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C9316 wrote...

What class are you? If you're a sorcerer like me it is pretty hard.


Wanderer. I'm just lacking the room to really maneuver. And the dogs have an uncanny ability to mess up my moves. Has to be even worse as a sorcerer. So I give you credit.

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The best advice I can give is make sure you kill the dogs first. Once they are dead run up the stairs sometimes the Capra demon will remain down the stairs and you can throw firebombs/soul arrows at him. Oh and don't lock on to anyone until after the dogs are dead as well. I can't tell you how many times I died just because I locked on and started rolling in the capra...

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Yeah the dogs pissed me off too, I would try to rollpast them and the capra demo so I could get a safe distance, but the damn dogs ambuse me, I cant move and the Capra would finish me off. Although I eventially beat him, the hardest boss for me during my demo run. Thankfully his health isn't hard to take down. I was a Wanderer too.

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Capra demon is 95% luck, honestly. I banged my head against that particular wall about twenty'ish times, and then suddenly the twenty-first time went off without a hitch. If you have high Endurance or Vitality, block his first attack and then immediately make it up the stairs before hanging a right to the crumbling platform. If you can't avoid that first attack by blocking, try and roll through it and get to the stairs - either way, the stairs are a big part of this fight. It's tough, and that's primarily because the room is really not suited for the fight. Things get a -lot- less frustrating after him, though.

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Capra Demon wasn't too hard, but I've been playing this since Demon's Souls (I think it is 10x's harder than Dark Souls). Anyways, the hardest boss I've fought so far was probably the Bell Tower Guard since I didn't know that you could summon that sun guy. Actually, take that back, I think the hardest thing I've fought was the headless titanite demon. I can't seem to kill that thing. I was SL: 40 and finished ringing the second bell, but I had to restart. Tried to play PVP, but got my *** handed to me four times. I think my problem is I level too fast and my equpiment doesn't catch up. This time I'm going to try to level slower and improve my equipment faster. I love the faith spells so far, though.

I hate how equipment dependent those online matches are. My equipment always handicaps me; I remember I used to run around with a non leveled halberd in Demon's Souls and always got 1 hit killed by someone with a leveled meat cleaver or something.

Oh yeah, and Queelag was easier than I thought. I had like 1 estus flask that I was left with from trying to run through blighttown.

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Wait til you fight Ornstein and Smough.  Even before I duped, I was
leveled higher than most people, 958 HP with the Ring of Favor and
Protection, 133 Equip Load with the previous and Havel's Ring...  And
they trampled me every time I tried to fight them by myself.



Then I said, to hell with it, and summoned someone with a gold soul sign
because I figured if someone is in one of the co-op covenants, they
must be my best bet to make sure Ornstein didn't die before Smough.



The guy was very helpful too, kept Ornstein busy while I wailed on
Smough and he didn't even attack Ornstein.  He also let me get the final
blow on Ornstein during the second half of the fight.  I was with my
Black Knight Sword +4 so I was taking out a lot of their health with
each swing.  It was just a matter of getting the two away from each
other.



Ornstein would attack through Smough and hit me, that's how long his spear is.


C9316 wrote...

Guys! I just beat the Capra demon! W00T! Oh and which is better the heavy soul arrow or the great soul arrow?


Great
Soul Arrow should be better because there's also a Great Heavy Soul
Arrow.  I haven't tested them out even though I've duped 20 million
souls, for test purposes and just because I want to get all the trophies
at a reasonable rate.  You need over 100k souls to buy all the spells.  It also takes a lot of money to level up weapons if you don't want to rely on lucky drops.

Back to what I was saying: with those 20 million I bought 99 titanite and large titanite shards to prepare weapons for Boss Soul upgrades.  And I also bought all the spells I could.  Of which, I luckily didn't miss any from merchants.

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The Earl Of Bronze wrote...



Are
both strength and dexterity required for higher level weapons? Only
been spending points in strength, endurance and vitality so far.




Don't
put too many points into Strength/Dexterity. Weapons scale
significantly less with those stats than in Demon's Souls - once you get
to about 20 with both, you can equip most of the weapons out there. If
you want to 1-hand a 2-handed weapon, of course, feel free to keep
pumping Strength, but otherwise Endurance and Vitality are better
choices.




Yeah, after 40 each stat has gains every 2-3
increases, from 40-99 of STR/DEX/INT/Faith you only get an increase of
about 20 no matter what the scaling rank is.



Resistance is
futile.  No, seriously, after a certain level your defense gains are
negligible and if you put points into resistance, you get to that point
earlier than if you left the stat alone.

