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Don't call yourself a troll. That's not nice.

DA II > Origins.


Dude, I'm just going to say this. I am a fan of DA II as well, but you are making us all look bad. So just stop. Or at least tone it down a bit. Can you do that? Hm? Can you? Can't we all just get along?


Making you look bad? Yeah...okay lololol. Sure we can get along, just only after delusional people stop spouting horrid lies like "DA II sucks!!!!!11!11!" or "Origins > DA II!!11!1!11", because NONE of that is true.:blush:

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I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.

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I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(

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I totaly agree. This game really sux. I bought and hoped it would be like DA:O but with better graphics aand instead i got a action arcade game??? And every damn dungeon you enter looks the same?? Why the hell did you guys do that for???
Im going back to play DA:O, The witcher 1 and 2.
Any change to get my money back? Maybe sue for fraud?

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I totaly agree. This game really sux. I bought and hoped it would be like DA:O but with better graphics aand instead i got a action arcade game??? And every damn dungeon you enter looks the same?? Why the hell did you guys do that for???
Im going back to play DA:O, The witcher 1 and 2.
Any change to get my money back? Maybe sue for fraud?


Not sure sure if serious. If so then there's a troll in the garden...

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Nah, Im not serious. Just wanted to add to the wine :)
My view is, If you do not like the game, then dont play it.
I do not like DA2, so i wont play it any more.
Its as simple as that.

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Versago wrote...

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I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.

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Quole wrote...

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Quole wrote...

I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

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Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126


Well, that review was probably some of the biggest pile of sh*t I've ever read.

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I hardly ever comment on these forums anymore. I just wanted to write that I don't care anymore and then get on with my life. Some of you should do the same, I think.

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And Persephone, I bought Legacy to see if Bioware could see where they went wrong. Nothing was changed except for the combat...

What a fail.

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Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(


Well yes DA:2 combat was conceptually better and did improve on a lots of DA:0 combat and even if the combat are shorter in DA:2 they are incredibly repeatedly boring and tedious compared to DA:0.
 
Now I take you prefer an arcane type of feel and there is nothing wrong with that. In fact from that stand point DA 2 is better than DA 0.

but most of the DA:0 fan base liked the fact that in DA:0 you have a much better tactical handle on how the combat was fought, mainly because every one could have close-combat and ranged options so you could adapt to the situation by using a different tactic and use the terrain to your advantage.
back to my med (Glenfarclas 27 year old)


 

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Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

Wait a minute...what?  So, you exploit a cheat in Origins and get yourself up to level 25 in Ostagar while playing on Casual mode, then say the Combat sucked compared to DA2?

LOL

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Yrkoon wrote...

Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

Wait a minute...what?  So, you exploit a cheat in Origins and get yourself up to level 25 in Ostagar while playing on Casual mode, then say the Combat sucked compared to DA2?

LOL


LMAO looks like that guy sucks not only at trolling but at gaming too.

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That explains a lot. Pathetic :pinched:

Modifié par Romantiq, 08 octobre 2011 - 02:51 .


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This thread has become totally off topic.

dimstog wrote...
Yes, the graphics are awesome, yes, the animations are great, yes, the characters seem interesting, yes, the cinematics and production value is extremely high.


The OP stated that a lot of things were better about the game. To keep pointing out things that DA2 improved on over DA2, or making the asinine argument that DA2>DAO or vice versa does nothing but risk the thread getting locked.

As I stated earlier, I think the problem with DA2 was that it lacked purpose or focus. The characters were well written, I believe, and the quests had good dialogue. But ultimately, they don't matter. You don't get drastically different rewards or outcomes if you side with Templars or Mages in most of the side quests, nor do you have to pay any penalties or get any bonuses with your companions, as the Rivalry/Friendship mechanic, while a nice feature, allows you to pretty much act with impunity.

Possibly if decisions like killing the magister's son or saving Feynriel actually came back and affected the end game, or how you handled things with the Arishok affected the politics of the city years down the road, then there would be interest and excitement with the game. As is, it feels more often than not that we are watching a 20 hour movie with 15 hours of it being flashy combat that still somehow feels boring.

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Yrkoon wrote...

Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

Wait a minute...what?  So, you exploit a cheat in Origins and get yourself up to level 25 in Ostagar while playing on Casual mode, then say the Combat sucked compared to DA2?

LOL


Plus - cloning tomes to stack a mountain of attribute points / talents / spells.

I'm not sure which is harder to believe - that he did it, openly admitted it, or has the nerve to express opinions about DAO combat.

Wow.

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Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

I agree. DA2 was a joke compared to most Bioware games. Origins was better is almost every way.


You see here? This is the delusion I was talking about! Please stay on your meds, dude.:(

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126


Well, that review was probably some of the biggest pile of sh*t I've ever read.


No, this review is the biggest pile of s*hit you've ever read. My review is probably one of the best in the entire thread.

Here is my oppinion about all that crap. I don't really care if anyone's ban me, really, I don't care. My oppinion would be even worst than it's now.



Dragon Age: Origins was one of the best games ever created with full-scale castles, awesome tactical combat, excellent dialog and some of the best writing seen in any video games. Beyond that it had memorable characters and was pretty much the best RPG ever created since Baldurs Gate II ( and was the actual spiritual successor). Bioware, instead of continuing this tradition decided to take A BIG ****ING **** on everyone who enjoyed the original and instead created the game based upon the retard-infested Call of Dutymarket and alienated everyone who liked the original. In turn, you get awatered down, poorly written, uninteresting stinking **** fest which tests not only your patience but your ability not stomp on small animalsuntil they are dead. Dragon Age 2 is not just a let-down because of itspredecessor but it is an all around terrible ****ing game even on it's own right.

So everyone enjoyed the first game and it had incredible reviews with a metacritic score of 91 and incredibly high user score. The exact ****ingopposite in this case with a score of 84 and a 3.0/10 for user reviews.You know some reviewer bull**** going on in the sense of PC Gamer beinga ****ing paid-off review site which will suck any game developers dick when they get enough money.


Dragon Age 2 had a lot to live up to when it came to the first game, however, if it kept most of the formula the same, improved some of the problems and graphics, and wrote a great continuation, there would have been no problem with the game being at minimum equal to the first. However, the real story is "STREAMLINED" it which basically means they took out everything EVERYONE liked and left the game as a hollow shell of what its predecessor and basically took a **** on all of its fans whosupported them by purchasing. Here is a straight forward list of why this game is a piece of ****



Sh*t Graphics:
The graphics in this game are a ****ing step back considering that theyare incredibly bland and uninteresting. The art design took a style to become more cartoony and JRPG looking and is a mash between western and and JRPG styles which comes off looking like **** on the overall scale. Different armors in this game simply look like a blend of stupid genericpieces of sharp metal rather the VASTLY unique different looking armorswe were offered in Dragon Age Origins. Beyond this, the textures (even with the High-Res Texture pack which you have to download separately) are absolute ass and when tessellation is enabled the game runs like **** and yet still manages to look worse than the first game. It is like they outsourced the development of the assets to some **** Chinese company who is better suited at putting poison in ****ty toys to kill small children.


Woefully Retarded OTT Animations:
Dragon Age Origins had excellent combat animations with the standard fighting moves being fancy enough to look actually real and vicious while still keeping a gritty tone to them. THIS GAME ****S THAT IN THE ASS. Now you get mages shooting fireballs from between their legs while doing blackflips and Hawke is doing whirlwinds left and right and hitting thousands of enemies at once in ridiculous flashy and stupid looking animations. Yeah, way to keep the serious ****ing tone of the game when my rogue is jumping around the game like a ****ing monkey stabbing people all around the map. Way to go dip****s



"Streamlined" Combat:
Basically, all that Streamlined combat means is they made it ****ing easy for dip****s who don't actually know how to play a game, i.e. Console players with stupid controllers. I was playing on Nightmare and the game requires absolutely no tactical thought or pausing at all. The spiritual successor combat of Baldurs Gate had a big **** rammed down its throat and we basically got a ****ing BUTTON MASHER. You just press your stupid moves to kill darkspawn and/or various humans and the flashygraphics just play and somehow everything ends up dead. The stupidest part of the combat is you attack groups at a time, so enemies with ****ing RESPAWN in front of you while in the middle of battle. That's right, to attempt to add some sort of stupid challenge, Bioware decided to make it so random enemies willl just POP OUT OF THE AIR and attack you in another group. If you play with the combat for more than 30 minutes you will become absolutely bored because even the flashly graphics don't help the game when it is a ****ing BUTTON MASHER.



