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[magelet]

I'd rather not have canon deaths of party members...Unless it's done really well.
I would also rather not have ****fights between romanced peoples.

Maybe not weird "out of character for plot reasons" stuff like in Horizon too.

[Golden Owl]

The things you hope a character will not do:...hmmm:

1.) Kasumi not becoming a full squaddie and not being an LI.
2.) Thane dying
3.) Miranda taking a major role on the Normandy again. (Another XO please)
4.) Legion not developing his dialog line further.
5.) No more high heels, cat suits and half naked squaddies.
6.) Plot deaths.
7.) Enforced permanent squaddies.
8.) Liara or VS having a pivotal role.
9.) Samara hunting Paragon/Paragade Shep.
10.) Not having friendship path dialog again.

[jeweledleah]

Golden Owl wrote...

The things you hope a character will not do:...hmmm:

1.) Kasumi not becoming a full squaddie and not being an LI. paid DLC character taking precedence over shipped game squadmates, LI's included
8.) Liara or VS having a pivotal role. Liara is already a shadow broker and according to bioware, the fiasco ofhorizon was solely to give VS a pivotal role in ME3

when you hope, you hope big huh?  and I thought my hopes were unrealistic....

I'm just hoping for no catfights, for dialogue that doesn't end incalibrations before you could blink,for at least an attempt on internalcharacter consistencyand please god, no more Kashley Wilenko and forced deaths/falling out with characters.

[Xilizhra]

no more Kashley Wilenko

Hasn't that ship already sailed? I hope Bioware learned a lesson about putting two characters in the same role...

[Kaiser Shepard]

Not die, and that goes for pretty much everyone. I want to bear witness to a "real" war, not some PG-rated happy sunshine fantasy.

[Xilizhra]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Not die, and that goes for pretty much everyone. I want to bear witness to a "real" war, not some PG-rated happy sunshine fantasy.

Then kill them. It shouldn't be that hard.

[Labrev]

Morinth being her mom.

[jeweledleah]

Xilizhra wrote...

no more Kashley Wilenko

Hasn't that ship already sailed? I hope Bioware learned a lesson about putting two characters in the same role...

not completely.  they are Kashley Wilenko in ME2, but there's still a chance for ME3 to fix it. hence "no more" which can also be phrased as "not again"

[Xilizhra]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Morinth being her mom.

For a moment, I read that as "Morinth doing her mom."

[Xilizhra]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Not die, and that goes for pretty much everyone. I want to bear witness to a "real" war, not some PG-rated happy sunshine fantasy.

Then kill them. It shouldn't be that hard.

Deliberately killing people is completely different from people dying because it's a war.

Well, if people are saved because Shepard keeps making the right decision, it'd seem that Shepard making the right decision happens too frequently to be realistic, so Shepard screwing up more often would lead to a more realistic outcome.

[Seboist]

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Morinth being her mom.

Replacing Samara with... Samara defeats the whole purpose doesn't it?

[magelet]

Xilizhra wrote...

Hah Yes Reapers wrote...

Morinth being her mom.

For a moment, I read that as "Morinth doing her mom."

Lol. I'll add that to my list of things I hope characters won't do.

[Destroy Raiden_]

Lets see things I do not want a character or shep to do....

Ok let's start with what I agree with that's been said:

Don't want Jack with less clothing or no shirt again, Jack becoming alls fine and happy

Shepard's trial having no significance upon future events within the game. ( Like his death. Everyone tosses a line; Shepard you're supposed to be dead.. And bam, that's all. If you're going to make a ridiculous twist, then at least make it count

LIs being indoctrinated I mean I wouldn't leave my LI in reaper hands for long if they get kidnapped I'm dropping everything to go get them.

~ Harbinger behaving in the same manner as Mass Effect 2.

~ Protheans playing a trivial-role.

Admiral Hackett dying ( For the sake of drama ) or playing an insignificant role. Same goes for Anderson. Captain Anderson is reduced to a sacrificial lamb or Hackett not cool BW.

The Council refusing to acknowledge the Reapers when they're annihilating the population of Earth..

Reapers defeated by conventional, simplistic/predictable or utter unbelievable methods. Also no bacteria did it, or the good prothean who survived 50,000 years did it, or it was a dream you get the idea.

Ok now onto mine:

- Thane gets a magic cure and he lives for 3.
-Tali getting magic cure and can have babies with shep really...
- A prothean or reaper squadmate at all dumbest thing ever.
- Tali pulling an Alister and we can do squat to change her mind before, during, or after she decides to pull a we really shouldn't be together because of my other commitments!
- Past LIs becoming s/s options leave the s/s for brandnew peeps like Vega or that Batarian I hear in the vids.
- Shep not having at least one break down moment (I'm really sick of brick or super hero shep the end of the galaxy will work one over no matter who you are)
- LI not caring if shep gets hacked, goes missing, or nearly dies weather that be on main quest or during a dlc, or sidequest.
- Shep still remaining brick over his/her death they died! Come on!
- Shep still forgetting to ask/demand answers to the Lproject from Miranda and TIM and me not getting my data cache!
- Samara not getting at least ready to murder shep over arrival I'm fairly sure its in the code somewhere blowing up a solar system is a no.
- fshep or (now) mshep going all Mr. T on any crewmen! You ruined Jacob and its all her fault!
- More Miranda fashion in space really BW we don't need it on anyone!
- Anyone showing up in battle without a hardsuit on and anyone not showing up in zero G or in toxic gas w/o proper sealed suit and helmet.
- Us having to be para or ren only to get the uber red ren or blue para prompts were is the love for pragades and renagons?
- Billy not being portrayed and actually acting like the serial killer he should be so far you've placed us with two mad men, that crazy guy with the nuke, and Mornith and you dropped the ball on both if you're going to introduce psychos then do so you don't need to go all saw on us but come on the reenactment on unsolved mysteries does a better job when depicting crazies then those two got!

