Mordin, Garrus, Wrex, Miranda, Ashley, Kasumi, Liara
Renegade: Jack, Morinth, Zaeed, Grunt, Shepard.

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CptData

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Super-Paragon:
Samara

Paragon:
My Shepard (with somewhat <5% Renegade I couldn't avoide)
Tali, Kaidan, Jacob, Mordin

Paragade:
Ashley, Wrex, Garrus, Kasumi, Liara, Thane

Neutral (Consensus)
Legion

Renagon:
Miranda

Renegade:
Zaeed, Jack, Grunt

Super-Renegade:
Morinth

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Mwames

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I feel like all of the replies are going to be very similar, so I'm going to add a few more characters! Posted Image

Paragon: (My) Canon Shepard, Kaidan, Tali, Anderson, Captain Kirrahe, Nihlus Kal'Reegar, Dr. Chakwas
Paragade: Samara, Ashley, Liara, Thane, Jacob, Feron, Gianna Parasini
Renegon: Garrus, Mordin, Captain Bailey, Rael'Zorah
Renegade: Wrex, Aria, Zaeed, Grunt, Morinth, Jack, Saren, Vasir, Sidonis
Douchebag: Udina

Not quite sure: Kasumi (Paragade?), Miranda (Renegon?), Legion (Renegon?)

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lol @ people labeling Mordin as a paragon.
Really shows how people fail to grasp what renegade actually is.

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Dave of Canada

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Paragon: Ashley, Kaidan, Legion, Jacob, Liara (ME1), Tali, Kasumi, Thane.
Renegade: Garrus, Grunt, Miranda, Jack, Samara, Mordin, Legion, Morinth, Wrex, Zaeed.

I don't mark with "paragade" and "renegon". I'd place Liara into Renegade, though I don't know how they'll shift her character in ME3. Rather keep it where it is in ME1.

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brain_damage

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You missed a category: Stupid. Samara and Morinth fit there perfectly.

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Paragon: Nobody
Paragade: Garrus, Tali, Shepard, Samara, Liara, Ashley, Kaidan, Thane, Jacob
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Wrex
Renegade: Jack, Zaeed, Grunt

Modifié par jreezy, 04 octobre 2011 - 11:28 .


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CC-Tron

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The only squaddie I'd say is paragon is maybe Tali. Jacob is definitely not paragon if he's willing to give his father a loaded gun to kill himself  (and walk away and don't look back). The fact that he joined cerberus is a renegade move.

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Xilizhra

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Trying to fit the squadmates into categories that only work for Shepard is destined to fail.

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 I can understand classifying Jack as "Renegade" insofar as having a ruthless attitude in killing. But, in the few times she is opinionated of important things, she doesn't really match up with Renegade Shepard.

-- Against Collector-Base (and Cerberus in general)
-- Questions morality of re-writing geth as brainwashing (half the squad says "just kill them, they're geth")
-- In favor of bringing "Legion" and "Grunt" to ship.

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Paragon: Tali, Kaidan, Kasumi, Thane, Jacob
Paragade: Samara, Garrus, Legion
Renegon: Mordin, Miranda, Liara, Grunt (?), Ashley
Renegade: Jack, Wrex, Zaeed, Morinth

Or another version:

Lawful good: Kaidan, Tali
Neutral good: Thane, Legion, Liara ME1
Chaotic good: Garrus, Jacob, Kasumi
Lawful neutral: Ashley, Samara
True neutral: Grunt
Chaotic neutral: Liara ME2
Lawful evil: Mordin, Miranda
Neutral evil: Wrex, Zaeed
Chaotic evil: Jack, Morinth

Edit: my Shepards? Two canons are chaotic good (Alyson) and Lawful Evil (Ingrid), then lawful good (Mona), neutral good (Angel), true neutral (Mark), one more lawful good (Max), one chaotic idiot (John) and neutral evil (Ashley).

Modifié par mineralica, 04 octobre 2011 - 03:27 .


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BatmanPWNS

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I would list Thane as more of a paragon since he cares about every innocent person in the universe. Even the ones he doesn't know.

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I definitely prefer the chaotic-lawful scale. However I'd put Thane more under lawful evil, maybe sliding towards lawful neutral under Shepard's command.

Edit: And also Legion as true netural.

Modifié par Mims, 04 octobre 2011 - 04:19 .


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Zakatak757

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BatmanPWNS wrote...

I would list Thane as more of a paragon since he cares about every innocent person in the universe. Even the ones he doesn't know.


He kills without conscience, and does it for money. He is good for the galaxy, but he isn't paragon.

You could say Garrus is a paragon because he only kills the wicked without civilian casualties. This is true, but it doesn't exactly make him an angel. He is ruthless and cold about it. Reading the SB's dossiers shows he killed a gang leader by shooting off all his extremities and burning him alive.