Terrible User Interface:
Gone is the beautiful wood looking interface that you got in DA:O that was functional and extremely usable and was instead replaced with WHITE ON BLACK. The inventory which used to be a detailed Tome that you would open is not replaced by WHITE TEXT ON BLACK BACKGROUND. It looks like a ****ing iPad reject interface that Steve Jobs would have pissed out if he was a retarded down syndrome infested child. They clearly did NO usertesting and instead with their 12 month development cycle, just farted out the first thing that came to mind and everyone suffers for it.



Boring Characters and Dialog:
The first five minutes of the game you are stuck playing as a Human considering that ALL the origin stories are now gone which added replay and differences to the game and you are stuck with ****ty human companions. One of them is your sister who DIES thankfully because her writing was terrible. You get a stupid dwarf who looks like some fat mobster from the 80s wearing a sweat suit with his chest hair flaring out. Yeah, that is great character design. These characters have absolutely NOTHING interesting to offer the game, nothing they say is even remotely interesting, their backgrounds are bland, and beyond that the love story in this game is LAUGHABLE. Beyond that, they replaced thestandard text with a dialog wheel FOR RETARDS. Seriously the whole ****ing game the only replies you can make are HAPPY, FUNNY, BAD. Oh wow, how INTERESTED, yeah it really sucks me into the game when my stupid replies are the same stupid set of three options everytime. Whoever did the writing for this game needs to have his ****ing eyes swatted by a cat because no matter which characters speaks it is just souninteresting that it makes my testicles hurt.


Kirkwall is ****ing dead:
The whole game takes place instead the city of Kirkwall which is about as interactive as a dead gold fish. The city is just a repeatable sea ofbrown that you run through THE WHOLE ****ING GAME. There is literally NO ONE in the city that you can talk to and interact with. You just run around a CORRIDOR city. Seriously the game feels like you are running down a ****ing corridor the whole time instead of actually exploring bigcity areas. You end up going to the same ****ing areas multiple times just to do the same boring 50 quests over and over. That is pretty much all the game consists of is you going, I NEED MONEY, and doing 50 ****tyside quests that appear in the same pre-fabricated area. Yeah, that is about as interesting as counting blades of grass. There is NO interactivity in this game whatsoever.



The Story is Atrocious :
Seriously, this game has absolutely nothing to ****ing do with the previous two games which were released (Origins/Awakening). It is just you running around as Hawke going I NEED MONEY TO DO STUFF until some bull**** happens that you don't care about. The narrative isn't interesting, it isn't gripping. Hell, I've taken a dump that was my gripping in this game as I thought I might die, in this game, you are expecting a story to be like a million dollar fireworks show but instead you get ****ing snakes and sparklers.

That pretty much covers everything as they ****ing gutted the original game to release a turd in disguise to swindle people out of their ****ing money. This is MORE than obvious when there is a **** ton of ****ing DLC which comes out on DAY ONE instead of being included with the game. This was just a bull**** money grubbing scheme to help fund their stupid MMO. Bioware ****ED DRAGON AGE and ruined the whole ****ingseries. They literally have one option which is to pretend this sequel never ****ing existed and release a NEW and BETTER Dragon Age 2 instead of this ****.


0/10

Now as a quick side note, it is obvious by looking at Metacritic that the reviews were paid off. With sites like PC GAMER AGAIN stating that this is better than the original in every single way. **** YOU PC GAMER,you **** sucking low ****ing ****s. You are the bane of real reviewsand help to **** people out of money by causing them to buy **** instead of providing real reviews to people. You are the lowest, greedy,****** swapping dick sucking ****s and you deserve to have your ****ing****ty headquarters burned down where you print your bull**** greedy lies on paper.

