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Dark Souls...how is it?


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gammameggon

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This game obviously has my attention and has been on my radar, just like Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I will get around to playing DE: HR, but now I want to know about Dark Souls. How is it? How's quality? How's the UI, loot and inventory systems? How is level design and music? Is it massive and expansive with branching paths, or very linear?

Worth a purchase?

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GodWood

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This thread is relevent to my interests.

So far the only reviews I've seen are these:
GameSpot Review
IGN Review

Modifié par GodWood, 05 octobre 2011 - 03:02 .


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For more reviews, why not go to Metacritic? They have links for each full review there. At this moment, I see over 20 reviews for the Xbox 360 at an average overall score of 90/100.

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Chromie

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Better than Skyrim...!

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DeathDragon185

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better then Oblivion.
and it's not as hard as people say it is

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gammameggon

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Ringo12 wrote...

Better than Skyrim...!


For now...not when my pure Argonian mage is dungeon crawling with detect life in one hand and summon icewraith in another.

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DeathDragon185 wrote...


and it's not as hard as people say it is


neither was Demons Souls. Only noobs and casual flinched at how "punishing" it supposedly was. 

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Gorthaur the Cruel

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Besides a lot of soul grinding, it's not that bad.

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SOLID_EVEREST

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Sounds almost exactly like Demon's Souls with a more improved world (I didn't like the hub either). Anyways, I remembered all the soul grinding madness; although, it was still fun because the first level was the best level.

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Ringo12 wrote...

Better than Skyrim...!



Depends on what you like really, this has no real character interaction, story or decision making, so in that regard obviously Skyrim will be better, combat can be debated, and the world, well we will have to see what Skyrim's like when it comes out to judge.

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It’s a great game, but if you get frustrated quickly you might want to pass. The game kind of has the feel of an old style videogame where you can't save every five seconds and it actually has challenge. If you love games with a challenge you probably will like this one. Combat in my opinion is great. If not buy, then try.

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MarchWaltz

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Is there a true coop system? Like, can I invite my buddy and we can play the game together at all times without one person being dead and another being alive or whatever. On the xbox, by the way.

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No, there's no servers on either version so it's not like everyone who connects to a specific point are viewable in your game.

And on the 360, if you are in an Xbox Live Party, you'll still be logged in, but the game itself won't be considered 'online'.


IceStorm wrote...

It’s a great game, but if you get frustrated quickly you might want to pass. The game kind of has the feel of an old style videogame where you can't save every five seconds and it actually has challenge. If you love games with a challenge you probably will like this one. Combat in my opinion is great. If not buy, then try.


Except, the game automatically saves whenever you do anything and you can recover all you've lost if you die and happen to get back to where you died.

Yesterday I watched a live stream to see what I was getting myself into, I'm still waiting on my copy which I just ordered 2 days ago, and it looks like I will be able to find ways to circumvent the difficulty.

So, at least you can do something about it. I also noticed, in addition to the bonuses of choosing a specific stat, every single defense stat is increased by 1 when you level up. So, I'm not AS concerned with trying to raise VIT as I was before.

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I have mixed feelings on this game.  I think it's a good game that I kind of like but not all that much.

If anything, Dark Souls reminds me of an old arcade game or an old NES game with the scale of a modern game.  What do I mean?  Well, old games involved a lot of repetition.  You play for a while and clear some stuff, and you die.  And then re-clear all that crap again to get to the point you died at for another chance.  

That's just the way games were.  They were cartridges so they needed the repetition to make the games last longer.  And arcade games needed limited lives to make you spend more quarters.  I never thought it cool though.  As soon as save-your-progress RPG's came out, that was pretty much it for other genres.  I don't mind a challenge.  But I like to get directly to it and not have to reclear stuff again to get back to what gave me problems.

In Dark Souls I feel like I have to reclear crap pretty often.  And so it reminds me of an old game in a bad way.  Now I'm not saying there should be a save-anywhere option.  I think that would destroy the game as it seems to be attrition-based.  But I don't attrition-based challenges either.  I like to regen health between battles and for every battle to be balanced on that assumption.

