I think the HP and damage reductions are more for enemies earlier in the game and would make the most sense.
I might actually fire the game up again to check out these changes. But I am glad I got all the trophies before this patch released, Even though, I would have declined the update and just played the game offline to avoid having to update the game. I am especially interested to see how they changed weapon scaling.
Damn, I wish I had kept my completed save just so I could fire it up and see right away.
Dark Souls...how is it?
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Not from the video I seen it didn't. Dragons don't stay in one place not doing anything.Elton John is dead wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I was interested in this game until IGN said it had better dragons than Skyrim.
It does have better dragons...
And Dragon's Dogma has better dragons than both games.
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Posté 03 novembre 2011 - 06:27
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jreezy wrote...
Not from the video I seen it didn't. Dragons don't stay in one place not doing anything.Elton John is dead wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I was interested in this game until IGN said it had better dragons than Skyrim.
It does have better dragons...
And Dragon's Dogma has better dragons than both games.
Have you come across a lot of dragons in your time? We don't see any in the UK.
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You didn't know? There's dragons everywhere in the United States!The Earl Of Bronze wrote...
jreezy wrote...
Not from the video I seen it didn't. Dragons don't stay in one place not doing anything.Elton John is dead wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I was interested in this game until IGN said it had better dragons than Skyrim.
It does have better dragons...
And Dragon's Dogma has better dragons than both games.
Have you come across a lot of dragons in your time? We don't see any in the UK.
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Posté 04 novembre 2011 - 10:20
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*Contains hints of spoilers*
I just finished beating it--totally reminded me of how much I hated the endings of every single game on the SNES. After countering all of the end boss' blows, I thought the ending would've been better. I mean I don't mind single scene endings like Planescape, but Dark Souls' just blew. The level design was way better than Demon's (minus Blighttown that was a mess), but I think they went downhill with the overall storyline. I thought the lady with the wax in her eyes (forgot her name) was a really good addition to Demon's, and the ending where you deny her rite made it even better.
I just finished beating it--totally reminded me of how much I hated the endings of every single game on the SNES. After countering all of the end boss' blows, I thought the ending would've been better. I mean I don't mind single scene endings like Planescape, but Dark Souls' just blew. The level design was way better than Demon's (minus Blighttown that was a mess), but I think they went downhill with the overall storyline. I thought the lady with the wax in her eyes (forgot her name) was a really good addition to Demon's, and the ending where you deny her rite made it even better.
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Posté 05 novembre 2011 - 09:07
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jreezy wrote...
You didn't know? There's dragons everywhere in the United States!The Earl Of Bronze wrote...
jreezy wrote...
Not from the video I seen it didn't. Dragons don't stay in one place not doing anything.Elton John is dead wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I was interested in this game until IGN said it had better dragons than Skyrim.
It does have better dragons...
And Dragon's Dogma has better dragons than both games.
Have you come across a lot of dragons in your time? We don't see any in the UK.
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Posté 05 novembre 2011 - 09:11
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Oh, really? Demon's Souls had more of a story in the cutscenes?
After playing Dark Souls, I might try it out some time, if Dark Souls isn't as bad as people were making it up to be. I wonder how easy I'd find Demon's Souls.
Except for New Game+ I didn't have many problems, there weren't any that I'd say were detrimental either.
After playing Dark Souls, I might try it out some time, if Dark Souls isn't as bad as people were making it up to be. I wonder how easy I'd find Demon's Souls.
Except for New Game+ I didn't have many problems, there weren't any that I'd say were detrimental either.
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Posté 05 novembre 2011 - 03:21
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Oh, really? Demon's Souls had more of a story in the cutscenes?
After playing Dark Souls, I might try it out some time, if Dark Souls isn't as bad as people were making it up to be. I wonder how easy I'd find Demon's Souls.
Except for New Game+ I didn't have many problems, there weren't any that I'd say were detrimental either.
