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[Victorita9]

Right before the first 3 year time skip Isabela heavily flirts with Hawke, but the player cannot initiate anything. Then after the three year time skip it's super easy to bed isabela. In the dragon age universe what would have prevented Isabela from trying to sleep with hawke during the time skip?

[Knight of Dane]

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[Victorita9]

you know i could see that.

[whykikyouwhy]

I think this is where Isabela would still be trying to assess Hawke from afar. They've adventured together, shared some laughs and thrills, and maybe, just maybe, there's a bit of attraction that goes beyond her usual criteria for finding and claiming a lover - there may be some admiration, or the stirrings of something beyond the physical and Isabela isn't going to immediately embrace that. So she may not engage in any seduction on purpose.

(Maybe this is all head canon though.)

The other way to look at it is that in the 3 years between Acts 1 and 2, Hawke is busy getting her life in order -acquiring the estate, moving out of Lowtown, etc. She might be difficult to pin down.

[Mr.House]

I just head canon they already where having sex, nothing in the dialog confirms this was there first time, well for me anyways so no issues there. Fiona pretty much stayed in Izzys room.

[jlb524]

Some headcanon it that they did sleep together (and the scene you see at the estate was just their first time at the estate).  ^^ like Mr. House (just saw this post)

Isabela was also quite busy searching for leads regarding her missing 'relic' so she might have been gone a lot.

Modifié par jlb524, 05 octobre 2011 - 01:25 .

[DrFumb1ezX]

I always pictured Hawke as super-busy getting the estate for mother, perhaps not trying to think about just how badly they just f*cked up with their sibling, who either got Wardened, Chantried, or died.
Plus, Isabela was probably searching for clues to the relic the whole time.
And annoying Aveline.

[whykikyouwhy]

jlb524 wrote...

Some headcanon it that they did sleep together (and the scene you see at the estate was just their first time at the estate).  ^^ like Mr. House (just saw this post)

Isabela was also quite busy searching for leads regarding her missing 'relic' so she might have been gone a lot.

I could see christening the canopied bed and all, but that implies that if they were having sex prior to act 2, at no point did Hawke start to ask some questions about matters of love. And this may be back to the dueling head cannons, but most of my Hawkes would have wanted to get to know the person they were rolling on the straw mattress with.

Unless of course the key word here is "love", from that post-coital on-screen conversation - that it's only after several pleasurable evenings that Hawke gets up the nerve to approach her own feelings from an angle, and thus the act 2 romp is not about the sex being the first, but about the conversation.

Modifié par whykikyouwhy, 05 octobre 2011 - 01:34 .

[jlb524]

whykikyouwhy wrote...
I could see christening the canopied bed and all, but that implies that if they were having sex prior to act 2, at no point did Hawke start to ask some questions about matters of love. And this may be back to the dueling head cannons, but most of my Hawkes would have wanted to get to know the person they were rolling on the straw mattress with.

Unless of course the key word here is "love", from that post-coital on-screen conversation - that it's only after several pleasurable evenings that Hawke gets up the nerve to approach her own feelings from an angle, and thus the act 2 romp is not about the sex being the first, but about the conversation.

Yeah, that interpretation depends on Hawke.  If Hawke pulls a 'Merrill' and blurts out 'I love you' right after you have sex for the first time... nah...wouldn't work. 

[TEWR]

There are a few valid scenarios that could explain it that I can think of:

• They were already sleeping together during those 3 years
• Hawke and/or Isabela was playing hard to get
• They had been flirting with each other constantly, but stayed friends. I have a friendship with a girl that is like this. We're both flirty by nature and we've known each other for years (and indeed we flirted with one another when we first met) but nothing's ever really come of it. Though I can't really speak for what the future holds.

Me? I'm inclined to believe the third one.

[Mr.House]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There are a few valid scenarios that could explain it that I can think of:

• They were already sleeping together during those 3 years
• Hawke and/or Isabela was playing hard to get
• They had been flirting with each other constantly, but stayed friends. I have a friendship with a girl that is like this. We're both flirty by nature and we've known each other for years (and indeed we flirted with one another when we first met) but nothing's ever really come of it. Though I can't really speak for what the future holds.

Me? I'm inclined to believe the third one.

[*]But the first one happen in my case yo

[whykikyouwhy]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There are a few valid scenarios that could explain it that I can think of:

• They were already sleeping together during those 3 years
  
• Hawke and/or Isabela was playing hard to get
  
• They had been flirting with each other constantly, but stayed friends. I have a friendship with a girl that is like this. We're both flirty by nature and we've known each other for years (and indeed we flirted with one another when we first met) but nothing's ever really come of it. Though I can't really speak for what the future holds.

