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[Zakatak757]

This thread is f*cking garbage.

[slimgrin]

Busomjack alert.

[LGTX]

galligaro wrote...

LGTX wrote...

I won't flame your arguments. But I do find the ultimate proposition... Unsettling. They should just 'cancel' something they've been working their tails off for two years? How will that be MORE beneficial than releasing the title and gaining some revenue, piracy aside?

They have not worked on the pc release too hard. They make the port from the 360 version.

I take it back. It is too late for them to cancel. They should just delay the release for atleast 3 months. Tell how they are polishing the game for pc just like the smarter developers are doing. This will force some of the millions of people who are big fans of Mass effect buy it for the console of their choice. I know some of the poeople just can't wait.

If the game would be released same time on pc they would just pirate it because piracy on pc is easier than to get the real thing.

They pour significant resources into parallel development, "porting" isn't a trivial process of taking a bunch of code and dumping it headfirst onto a completely different platform. GUIs, mechanic tweaks, graphic options, gameplay balance - that's all being separately tuned for the PC versions, and no matter how lame or simple the actual process may be, it must not be left unrewarded. It's simply insulting to a company like Bioware.

Ubisoft have practiced furious anti-piracy measures. Like you said, they delayed their PC titles for months, employed online DRM systems, and what? Nothing. Piracy isn't solvable by brute-force methods which PUNISH CUSTOMERS. That's simply a company being stupid.

Modifié par LGTX, 07 octobre 2011 - 06:44 .

[Chala]

galligaro wrote...

LGTX wrote...

I won't flame your arguments. But I do find the ultimate proposition... Unsettling. They should just 'cancel' something they've been working their tails off for two years? How will that be MORE beneficial than releasing the title and gaining some revenue, piracy aside?

They have not worked on the pc release too hard. They make the port from the 360 version.

I take it back. It is too late for them to cancel. They should just delay the release for atleast 3 months. Tell how they are polishing the game for pc just like the smarter developers are doing. This will force some of the millions of people who are big fans of Mass effect buy it for the console of their choice. I know some of the poeople just can't wait.

If the game would be released same time on pc they would just pirate it because piracy on pc is easier than to get the real thing.

You are talking like if piracy on 360 and Ps3 doesn't exist...
Piracy on 360 is the easiest by far, just put the disc and voilá, play it. No cracks, no fixes, no proper release. Just burn the disc and you are ready.
And Ps3... Well, Sony is also screwed, again... There's a new Cfw around the corner that will allow play backups with no limitations of firmware.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 07 octobre 2011 - 06:46 .

[Gh0st_00]

galligaro wrote...

LGTX wrote...

I won't flame your arguments. But I do find the ultimate proposition... Unsettling. They should just 'cancel' something they've been working their tails off for two years? How will that be MORE beneficial than releasing the title and gaining some revenue, piracy aside?

They have not worked on the pc release too hard. They make the port from the 360 version.

I take it back. It is too late for them to cancel. They should just delay the release for atleast 3 months. Tell how they are polishing the game for pc just like the smarter developers are doing. This will force some of the millions of people who are big fans of Mass effect buy it for the console of their choice. I know some of the poeople just can't wait.

If the game would be released same time on pc they would just pirate it because piracy on pc is easier than to get the real thing.

Oh look, someone else on BSN who thinks they can tell Bioware what to do with their own game.

[galligaro]

Dariuszp wrote...

Also a fact. Call od Duty you mentioned sold more than any other game. So piracy is not a factor. Only thing it's probably change was Call of Duty as a brand. It make it more popular amongs kids who could not afford it. 

Also my friend downloaded Mass Effect 1 because THERE WAS NO DEMO. So he download the game. He play prologue. He BOUGHT the game. He told me about it so I bought Mass Effect. And he is in your numbers.

Sorry kid but you are just too ignorant do understand that we don't really care. If I want to check if game runs OK I download the demo. When I can't - I download the game. Simple as that. I check it out and I delete it or order it in shop or Steam.