Demon's is a lot harder. I mean it isn't as insanely difficult as the reviewers give it, but its way harder than Dark Souls. The level design is really bad in Demon's though b/c it feels so small (well it is). The combat, though, is way more fluid because of the lack of lag. I'm surprised not that many people that played Dark has beaten Demon's. I've been helping people out, and all of them seem to not know what Demon's was all about. Maybe, though, Demon's was less difficult, but I made it harder on myself using un-upgraded weapons.
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Posté 05 novembre 2011 - 05:43
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Demon's Souls was harder because we havent played anytihng like it for a long time(only i can think of is Monster hunter for Assians)
We played Demon's and shed a lot of tears but it also prepaired us. We hardened!(lol couldnt resist)
İm now playing Demons souls after finishing Dark 2 times. And Dark is much more unforgiving.
Only easier areas in Dark souls are,
1- You can find a decent weapon early.
2. Lighting weapons are overpowered against nearly everythig even blue drakes ...
3. It IS easier to find Co-op players than Demons.
We played Demon's and shed a lot of tears but it also prepaired us. We hardened!(lol couldnt resist)
İm now playing Demons souls after finishing Dark 2 times. And Dark is much more unforgiving.
Only easier areas in Dark souls are,
1- You can find a decent weapon early.
2. Lighting weapons are overpowered against nearly everythig even blue drakes ...
3. It IS easier to find Co-op players than Demons.
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Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 05:12
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jreezy wrote...
Not from the video I seen it didn't. Dragons don't stay in one place not doing anything.Elton John is dead wrote...
jreezy wrote...
I was interested in this game until IGN said it had better dragons than Skyrim.
It does have better dragons...
And Dragon's Dogma has better dragons than both games.
What video was that? The blue dragons (drakes) in The Valley of Drakes fly towards you sending lightning sparks down. There's only two dragons that stay in one place and that's the two undead dragons and the first one is stuck to a cliff whereas the second one has no legs. So they can hardly hunt you down.
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#186
Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 09:45
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I'm going to play Dark Souls after Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur and Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
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Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 10:34
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Skyrim may be a better overall game, but Dark Souls is definitely the better RPG. I plan on playing it when I get my PS3 fixed. I'm really disappointed it didn't come to PC.
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Posté 11 décembre 2011 - 11:00
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Laser Beam wrote...
Skyrim may be a better overall game, but Dark Souls is definitely the better RPG. I plan on playing it when I get my PS3 fixed. I'm really disappointed it didn't come to PC.
It's a jrpg was there any hope?
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Yeah... I don't even think Dragon's Dogma will ever be released on PC, sounds to me like Capcom wanted to make a console open world game, I just recently read that in the latest GameInformer.
I didn't play Demon's Souls and I didn't find Dark Souls on the first playthrough all that difficult. It wasn't until NG+ where the strength of bosses outweighed the defense given by even the best armor that it became frustratingly difficult for me.
I would say the first playthrough was easier than Ninja Gaiden Sigma for me on even the lowest setting.
Cyberarmy wrote...
Demon's Souls was harder because we havent played anytihng like it for a long time(only i can think of is Monster hunter for Assians)
We played Demon's and shed a lot of tears but it also prepaired us. We hardened!(lol couldnt resist)
İm now playing Demons souls after finishing Dark 2 times. And Dark is much more unforgiving.
Only easier areas in Dark souls are,
1- You can find a decent weapon early.
2. Lighting weapons are overpowered against nearly everythig even blue drakes ...
3. It IS easier to find Co-op players than Demons.
I didn't play Demon's Souls and I didn't find Dark Souls on the first playthrough all that difficult. It wasn't until NG+ where the strength of bosses outweighed the defense given by even the best armor that it became frustratingly difficult for me.
I would say the first playthrough was easier than Ninja Gaiden Sigma for me on even the lowest setting.
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Cyberarmy wrote...
Demon's Souls was harder because we havent played anytihng like it for a long time(only i can think of is Monster hunter for Assians)
We played Demon's and shed a lot of tears but it also prepaired us. We hardened!(lol couldnt resist)
İm now playing Demons souls after finishing Dark 2 times. And Dark is much more unforgiving.
