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[mango smoothie]

Well my canon Shepard probably would say, Ashley, Garrus, Joker, Anderson, Tali, and Chakwas for people he can trust. When it comes to organizations he doesn't trust any of them closest one would be Alliance, but even though he supports them he doesn't fully trust them.

[eye basher]

The smart money says don't trust anyone cause when the chips are down even your own family can backstab you.

[mango smoothie]

eye basher wrote...

The smart money says don't trust anyone cause when the chips are down even your own family can backstab you.

This is true anybody can betray your trust at anytime during the right situation.

[diamondedge]

Only my squad. They would give up anything and everything for Shepard, and my Shepard for them.
Out of NPC's is Dr. Chakwas and Joker of course, out of my squad I'd say Liara and Miranda come on top.

I know my Shepard can do very little - if anything - by himself.

Modifié par diamondedge, 06 octobre 2011 - 08:00 .

[Drone223]

Organizations

Alliance:Shepard is loyal to the Alliance and is willing to go to trial in order to keep the humanity safe from war

Council:Shepard is on the fence with the council they represent the galaxy's interest but still they are politition's

Cerberus: Clear hidden agenda, coupled with killing Alliance soilder's/officer's, history betraying  their agents  and giving humanity a bad look in the galaxy Shepard will never trust Cerberus and will elimate Cerberus when the time come's

People

Liara: Will trust her so long as she won't go mad with power being the shadow broker

Jacob: Very honest with Shepard never keeps a secret, Shepard will always watch Jacob's back

Miranda: Shepards trust in Miranda is still growing but its very resonable

Garrus: Brother's in arms they will always watch each other's backs

Tali: Shepards "little sister" been through many things with Shepard

VS: They will always have moments where they disagree with each other but Shepard will always trust the VS no matter what

Legion: Legion is a great ally and will convince the council that the true geth will help when the Reaper's arrive

Wrex: A very great friend Shepard knows that he'll lead the krogan against the reaper's  

Anderson/Hackett: They are Shepards mentor's, they do what they can to help Shepard 

Modifié par Drone223, 07 octobre 2011 - 03:48 .

[ReallyRue]

My renegon femShep doesn't trust any organisation anymore (since none of them really believe her apart from Cerberus, which she dislikes), but for characters she mostly trusts Joker, Garrus, Wrex, Ashley (though not as much since Horizon) and Liara (since LotSB). She trusts companions that are pragmatic, and ruthless enough without being apathetic or mercenary (so not Jack/Zaeed/Grunt). Joker she trusts because he's always stuck by her.

My paragon femShep still mostly trusts the Alliance (she thinks they will come through in the end), also Joker, Chakwas, Garrus, Tali, Anderson, Kaidan, Jacob and Samara. Mostly Liara too, but Liara's more ruthless attitude in ME2 makes Shep less trusting of her. With the exception of Garrus, she trusts the more 'paragon' of the characters more.

[Iakus]

 Characters:

Liara:  Shepard's most stalwart companion, who fought her own war against the Reapers after Shepard's death

Ash:  LI who will always do what she thinks right.  Even if it means disagreeing with Shepard

Garrus  Hotheaded.  Impulsive.  Lets things get personal.  But eager to punch evil in the face.  The Minsc of the ME universe, almost.

Tali:  Wouldn't let her lead troops, but I can always trust her to have my back.

Anderson:  Has the wisdom to know when to play along and when to bust heads.  And will defy the Council itself if necessary.

Organizations:

The Alliance:  Though bureaucratic, they do see to humanity's security.

The Council:  Again, run by slow to act politicians, but they do keep the peace between alien species.

[MegaBadExample]

There is nobody in the galaxy my Shepard trusts more than Liara, he always will.

Garrus is his bro, who'll always have his back, even in really deep sh*t.

He cares deeply for Ashley and probably always will, no matter what...but they've got problems to solve.

As strange as it may seem, he trusts Miranda too.

Organizations? He's loyal to the Alliance.

[dunfall14]

Characters: Kaidan, Garrus, Joker, Anderson, Chakwas, Hackett.

Organization: The Alliance.