Modifié par Destroy Raiden , 06 octobre 2011 - 03:11 .

[Golden Owl]

jeweledleah wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

The things you hope a character will not do:...hmmm:

1.) Kasumi not becoming a full squaddie and not being an LI. paid DLC character taking precedence over shipped game squadmates, LI's included
8.) Liara or VS having a pivotal role. Liara is already a shadow broker and according to bioware, the fiasco ofhorizon was solely to give VS a pivotal role in ME3

when you hope, you hope big huh?  and I thought my hopes were unrealistic....

I'm just hoping for no catfights, for dialogue that doesn't end incalibrations before you could blink,for at least an attempt on internalcharacter consistencyand please god, no more Kashley Wilenko and forced deaths/falling out with characters.

1.) BW managed it with DA, so why not ME...plus there's the Grey Box, she has a predefined role already for ME3....BW has already confirmed she plays an ingame role in ME3 also, not as DLC again....Plus there's Vega, as a new squaddie, he has managed to score a substantial role in ME3...So, no, I don't see the 'hope' as so big.

2.) 'Hope' may be too big in regards to Liara and VS...but hope is hope....at least the plot armor comes off....thats something.

[Xilizhra]

I can accept the end of plot armor, but if Liara mandatorily dies, I'll be... highly irked.

[Golden Owl]

Xilizhra wrote...

I can accept the end of plot armor, but if Liara mandatorily dies, I'll be... highly irked.

Mandatory death for any of them would really suck.

[jeweledleah]

Golden Owl wrote...

"snip".

1.) BW managed it with DA, so why not ME...plus there's the Grey Box, she has a predefined role already for ME3....BW has already confirmed she plays an ingame role in ME3 also, not as DLC again....Plus there's Vega, as a new squaddie, he has managed to score a substantial role in ME3...So, no, I don't see the 'hope' as so big.

2.) 'Hope' may be too big in regards to Liara and VS...but hope is hope....at least the plot armor comes off....thats something.

1. what exactly did they manage with DA?  even people who did play ME1 and ME2 not all have Kasumi and if they don't go beyond the games for their info (which is majority of the player base)  they would have no idea what graybox is.  Vega is a completely new character for people who either didn't play ME1 and 2 or maybe have lost any and all ME2 squadmates, so comparing him and Kasumi who doesn't exist for everyone and for those she does exist - she may be dead - not exactly a fair comparison.
2. if by plot armor you mean they can be killed now?  I have no problem with it.  chancesare, this being final instalment - no one will have a plot armor. but if by removing plot armor you mean mandatory death?  no thank you. VS at least already had to go through one mandatory death - which is why its VS instead of Kaidan and Ashley, as it is.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Not die, and that goes for pretty much everyone. I want to bear witness to a "real" war, not some PG-rated happy sunshine fantasy.

Then kill them. It shouldn't be that hard.

Deliberately killing people is completely different from people dying because it's a war.

Well, if people are saved because Shepard keeps making the right decision, it'd seem that Shepard making the right decision happens too frequently to be realistic, so Shepard screwing up more often would lead to a more realistic outcome.

I want people dying, regardless of choice. That even at the best of his ability, Shepard still wouldn't be able to get everyone out alive.

Golden Owl wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I can accept the end of plot armor, but if Liara mandatorily dies, I'll be... highly irked.

Mandatory death for any of them would really suck.

It would be a welcome change, as long as it's done in a significant enough way.

[Xilizhra]

I want people dying, regardless of choice. That even at the best of his ability, Shepard still wouldn't be able to get everyone out alive.

Two million dead on the first day. Six million dead in the first week. (or however that goes)
Yeah, it doesn't seem like you have much to worry about there.

[shepskisaac]

Mostly I'm concerned about 1 thing - indoctrinated squaddies. I'm already sick of this plot device, if I spend half/most of ME3 with my squaddies just to learn "Ha! We were indoctrinated the entire game!" I'm gonna rage RPG-purists-style.

Also, completely unavoidable death of fav squaddie. Even though Ashley & Kaidan kind of had it, you could still save one of them (the more you liked).

[Xilizhra]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I want people dying, regardless of choice. That even at the best of his ability, Shepard still wouldn't be able to get everyone out alive.

Two million dead on the first day. Six million dead in the first week. (or however that goes)
Yeah, it doesn't seem like you have much to worry about there.

People that Shep is familiar with, meaning probably squadmates. Not the faceless crowd.

Oh, so you only care about important people dying?
Eh. My Shepard will still feel bad about how many other deaths she was unable to prevent. I'll get the meaning regardless.

[Kaiser Shepard]

Xilizhra wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I want people dying, regardless of choice. That even at the best of his ability, Shepard still wouldn't be able to get everyone out alive.

Two million dead on the first day. Six million dead in the first week. (or however that goes)
Yeah, it doesn't seem like you have much to worry about there.

People that Shep is familiar with, meaning probably squadmates. Not the faceless crowd.

Oh, so you only care about important people dying?
Eh. My Shepard will still feel bad about how many other deaths she was unable to prevent. I'll get the meaning regardless.

It's shouldn't just be the squaddies, but they shouldn't all get through without any injuries or anything either.

Choices between those same squaddies and larger groups of civilians would also be nice...

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 06 octobre 2011 - 04:03 .