Only easier areas in Dark souls are,
1- You can find a decent weapon early.
2. Lighting weapons are overpowered against nearly everythig even blue drakes ...
3. It IS easier to find Co-op players than Demons.
I didn't play Demon's Souls and I didn't find Dark Souls on the first playthrough all that difficult. It wasn't until NG+ where the strength of bosses outweighed the defense given by even the best armor that it became frustratingly difficult for me.
I would say the first playthrough was easier than Ninja Gaiden Sigma for me on even the lowest setting.
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That's probably for the best, because once you get into Dark Souls you won't touch any of those other games. I've still only put about 12 hours in on Skyrim, but I have about 160 on Dark Souls. it's amazing.sympathyforsaren wrote...
I'm going to play Dark Souls after Skyrim, Kingdoms of Amalur and Deus Ex: Human Revolution.
#192
Posté 13 décembre 2011 - 04:46
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whats darksouls storyline anyways?
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There's not much of a story/dialog in the Souls games. It's all about the gameplay (very well done melee combat system) and some nice character/equ building.Hellbound555 wrote...
whats darksouls storyline anyways?
It's kinda like a newer SotN style game.
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Hellbound555 wrote...
whats darksouls storyline anyways?
The lore and such isn't very interesting and rather dull to me, but playing it is what makes it so fun.
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Quick-question for anyone who might have this info off-hand:
Does it ever become possible to use two-handers effectively in one hand, by pumping points into strength? I can technically equip a Bastard Sword in one hand, but the swing is slow and cumbersome, so I wanted to see if I can eventually swing it at about the speed of a long sword or something similar. If it's possible, I might decide to play with a sword and spear build, just for the fun of it.
Does it ever become possible to use two-handers effectively in one hand, by pumping points into strength? I can technically equip a Bastard Sword in one hand, but the swing is slow and cumbersome, so I wanted to see if I can eventually swing it at about the speed of a long sword or something similar. If it's possible, I might decide to play with a sword and spear build, just for the fun of it.
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Posté 25 décembre 2011 - 01:11
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I hear it has a rip-roaring story.
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It's not really plot heavy, from what I've seen so far. But what's there does a pretty great job of building a creepy atmosphere. It's about as minimalistic as storylines get without removing dialogue altogether.
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I don't know...the story actually is open to interpretation. See the videos on YouTube where you give Kathe the Lordvessel.
Spoilers:
Some people believe that The Age of Dark is actually The Age of Humans and that Frampt is deceiving you into continuing The Age of Fire which is actually the wrong age and that it continues the Undead curse. After all, you receive the Lordvessel from an illusion: Gwynevere is actually an illusion created by her brother, Gwyndolin. She left Anor Londo long ago and this is shown if you attack her. Gwyndolin is the son of Lord Gwyn and it would make sense for him to be serving his father who didn't want The Age of Dark to come about. Thus, Gwyndolin is continuing his father's goal by fooling you into kick starting The Age of Fire again. The Age of Dark is actually the right choice to go about. Kathe states that your ancestor (the little figure in the prologue near the end who is clutching one of the souls) the furtive pygmy claimed one of the Lord Souls which was the Dark Soul. You are his successor - being a direct ancestor - and you must bring about The Age of Dark.
However:
My theory is that The Age of Fire is good and The Age of Dark is bad. The Sealer in the New Londo ruins says that the Darkwraiths - formed by none other than Kathe - are the ENEMIES of mankind and hate everything that has a soul. New Londo was flooded to contain them. Verily, the Darkwraiths suck the humanity out of people and Kathe encourages the player to use this ability if you join him. That doesn't sound very humane to me. In conclusion, Kathe is trying to fool the player. While I do not doubt that the furtive pygmy was your ancestor, that still doesn't mean that Kathe's way is good. When going through with Kathe's ending, you emerge into complete Darkness and you're called The Dark Lord. Basically, the world is darkness now. Gwyn saw this, this is why he tried to prevent The Age of Dark from coming about and sent his Knights to shepherd mankind. In theory, humanity is death and Gwyn did all he can to make sure The Age of Fire could continue. Be sacrificing yourself to the fire, you start The Age of Fire again, undoing the undead curse but eventually, I believe that the undead dead curse will return once again and that someone will need to go through your journey.