[Siansonea]

Devon Shepard trusts the Alliance, the Council, the Justicar Order, and his LI Liara, as well as his close friends.

Simone Shepard trusts the Alliance and the Council up to a point, as well as her LI Liara and her close friends.

Martín Shepard trusts Captain Anderson and Admiral Hackett, Kaidan Alenko, Jeff Moreau, Dr. Chakwas, and the late Ashley Williams, as well as the other Marines that serve on the Normandy.

Leah Shepard trusts everyone to do their jobs, and doesn't really require much else from them.

Ethan Shepard trusts himself, though he doesn't trust himself to be faithful to one woman.

Ashley Shepard trusts Morinth, and no one else. Only another viper could truly understand Ashley Shepard.

Modifié par Siansonea II, 06 octobre 2011 - 09:51 .

[LadyofRivendell]

My Shep trusts only the Alliance as far as organizations go. For characters, she trusts Kaidan, Garrus, Tali, Liara, Wrex, Joker, Kasumi, Mordin, Miranda, Jacob, Anderson, Hannah, Chakwas, Samara, and Grunt. So basically all squadmates except Zaeed, Legion, and Jack and a few supporting characters.

[pf17456]

Organizations - There are only three to speak of and all have proved themselves unreliable. Cerebrus with it's hidden agenda's, The Council who have repeatedly failed to see the truth about the Reapers and the Alliance who have 'issues' with Shepard because of Cerebrus. So none are trustworthy.

People-- Liara, totally and completely, moreso than anyone else.
Garrus has always been loyal and has earned Shepard's trust.
Wrex is Shepard's friend
Grunt ' Shepard is my battlemaster'
Chakwas owes Shepard her life and has been loyal from the start
Anderson has risked and given up much for Shepard and has always believed in Shepard


Miranda could be manipulated by Cerebrus since ther know about her sister
Joker has made statements like,' Hurry up I'm not losing another ship' which leaves me questioning what he'd actually do if a choice was forced upon him.
Tali first and foremost is a Quarian and would be highly conflicted if she had to choose between Shepard and the fleet.
Legion has a risk of being corrupted if his program is altered
Mordin's first allegiance is to science
Jack has unpredictable qualities
Samara is governed by her code
Kasumi and Zaeed were guns for hire
Thane is loyal to his son
Jacob was ready to kill his own father
VS already turned his/her back on Shepard on Horizon

Modifié par pf17456, 06 octobre 2011 - 10:13 .

[Labrev]

 Earned trust - (shown very clearly that I can trust them)
Joker, EDI, Chakwas, Garrus, Tali, Kaidan, Wrex, Liara, Anderson, Hackett.
De-facto trust - (trust in the sense that I do not distrust them)
Mordin, Jack, Jacob, Miranda, Grunt, Legion, Morinth, Kasumi, Zaeed.
Neutral - (could swing either way, willing to entertain)
Thane, Aria, TIM/Cerberus, Alliance, Council.
Distrust - (want nothing to do with)
Samara, Eclipse, Blue Suns, Blood Pack.


Actually, I think I would entertain Blood Pack for the vorcha-pyros. Heavy risk, but....

[SandTrout]

Xilizhra wrote...

Organizations... well, no organization is fully trustworthy, but the Council is the one she has the least fear of being tainted by Cerberus, humanity's cancer. They're either idiots or they just didn't want to tell the Cerberus agent about their plans for the Reapers; either way, she's withholding jugment.

The only reason that they're less likely to be tainted by 'humanity's cancer' (more like a pimple, if you ask me, but whatever) is because they are the galaxy's cancer already.

As for me, the alliance has seemed reasonably competent so far, and Anderson was straight up with my Shepard that he couldn't answer questions because they were classified. Even with them puting Shepard on Trial, it means that they are willing to maintain their priorities to prevent open war with the Batarians before the Reapers hit.

[Cypher0020]

My SR1 and SR2 crew + squads respectively... that's pretty much it

My canon is Pro-Alliance/Council, she respects them and will perform her duties as an alliance officer and spectre.....but its those aboard her ship she values the most

[Golden Owl]

Organizations:

None.