The only stat that doesn't have diminishing returns is Equip Load, it always goes up by 1 point per point of Endurance.  And the only reason to get Faith and Intelligence to 50 is if you want to be able to equip any of the spells you can find for Sorcery and Miracles.  Oh, and 50 STR to be able to one hand every weapon.  More HP actually helps out quite a bit, so getting Vitality to 99 can be helpful.

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I just beat the game a while ago, and overall it was really good, the bosses were spectacular, and the area's were very unique. The only things about Dark Souls I didn't like were the ending, and the multiplayer.

The ending felt lacking, and short, to say the least. And the multiplayer was just annoying, I don't know how many times I've read 'Failed Summoning' but after a while it got really irritating. I'd still recommend the game to anyone looking for something challenging, and unique.

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JohnEpler wrote...

Capra demon is 95% luck, honestly. I banged my head against that particular wall about twenty'ish times, and then suddenly the twenty-first time went off without a hitch. If you have high Endurance or Vitality, block his first attack and then immediately make it up the stairs before hanging a right to the crumbling platform. If you can't avoid that first attack by blocking, try and roll through it and get to the stairs - either way, the stairs are a big part of this fight. It's tough, and that's primarily because the room is really not suited for the fight. Things get a -lot- less frustrating after him, though.


I think the luck assessment is correct. Finally got it on my thirty somethingish try and the time it happened I didn't even need to use a single health flask. The stars finally lined up in my favor. And the demon was nice enough to continually stand in the right spot for me to leap attack him after the dogs died.

At least the damn thing is finally dead. Of course I died again to some butcher shortly after that. But I can blame being tired and unfocused on that one.
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Yeah, the Capra Demon is pretty much luck. I killed it my second time, first time just got beat down quick, but the second time I almost died, it was nerve inducing.

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Havel was the worst fight for me: I think it took me about 20 attempts before he finally died (totally worth it for that ring).

Yesterday I went back to the Undead Asylum and I got the Rusted Iron Ring, I don't know if I should go face the Hydra or continue to the Depths...uhm... maybe I should grind some souls and try to create a divine weapon with the amber I got from the Butterfly boss..

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Started a new game, playing as the Deprived this time, going for a warrior type build. Got to the Taurus demon, killed it first time, not moving slowly makes the fight a lot easier. Hit him with 2 plunging attacks was heading for the ladders for the third when he fell off the bridge. Did he drop any good loot?

Now onto the Dragon.

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The Earl Of Bronze wrote...

Started a new game, playing as the Deprived this time, going for a warrior type build. Got to the Taurus demon, killed it first time, not moving slowly makes the fight a lot easier. Hit him with 2 plunging attacks was heading for the ladders for the third when he fell off the bridge. Did he drop any good loot?

Now onto the Dragon.


just his axe i think and its not that good. Gargoyle halberd is better for starters(or Drake sword)
Or you could get a very powerfull 2 handed mace fort the tutorial boss(needs 46 STR too 1 hand)
But you must kill it the first moment you met with it. You can try with bare hands or you can take Black bombs as gift.
But you will miss the master key like this...

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Wait til you get to Priscilla's room.  There's a reason you can see footprints in the snow.. 


The insane **** killed me two times!!! Third time was the charm I guess and I slew her and sent her on her way to Hell (or whatever Dark Souls' equalivent of Hell is).

I decided to tackle the undead dragon afterwards headfirst...I got epically owned within two hits. I returned though and waited till it got to the ledge where it attacks with its poison fire, observed it and then realised it was very slow and hard of sight. After realising how I could run to one side where it would attack and then run to the other where it wouldn't, I was able to attack the arms of it and finally slay. The reward wasn't as good as I would have hoped though...

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Sorry for double posting but BSN isn't showing my post right now so I can't edit.

Ornstein and Smough? I killed these guys first go which I was surprised at. I just charged as soon as I encountered them. Now I'm wearing the Golem's armor chest piece and Havel's armor for everything else. My character looks very big due to the armor and I'm trying to reach 50 strength so I can wield the dragon greatsword which I got off of the Everlasting Dragon in The Ash Lake. I also want to wield the Giant's Great Shield.

I'm having problems with Seath The Scaleless right now, I don't know how to get up close and personal with this guy and he's immune to my fire arrows (expected really, since he IS a dragon). After a few minutes in the fight with him, he CONTINUALLY casts a spell which sends frozen ice spikes across the WHOLE of the battlefield, there's only a small spot where you can stand and be safe and from there, you CAN'T do anything. Move and you get hurt, I had to teleport out of there.

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Elton John is dead wrote...

RPGamer13 wrote...
Wait til you get to Priscilla's room.  There's a reason you can see footprints in the snow.. 


The insane **** killed me two times!!! Third time was the charm I guess and I slew her and sent her on her way to Hell (or whatever Dark Souls' equalivent of Hell is).