In full conclusion:
The Firelink ending leads to peace for maybe a few centuries of thousands of years. Then, once The Age of Fire starts to end, the undead curse will return. Remember, the undead curse never always existed, it only came about during the end of The Age of Fire. The Dark Lord ending makes you the Dark Lord and I think you become some dark being. Everything with humanity and a soul will die to you.
As the prologue states: "with The Age of Fire came Disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course... Light and Dark." Life and death...so you see. The Age of Fire made everything balanced. The undead curse only came when The Age of Fire was ending. So by starting The Age of Fire again, death comes back. As does life.
I like how the story has fooled some people into thinking that the evil ending is actually the good ending.
Oh and according to information gathered, Gwyn had three children. One is Solaire:
http://www.gamefaqs....-souls/60841271
Gwyn's firstborn son was a god of war and he inherited the sun from Gwyn. However, the firstborn was foolish and this led to him being stripped of his deity status and forgotten by all. The great lightning spear was his weapon.
When we observe Solaire, he's seeking the sun that he had inherited but what was stripped from him. The great lightning spear is his weapon and he's also no stranger to battle and his power comes from his skill alone. Perhaps some of his godlike powers remained with him which explains why he's so strong. His name even hints to him being the inheritor of the sun. Evidently, when his deity status was revoked, so was his memory. It's no surprise that Solaire will actually help you fight Lord Gywn at the end of the game if he survives as he somehow feels some connection, as though it's his destiny.
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Dark Souls may not have the best story but the fact that people like Solaire exist in it makes it depthful. There's no dialogue in the game that states that he is Gwyn's son, you have to discover that for yourself.
The ending of Dark Souls actually had me thinking. So it's not that bad.
Spoilers:
Some people believe that The Age of Dark is actually The Age of Humans and that Frampt is deceiving you into continuing The Age of Fire which is actually the wrong age and that it continues the Undead curse. After all, you receive the Lordvessel from an illusion: Gwynevere is actually an illusion created by her brother, Gwyndolin. She left Anor Londo long ago and this is shown if you attack her. Gwyndolin is the son of Lord Gwyn and it would make sense for him to be serving his father who didn't want The Age of Dark to come about. Thus, Gwyndolin is continuing his father's goal by fooling you into kick starting The Age of Fire again. The Age of Dark is actually the right choice to go about. Kathe states that your ancestor (the little figure in the prologue near the end who is clutching one of the souls) the furtive pygmy claimed one of the Lord Souls which was the Dark Soul. You are his successor - being a direct ancestor - and you must bring about The Age of Dark.
However:
My theory is that The Age of Fire is good and The Age of Dark is bad. The Sealer in the New Londo ruins says that the Darkwraiths - formed by none other than Kathe - are the ENEMIES of mankind and hate everything that has a soul. New Londo was flooded to contain them. Verily, the Darkwraiths suck the humanity out of people and Kathe encourages the player to use this ability if you join him. That doesn't sound very humane to me. In conclusion, Kathe is trying to fool the player. While I do not doubt that the furtive pygmy was your ancestor, that still doesn't mean that Kathe's way is good. When going through with Kathe's ending, you emerge into complete Darkness and you're called The Dark Lord. Basically, the world is darkness now. Gwyn saw this, this is why he tried to prevent The Age of Dark from coming about and sent his Knights to shepherd mankind. In theory, humanity is death and Gwyn did all he can to make sure The Age of Fire could continue. Be sacrificing yourself to the fire, you start The Age of Fire again, undoing the undead curse but eventually, I believe that the undead dead curse will return once again and that someone will need to go through your journey.
In full conclusion:
The Firelink ending leads to peace for maybe a few centuries of thousands of years. Then, once The Age of Fire starts to end, the undead curse will return. Remember, the undead curse never always existed, it only came about during the end of The Age of Fire. The Dark Lord ending makes you the Dark Lord and I think you become some dark being. Everything with humanity and a soul will die to you.