Squad:

Garrus....Always has Sheps back, he may be hot headed but his honorable.
Thane....Even manShep can develop a close, touching relationship with him...Shep may not have known Thane for that long, but something about him tells Shep he can trust him with his life.
Legion....Trusts Legion to always be honest with him and fight by his side.
Kasumi....She's not the back stabbing, ulterior motives type and respects Shep....he gives her the same respect in return and trust.
Kaidan....An honest Alliance Soldier, more inclined to work as a team than go for a power grap...simply a trustworthy, honest team player.
Samara...Shep trusts her to follow her code and trusts that she would let him know in no uncertain terms if she felt he was about to over step or has over stepped it...Sheps trust is more so trusting that he will always know exactly where he stands with her....and she will have his back completely unless he over steps that code.
Mordin....Trusts him not to backstab and always be honest.
Jacob....An honest Soldier just trying to do the right thing...has integrity...Shep trusts him completely.

Crew:

Joker....Always a part of Sheps team, always will be, Shep trusts him.
Chakwas....nuf' said.
Ken and Gabby....With how much Ken has already put on the line for Shep and Gabby willingly following, Shep has no doubt that he can trust them completely.

Others:

Hackett....Has watched Sheps back from behind the scenes the whole time...Shep trusts him completely.
Anderson....Does all he can for Shep...Shep trusts him completely.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:27 .

[Zakatak757]

While the Alliance has there problems, they are far more morally responsible then Cerberus, and don't have half the red tape the Council does. Oh yeah, and they stopped Sovereign from destroying all organic life in the galaxy. If I had to put the galaxy into the hands of one group, it would be them. Cerberus ONLY cares about humans. Council DOESN'T care about humans. Alliance benefits everyone, except maybe the Batarians.

Hackett > Valarn > TIM

I trust Garrus the most. He doesn't have ties with some political kingpin or some huge organization, he is just a cop with a killer instinct and a hot voice (yes ******). I know he isn't on my ship for his own personal agenda, he is here because he respects Shepard and wants to fight the bad in the galaxy.

Modifié par Zakatak757, 07 octobre 2011 - 12:35 .

[Xilizhra]

laecraft wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Organizations... well, no organization is fully trustworthy, but the Council is the one she has the least fear of being tainted by Cerberus, humanity's cancer.

The body of the galaxy is arealdy tainted by the Council cancer, namely turian denial, salarian silent non-interference, and asari complacency. This sickness reached the terminal stage. Soon, the Reaper fever will strike hard and fast, and the galaxy's immunity would be too weak to withstand it. Cerberus is the scalpel.

I know it hurts. But it's too late for pills and slow medications. Surgery must be performed to save the whole organism.

First of all, stealing my analogy isn't clever. If you want to attack, do it in an original fashion. Second, it doesn't even make sense. You can't have an entire organism be a disease, and saying that the government is, in fact, a disease, is absurd. The Batarian Hegemony sucks but it isn't a disease either. And third, the Cerberus scalpel is being wielded by a tentacle that's huge, extragalactic and omnicidal, so forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasm.

[SandTrout]

Xilizhra wrote...

First of all, stealing my analogy isn't clever. If you want to attack, do it in an original fashion.

Sucks when your words come back to bite you, doesn't it?

Second, it doesn't even make sense. You can't have an entire organism be a disease, and saying that the government is, in fact, a disease, is absurd.

Hardly. Government is only one part of the organism that is a society. Government is a tool used by a population to preserve their safty and prosperity, but if a government is no longer promoting those key points, and is actually destructive of them, then it can most certainly be a disease.

The Batarian Hegemony sucks but it isn't a disease either.

Yes it is, even if its people don't realize it.

And third, the Cerberus scalpel is being wielded by a tentacle that's huge, extragalactic and omnicidal, so forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasm.

The nature of Cerberus's involvment with the Reapers is still unclear, and it has been hinted by the devs that there's more to it than simple indoctrination.

[Xilizhra]

Sucks when your words come back to bite you, doesn't it?

I can't honestly say so.

Hardly. Government is only one part of the organism that is a society. Government is a tool used by a population to preserve their safty and prosperity, but if a government is no longer promoting those key points, and is actually destructive of them, then it can most certainly be a disease.