So I don't think Dark Souls is bad so much as it isn't to my tastes.  It's definitely "old school".  Is it hard?  Eh, kind of.  Sometimes it is.  But you can figure it out.  Is it punishing?  Not really.  So you lose some souls or humanity.  Whoopty-doo.  It isn't any big deal.  It's nothing to stress over.

So I kind of feel drawn to revisit the game.  But not entirely sure it's worth it.  If anything, it's reinforced what I decided I didn't like about 8-bit era gaming: reclearing content.

So, on that note, Skyrim just can't get here fast enough.

Modifié par Giltspur, 07 octobre 2011 - 10:09 .


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Yeah, I look forward to Skyrim myself.

But I'm having fun. I am on my 5th character, well technically second where I'm actually seriously playing. First three was to check some things out.

I am level 16 now with my Warrior and this is the game where losing a lot of progress will really ****** me off. But at least I'm smart enough to know I shouldn't go into the unknown while holding on to a large number of souls.

Also, there's some places you can grind when you get further, but it takes a while to get there. Especially if you're like me and it's somewhat luck as to whether I can get past something.

I know I have to kill the Taurus Demon to do what I want to do, but I'm just nervous. That's because I killed it with my Thief and then got the Drake Sword and went back to the previous bonfire. Then I tried to fight the Boar and I do it, but I die before I can get to what I thought was the next bonfire because I ran out of flasks.

Though this time, I have received a total of 4 Humanity and I used two of it to kindle the current fire I'm at, so I'm more prepared now than I was before.

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From what I've played so far it seems like a good challenge, a great way to wait for ME3 and Kingdoms of Amalur.

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gammameggon

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Thanks guys and gals for taking the time to give me feedback. I'm sure it'll be a legitimate challenge but nothing that's too difficult for me. An actual challenge is refreshing.

How long is one playthrough looking?

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gammameggon wrote...

Thanks guys and gals for taking the time to give me feedback. I'm sure it'll be a legitimate challenge but nothing that's too difficult for me. An actual challenge is refreshing.

How long is one playthrough looking?


Depends on how much you die.:devil:

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gammameggon wrote...

Thanks guys and gals for taking the time to give me feedback. I'm sure it'll be a legitimate challenge but nothing that's too difficult for me. An actual challenge is refreshing.

How long is one playthrough looking?


i am level 66, 35 hours in and maybe 2/3 of the way through the game

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Yeah, depends on how much you die and how much you grind.

I need higher stats to get through stuff, the longer a battle takes, the more I mess up and it doesn't take long before I start messing up, maybe 5 minutes in for a boss and most bosses take more time than that.

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gammameggon wrote...
pure Argonian mage


Never change, 'Gon.

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Is it harder than TW2 dark mode?

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slimgrin wrote...

Is it harder than TW2 dark mode?


Yes it is. Dark Souls requires a lot more patience.

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I finally got around to picking this up and I swear the game punked me. I've often said one of the main things that really makes an RPG for me is Full character creation. And Dark Souls surprisingly delivered, with a robust amount of character customization options. Well if you're willing to dig to find all the controls, which are buried deep and non-intuitive.

I spent a good hour or so in the creator trying all sorts of things, until finally settling on a version of me that looks fairly close to my avatar face. So of course I finally get in the game to learn I'll spend the majority of my time with my skin flayed off. The frequent death rate combined with the infrequent humanity gains pretty much insures I won't be seeing my face much. 

I must admit they got me pretty good there. Bastages.Image IPB

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I just started a new character.

I was unhappy with my last and just today admitted it to myself. Any body type other than Slim or Very Slim for a female character I realized looks horrible. I also wanted to change my class.

If I could compare it to something: I'd say it's like NInja Gaiden II on Mentor or Master Ninja, but you have limited stamina to perform actions. Although there is one difference: you can actually try and pull enemies one at a time.