As the prologue states: "with The Age of Fire came Disparity. Heat and cold, life and death, and of course... Light and Dark." Life and death...so you see. The Age of Fire made everything balanced. The undead curse only came when The Age of Fire was ending. So by starting The Age of Fire again, death comes back. As does life.
I like how the story has fooled some people into thinking that the evil ending is actually the good ending.
Oh and according to information gathered, Gwyn had three children. One is Solaire:
http://www.gamefaqs....-souls/60841271
Gwyn's firstborn son was a god of war and he inherited the sun from Gwyn. However, the firstborn was foolish and this led to him being stripped of his deity status and forgotten by all. The great lightning spear was his weapon.
When we observe Solaire, he's seeking the sun that he had inherited but what was stripped from him. The great lightning spear is his weapon and he's also no stranger to battle and his power comes from his skill alone. Perhaps some of his godlike powers remained with him which explains why he's so strong. His name even hints to him being the inheritor of the sun. Evidently, when his deity status was revoked, so was his memory. It's no surprise that Solaire will actually help you fight Lord Gywn at the end of the game if he survives as he somehow feels some connection, as though it's his destiny.
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Dark Souls may not have the best story but the fact that people like Solaire exist in it makes it depthful. There's no dialogue in the game that states that he is Gwyn's son, you have to discover that for yourself.
The ending of Dark Souls actually had me thinking. So it's not that bad.
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Posté 26 décembre 2011 - 08:52
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Main story and side stories in Dark Souls have a lot of depth. Its just game wont tell you any of these easy.
Big Hat Logan's thirst for knowledge,
Quelana of Izalith family tragedy,
Assassination of Reah of Thorolund,
Reunting the Siegmeyer of Catarina and his daughter and lastly
Lautrec Of Carim and his dirty deed.
Main story and side stories in Dark Souls have a lot of depth. Its just game wont tell you any of these easy.
Big Hat Logan's thirst for knowledge,
Quelana of Izalith family tragedy,
Assassination of Reah of Thorolund,
Reunting the Siegmeyer of Catarina and his daughter and lastly
Lautrec Of Carim and his dirty deed.
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That picture is so funny and cool. I loved how fat and jolly Knights Solaire was. I wish there were more characters like that. I especially loved seeing him again at his worse (don't want to put spoilers, but I was pretty sad seeing that).
Dark Souls' story is seriously lacking, and the lore is kind of okay. As bussin said, Dark Souls is all about perfect combat mixed with some beautiful graphics. I just want to say that the character creator was really good. The combat is so well made that I couldn't get into Skyrim at all. I've done maybe 10-15 hours in Skyrim, but Dark Souls runs well over 200+ hours. The story is pretty damn dark, though.
The last patch they made gave online a better rap. Online is still a horror story, though, with people running around at level 10 with all the good weapons. They should put some stat/level requirement for upgrades, seriously. They should also just cut pyromancy; it is ridiculously overpowered. I'm glad they nerfed the Ring of Fog because that was a damn death sentence.
That picture is so funny and cool. I loved how fat and jolly Knights Solaire was. I wish there were more characters like that. I especially loved seeing him again at his worse (don't want to put spoilers, but I was pretty sad seeing that).
Dark Souls' story is seriously lacking, and the lore is kind of okay. As bussin said, Dark Souls is all about perfect combat mixed with some beautiful graphics. I just want to say that the character creator was really good. The combat is so well made that I couldn't get into Skyrim at all. I've done maybe 10-15 hours in Skyrim, but Dark Souls runs well over 200+ hours. The story is pretty damn dark, though.
The last patch they made gave online a better rap. Online is still a horror story, though, with people running around at level 10 with all the good weapons. They should put some stat/level requirement for upgrades, seriously. They should also just cut pyromancy; it is ridiculously overpowered. I'm glad they nerfed the Ring of Fog because that was a damn death sentence.