Seriously, look at Metacritic, the game is scoring 7 and 8s with only ****ty review sites like XBOX Magazine giving it 9s and 10s. The Escapist is another ****bag as well who praised the game with LIES. You can smell the ****ing money just changing hands. Bioware must have spentall their ****ing money paying off reviewers instead of actually
putting it into the game. If you look at the users reviews they are almost UNANIMOUSLY negative against the game on PC, PS3 and 360 because real users are NOT PAID OFF like those ****ers writing this ****. All review websites should be on your ****ing **** list. **** you guys. Dragon Age 2 was ****ed by Bioware and we the consumers got a big ****ing dick up the ass. This game is a ****ing abomination.


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Yrkoon wrote...

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Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

Wait a minute...what?  So, you exploit a cheat in Origins and get yourself up to level 25 in Ostagar while playing on Casual mode, then say the Combat sucked compared to DA2?

LOL


LMAO looks like that guy sucks not only at trolling but at gaming too.


I do that because I don't care for the combat in Origins. Also, before you call me a troll or make false accusations that I suck at gaming, you should really take a moment to examine your own faliures. I'm sure there's a lot both of you can improve on.B)

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Yrkoon wrote...

Versago wrote...

Quole wrote...

Please enlighten me as to how it was better than DAO.


http://social.biowar...dex/6413491/126

Wait a minute...what?  So, you exploit a cheat in Origins and get yourself up to level 25 in Ostagar while playing on Casual mode, then say the Combat sucked compared to DA2?

LOL


Plus - cloning tomes to stack a mountain of attribute points / talents / spells.

I'm not sure which is harder to believe - that he did it, openly admitted it, or has the nerve to express opinions about DAO combat.

Wow.


DA II combat >>>>> Origins combat.;)

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xkg wrote...

LMAO looks like that guy sucks not only at trolling but at gaming too.


That's actually pretty funny :D

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LMAO looks like that guy sucks not only at trolling but at gaming too.


That's actually pretty funny :D


I know right! That guy is quite funny! And in case you were wondering xkg, we are laughing at you, not with you. It's always funny to see someone fail.:o

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^^^ LOL. I rarely get this many laughs perusing the Bioware forums :D

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Fast Jimmy wrote...

This thread has become totally off topic.

dimstog wrote...
Yes, the graphics are awesome, yes, the animations are great, yes, the characters seem interesting, yes, the cinematics and production value is extremely high.


The OP stated that a lot of things were better about the game. To keep pointing out things that DA2 improved on over DA2, or making the asinine argument that DA2>DAO or vice versa does nothing but risk the thread getting locked.

As I stated earlier, I think the problem with DA2 was that it lacked purpose or focus. The characters were well written, I believe, and the quests had good dialogue. But ultimately, they don't matter. You don't get drastically different rewards or outcomes if you side with Templars or Mages in most of the side quests, nor do you have to pay any penalties or get any bonuses with your companions, as the Rivalry/Friendship mechanic, while a nice feature, allows you to pretty much act with impunity.

Possibly if decisions like killing the magister's son or saving Feynriel actually came back and affected the end game, or how you handled things with the Arishok affected the politics of the city years down the road, then there would be interest and excitement with the game. As is, it feels more often than not that we are watching a 20 hour movie with 15 hours of it being flashy combat that still somehow feels boring.

Feel free to reply to this with some non-spam comments.


I agree with your statement and I think you pretty much nailed it with your earlier post.
I am currently replaying DA2 to revise my opinion on the game, and the more I play, the more DA2 appears like an "half-baked cake" to me. The ingredients are there but the final product is somewhat disappointing, mainly because something important is lacking.
What I am missing among other things, is an overarching theme that links the story bits together. The entire game I was looking for my characters goal - I mean the one that the game intends my character to have. In DA:O it was defeating the Blight, in BG2 it was finding Irenicus, in NWN it was saving the city, in PS:T it was finding out who you are.
In DA2 I found none besides survival and making a living, which are in my opinion not a really good ones as I never really felt threatened the entire game. Since the game didn't really give a direction, I started coming up with my own.
Well, and there is the problem for me: the game is sadly too linear to start designing your own objectives. There is no way of breaking out, of going your own way, and so you continue to follow the path laid out for you and on which you can't really change anything until you finally reach the end. And the whole time I waited for the story to finally kick in, to finally receive my main objective, my goal... but it never came.