Same with recent id Software RAGE. There is no demo. I COULD buy the game right ? But no. I downloaded the game and I learn that GAME IS UNPLAYABLE on ATI GRAPHIC CARDS. Even nvidia is causing problems. Also promo videos and screenshoots look nothing like crap they give us.
What did I do ? I didn't bought the game because it's a junk and I remove what I downloaded. Our law is OK with that.
So what now ? id Software should blame PIRACY that the game didn't sold ? NO. They should blame them because it was only way for me to check the game and I know that RAGE IS A UNPLAYABLE CRAP. And I don't play and don't buy CRAP.

So please take your numbers and your arguments and keep it for yourself because they are all stupid. Thank you.

Ah the legendary bull**** excuse of  "there was no demo so I pirated the game". In your mind you probably think that piracy sells more games don't you? I believe that you might have done this. But for every one of you there is 9 other people who are just goingto pirate the game and make same kind of bull**** excuses why they didn't pay for it.

Here an example for you: Mafia 2 was made for the pc gamers in mind. They released a demo for pc. Even the demo counter was hacked on pc. When the game came out it sold less copies on pc than either of the consoles even tho the pc version was superior. It got pirated even harder than Mass effect 2 the same year it reached piracy numbers of 3,5 million. RELEASING DEMO DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT PIRACY.

[LOLandStuff]

slimgrin wrote...

Busomjack alert.

That guy made sexist threads mostly.
But whatever happened to him?

[Inquisitor Recon]

Most people are pirating scumbags... and this is news how exactly? None of that means they still can't make some money off the PC version, as Valve and other companies have showed, there is still a ton money to be made in the PC market. Stupid troll.

[Soul Cool]

galligaro wrote...
In your mind you probably think that piracy sells more games don't you? I believe that you might have done this. But for every one of you there is 9 other people who are just goingto pirate the game and make same kind of bull**** excuses why they didn't pay for it.

You know what happens when developers start forcing PC players to buy on the console? Pirates will make it easier to play pirated games on consoles. Because there is no technical security system on the entirety of planet Earth that some crazy ****** out there cannot beat.

[galligaro]

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

You are talking like if piracy on 360 and Ps3 doesn't exist...
Piracy on 360 is the easiest by far, just put the disc and voilá, play it. No cracks, no fixes, no proper release. Just burn the disc and you are ready.
And Ps3... Well, Sony is also screwed, again... There's a new Cfw around the corner that will allow play backups with no limitations of firmware.

It does excist on consoles but no where near as much as on pc.
You say you just put in a disk and play.
First of all you have to mod your console. By doing that you lose your warranty. You also will be kicked out of XBL.
Now also tell me what do you use to burn the disk? A PC! That is right. You can't do crap without pc. On pc you don't even have to waste a disc. You don't lose your warranty and you definately don't lose your internet access. With many tunneling softwares you can even play the pirated games online. That is why Blizzard dropped their lan supports.

So you can't honestly be saying how 360 piracy is easier than pc piracy. If you knew anything about piracy you wuold have never said anything.

[CroGamer002]

Except that ME2 sold more on PC then on consoles on release day and had more pre-orders( mostly Digital Deluxe).

Oh and PS3 sold 600k copies to this day, but in first 2 weeks only 150k.
And ME1 is being sold very frequent on Steam.

I just remember, ME1 on PC sold almost like XBOX version. That's almost half of income we're talking.

[DarthCaine]

LOLandStuff wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Busomjack alert.

That guy made sexist threads mostly.
But whatever happened to him?

Banned. Made another account. Banned again.

[Gabey5]

Joined: 2011-10-07

[LOLandStuff]

Oh you people should ignore galligaro. He just crawled out from under his bridge and wants to make conversation.