As of now, we can't say anything conclusive about Council preparation against the Reapers. Personally, I believe they do have something in mind and just didn't want to tell Shepard because Shepard's with Cerberus, but I suppose we'll find out...

[Kmead15]

Xilizhra wrote...

laecraft wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

Organizations... well, no organization is fully trustworthy, but the Council is the one she has the least fear of being tainted by Cerberus, humanity's cancer.

The body of the galaxy is arealdy tainted by the Council cancer, namely turian denial, salarian silent non-interference, and asari complacency. This sickness reached the terminal stage. Soon, the Reaper fever will strike hard and fast, and the galaxy's immunity would be too weak to withstand it. Cerberus is the scalpel.

I know it hurts. But it's too late for pills and slow medications. Surgery must be performed to save the whole organism.

First of all, stealing my analogy isn't clever. If you want to attack, do it in an original fashion. Second, it doesn't even make sense. You can't have an entire organism be a disease, and saying that the government is, in fact, a disease, is absurd. The Batarian Hegemony sucks but it isn't a disease either. And third, the Cerberus scalpel is being wielded by a tentacle that's huge, extragalactic and omnicidal, so forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasm.

Popping in to say that bacteria are both entire organisms and occasionally virulent. I suppose his metaphor might work if the Council was a disease that impaired immune function, thus making it easier for a secondary infection to set in. ("Reaper fever" did confuse me. Is the fever a result of the Council infection or are the Reapers a second disease that has fever as a symptom?)

The part of the metaphor I don't like is Cerberus being a scalpel. It's not clear what they're cutting or what to point of the surgery is. At first I thought the scalpel would be used on the Reaper disease, but that doesn't really fit Cerberus's longtime goals. Perhaps they're trying to remove the Council disease and restore normal immune function so the Reapers can be fought? That doesn't really make sense because they'd still be ignoring their goal of human dominance. They're more getting rid of one disease and replacing it with something that (in their opinion) would increase immune function which... isn't the purpose of a scalpel.

Of course, there are aspects of the metaphor that he's ignoring. For instance, he's assuming that a strong immune system is always good in the long run. Sure, it's useful to fight the Reapers, but when the Reapers aren't around then it may not be the most optimal choice for the organism. Not to mention surgery comes with costs of its own and is not always the best treatment. He claims that it's too late for pills and slow medication, but offers no support for the statement. I'm also not convinced that modeling galactic civilization as a single organism rather than a population of organisms is a good idea.

Overall I'd conclude that using biological metaphors is always an iffy prospect and should be avoided. However, I don't blame them for doing it. You started it and it wasn't like the Cerberus=humanity's cancer metaphor was any better.

More on topic, my canon Shep trusts every organization to look out for themselves and their goals first, which isn't always quite the same thing as distrusting those organizations. He doesn't expect personal loyalty from them and would be confused if they were willing to support him blindly.

[CptData]

iakus wrote...

Ash:  LI who will always do what she thinks right.  Even if it means disagreeing with Shepard

That's the same reason why she's on my top list. She's honest. She's not hiding anything even if that means to have a violent dispute with her CO. (Horizon!!!)
I'd trust someone who speaks his/her mind over anyone else who tries to be "nice" and "political correct" and avoids any real argument.

Anderson:  Has the wisdom to know when to play along and when to bust heads.  And will defy the Council itself if necessary.

He's Shepard's mentor and a friend. And he's even willing to do ANYTHING to get Shepard's rear out of the line of fire as seen in ME. Can't see him ever betraying Shepard.

Organizations:

The Alliance:  Though bureaucratic, they do see to humanity's security.

Shepard is part of the Alliance and, at least if following the paragon way, is trusting this organization.

The Council:  Again, run by slow to act politicians, but they do keep the peace between alien species.

Dunno. Even a paragon Shepard has some problems with the Council. He doesn't fully trust them, but he hopes they try their best to keep peace in the galaxy. The Council's past however shows that they tend to do wrong decisions (Rachni wars, Krogan genophage ...)

Modifié par CptData, 07 octobre 2011 - 05:49 .