Me? I'm inclined to believe the third one.

[*]But the first one happen in my case yo

So now I want Varric to narrate all 3 scenarios, but to make the first one extra saucy, just for Mr. House's sake.

[Mr.House]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There are a few valid scenarios that could explain it that I can think of:

• They were already sleeping together during those 3 years
  
• Hawke and/or Isabela was playing hard to get
  
• They had been flirting with each other constantly, but stayed friends. I have a friendship with a girl that is like this. We're both flirty by nature and we've known each other for years (and indeed we flirted with one another when we first met) but nothing's ever really come of it. Though I can't really speak for what the future holds.

Me? I'm inclined to believe the third one.

[*]But the first one happen in my case yo

So now I want Varric to narrate all 3 scenarios, but to make the first one extra saucy, just for Mr. House's sake. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Mr.House, 05 octobre 2011 - 01:44 .

[Lenimph]

In my headcanon its because Isabela was still trying to decide if she wanted Hawke or Bethany...

[TEWR]

Mr.House wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

There are a few valid scenarios that could explain it that I can think of:

• They were already sleeping together during those 3 years
  
• Hawke and/or Isabela was playing hard to get
  
• They had been flirting with each other constantly, but stayed friends. I have a friendship with a girl that is like this. We're both flirty by nature and we've known each other for years (and indeed we flirted with one another when we first met) but nothing's ever really come of it. Though I can't really speak for what the future holds.

Me? I'm inclined to believe the third one.

But the first one happen in my case yo

I can just see Hawke having hot, raunchy angry sex with Isabela to get rid of all that anger from what happened to the sibling

whykikyouwhy wrote...

So now I want Varric to narrate all 3 scenarios, but to make the first one extra saucy, just for Mr. House's sake.

I would like to say that I approve.

[whykikyouwhy]

Lenimph wrote...

In my headcanon its because Isabela was still trying to decide if she wanted Hawke or Bethany...

But in your head canon, did something occur with the latter?

[jlb524]

Lenimph wrote...

In my headcanon its because Isabela was still trying to decide if she wanted Hawke or Bethany...

Why wouldn't she go for both?

*not at the same time, of course*

[Mr.House]

jlb524 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...

In my headcanon its because Isabela was still trying to decide if she wanted Hawke or Bethany...

Why wouldn't she go for both?

*not at the same time, of course*

[Lenimph]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

But in your head canon, did something occur with the latter?

Yes 

Edit:
It's why Bethany accidently calls her "Bela" once. 

Modifié par Lenimph, 05 octobre 2011 - 02:07 .

[mousestalker]

The great Kirkwall cheese shortage of course. Practically all romances were on hold in the Free Marches because of a catastrophic lack of cheese wheels.

Sheesh.

[hoorayforicecream]

whykikyouwhy wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Some headcanon it that they did sleep together (and the scene you see at the estate was just their first time at the estate).  ^^ like Mr. House (just saw this post)

Isabela was also quite busy searching for leads regarding her missing 'relic' so she might have been gone a lot.

I could see christening the canopied bed and all, but that implies that if they were having sex prior to act 2, at no point did Hawke start to ask some questions about matters of love. And this may be back to the dueling head cannons, but most of my Hawkes would have wanted to get to know the person they were rolling on the straw mattress with.

Unless of course the key word here is "love", from that post-coital on-screen conversation - that it's only after several pleasurable evenings that Hawke gets up the nerve to approach her own feelings from an angle, and thus the act 2 romp is not about the sex being the first, but about the conversation.

From the contextual clues in the dialogue, this is what I know happened:

1. Isabela was visiting Hawke's Estate for the first time when they knock boots on camera ("So this is where you live. Not bad.")
2. It is apparently the first time that Hawke's brought up feelings (hence the conversation)

It's entirely possible that they had been sampling each others' sushi before then, and it was only when Hawke had finally settled into her new home that she thought it would be a good time to bring up the feelings. It's also entirely reasonable that the two had been busy, just friends, or possibly just too busy up to that point. I've had relationships with folks I knew for a while, but never got into until the right set of circumstances.

In the fanfic I wrote, it was the first time the two got together, because Isabela's primary focus was still the relic and she had other lovers in the meantime. Circumstances pushed her toward Hawke while she searched for the relic, she followed them, and then ended up in a relationship that evolved far past their initial 'friends with benefits' relationship.