[galligaro]

Soul Cool wrote...

galligaro wrote...
In your mind you probably think that piracy sells more games don't you? I believe that you might have done this. But for every one of you there is 9 other people who are just goingto pirate the game and make same kind of bull**** excuses why they didn't pay for it.

You know what happens when developers start forcing PC players to buy on the console? Pirates will make it easier to play pirated games on consoles. Because there is no technical security system on the entirety of planet Earth that some crazy ****** out there cannot beat.

Tue this. But since the online and systems are fixed atleast Micorsoft and Sony can somehow fight the piracy. By restricting those consoles from XBL and PSN. Killing the warranties etc...
On pc you can do absolutely nothing. DRM is not helping that is for sure.

[Whereto]

Hmm I smell a troll, it isn't a very smart troll either. At least if it is going to defend it's trolliness it should come up with some facts. Making them up from the top of your head doesn't work sorry.

[Remus Artega]

by the same logic they should cancel the PS3 version as well since it only sold around 300 000 copies...

This person lives in deep delusion that it makes any responses (no matter how accurate) to this thread worthless...

[galligaro]

Mesina2 wrote...

Except that ME2 sold more on PC then on consoles on release day and had more pre-orders( mostly Digital Deluxe).

Oh and PS3 sold 600k copies to this day, but in first 2 weeks only 150k.
And ME1 is being sold very frequent on Steam.

I just remember, ME1 on PC sold almost like XBOX version. That's almost half of income we're talking.

You are just making stuff up arent you?
Is selling frequently on Steam. LOL you have no proof of that. Show me some stats or get of this thread.

[Chromie]

This is Busomjack, Turnip Root, King Kale or one of the many accounts this guy has made to just troll.

[LOLandStuff]

They shouldn't even be selling for PS3. They didn't even need to make ME for PS3 since no one can play the first ME. And really, a comic that helps with your decisions? Who wants that?
My logic has no flaws and is mind blowing. Don't you dare contradict me or I'll come up with random invented facts.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Busomjack was still around not too long ago.

[galligaro]

Remus Artega wrote...

by the same logic they should cancel the PS3 version as well since it only sold around 300 000 copies...

This person lives in deep delusion that it makes any responses (no matter how accurate) to this thread worthless...

PS3 version has sold 600K today and they knew that they needed that in order to sell the third one on ps3.

[Chala]

galligaro wrote...

El_Chala_Legalizado wrote...

You are talking like if piracy on 360 and Ps3 doesn't exist...
Piracy on 360 is the easiest by far, just put the disc and voilá, play it. No cracks, no fixes, no proper release. Just burn the disc and you are ready.
And Ps3... Well, Sony is also screwed, again... There's a new Cfw around the corner that will allow play backups with no limitations of firmware.

It does excist on consoles but no where near as much as on pc.
You say you just put in a disk and play.
First of all you have to mod your console. By doing that you lose your warranty. You also will be kicked out of XBL.
Now also tell me what do you use to burn the disk? A PC! That is right. You can't do crap without pc. On pc you don't even have to waste a disc. You don't lose your warranty and you definately don't lose your internet access. With many tunneling softwares you can even play the pirated games online. That is why Blizzard dropped their lan supports.

So you can't honestly be saying how 360 piracy is easier than pc piracy. If you knew anything about piracy you wuold have never said anything.

That's where you are wrong mister troll...
I am from Argentina, here, piracy is common among us. You lose you warranty? You have to be an idiot to be caught by Microsoft with a pirated game.
And in the last years, playing online with pirated game on Pc is getting harder as ****. There are exceptions, but mostly is pretty hard to play MP.

Modifié par El_Chala_Legalizado, 07 octobre 2011 - 07:00 .

[slimgrin]

DarthCaine wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Busomjack alert.

That guy made sexist threads mostly.
But whatever happened to him?

Banned. Made another account. Banned again.

He was quaint at first, now I just think getting laid would allievate his PC hatred.

[Gterror]

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