I decided to tackle the undead dragon afterwards headfirst...I got epically owned within two hits. I returned though and waited till it got to the ledge where it attacks with its poison fire, observed it and then realised it was very slow and hard of sight. After realising how I could run to one side where it would attack and then run to the other where it wouldn't, I was able to attack the arms of it and finally slay. The reward wasn't as good as I would have hoped though...

It's not the destination, it's the journeeerrrgghuunhngluurrrk... Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn  Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn, Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn, Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn, Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Modifié par lobi, 18 octobre 2011 - 03:01 .


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Elton John is dead wrote...

Sorry for double posting but BSN isn't showing my post right now so I can't edit.

Ornstein and Smough? I killed these guys first go which I was surprised at. I just charged as soon as I encountered them. Now I'm wearing the Golem's armor chest piece and Havel's armor for everything else. My character looks very big due to the armor and I'm trying to reach 50 strength so I can wield the dragon greatsword which I got off of the Everlasting Dragon in The Ash Lake. I also want to wield the Giant's Great Shield.

I'm having problems with Seath The Scaleless right now, I don't know how to get up close and personal with this guy and he's immune to my fire arrows (expected really, since he IS a dragon). After a few minutes in the fight with him, he CONTINUALLY casts a spell which sends frozen ice spikes across the WHOLE of the battlefield, there's only a small spot where you can stand and be safe and from there, you CAN'T do anything. Move and you get hurt, I had to teleport out of there.


SPOILER

You're supposed to lose that first fight with him. Later, you can fight him from a different area and he's significantly easier.

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milena87 wrote...

Havel was the worst fight for me: I think it took me about 20 attempts before he finally died (totally worth it for that ring).

Yesterday I went back to the Undead Asylum and I got the Rusted Iron Ring, I don't know if I should go face the Hydra or continue to the Depths...uhm... maybe I should grind some souls and try to create a divine weapon with the amber I got from the Butterfly boss..


If you mean the soul: You can use a +10 shield like the Hollow Soldier Shield or the broken wood shield to make a shield that right now has an R2 attack that does damage based on the strength of your right hand weapon.  Magic damage on a weapon also seems to make it stronger than any other enchantment or just stright up Physical damage.  Or you can use it to make a Spear, use any Spear or Rapier, that has nothing but magic damage on it.

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JohnEpler wrote...

Elton John is dead wrote...

Sorry for double posting but BSN isn't showing my post right now so I can't edit.

Ornstein and Smough? I killed these guys first go which I was surprised at. I just charged as soon as I encountered them. Now I'm wearing the Golem's armor chest piece and Havel's armor for everything else. My character looks very big due to the armor and I'm trying to reach 50 strength so I can wield the dragon greatsword which I got off of the Everlasting Dragon in The Ash Lake. I also want to wield the Giant's Great Shield.

I'm having problems with Seath The Scaleless right now, I don't know how to get up close and personal with this guy and he's immune to my fire arrows (expected really, since he IS a dragon). After a few minutes in the fight with him, he CONTINUALLY casts a spell which sends frozen ice spikes across the WHOLE of the battlefield, there's only a small spot where you can stand and be safe and from there, you CAN'T do anything. Move and you get hurt, I had to teleport out of there.


SPOILER

You're supposed to lose that first fight with him. Later, you can fight him from a different area and he's significantly easier.


Ah thanks! Good to know.

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Backstabbing is great fun in this game, never seems to get old watching my sword erupt from the guys chest.

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The Earl Of Bronze wrote...

Backstabbing is great fun in this game, never seems to get old watching my sword erupt from the guys chest.


Try  that with a mace or sword. *grins sadistcally.*

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The Earl Of Bronze wrote...

Backstabbing is great fun in this game, never seems to get old watching my sword erupt from the guys chest.


I love Riposting even more. Its like Backstabbing in the front. Image IPB

And it gives more souls when you do it right. Profit!

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There is a speedrun video on the youtube(dont watch it players skills will get on your nerves),
He/She uses Drake Sword on both hands, and riposte with left EMPTY hand...
I feel so noob at times like this, hardly can riposte even with small shields...

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gammameggon wrote...

This game obviously has my attention and has been on my radar, just like Deus Ex: Human Revolution. I will get around to playing DE: HR, but now I want to know about Dark Souls. How is it? How's quality? How's the UI, loot and inventory systems? How is level design and music? Is it massive and expansive with branching paths, or very linear?

Worth a purchase?


Which is more painful, playing Dark Souls or nailing your dick to the table?

Winner: Dark Souls!

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But MacCready, like the song goes: It cuts like a knife, but it feels so right.

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DominusVita wrote...

But MacCready, like the song goes: It cuts like a knife, but it feels so right.


Well after a turbulent love affair of 10 hours with this game I'm calling for a divorce. I tried to make it work but there's only so many black eyes I can take!