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[Kaiser Shepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

But you calling me "a chubby" was out of line, regardless of whether or not you thought I looked like one.  That's a slur, and not a nice one.

Meh, I'm pretty easy when it comes to adapting adjectives to nouns, no harm intended there. You English speaking folk sure are sensitive when it comes to considering words offensive...

[WizenSlinky0]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The coddling of the overweight is
unnacceptable. We aren't talking about black skin or gender or
orientation here. Being thin or not is a lifestyle choice. It ceases to
be something I can sympathize with when air plane companies have to
redesign their seats to account for a heftier public.

Eh,
I'm not coddling anything really. Its a simple way the world works. If
somebody wears something well, people cease to worry about
technicalities.

While I agree they shouldn't really need to
overhaul their planes, one must take into account the fact airlines
companies for years attempted to compact the room down as little as
possible to maximize profits as the expense of comfort. Even skinny
people find the confines of airplanes to be almost unbearable at times.

So bad example, fyi.

And it is a lifestyle choice. Only, some people seem to think their choices should force others to make special accomodations, which is a personal choice of the service or person and not an entitlement.

[AdmiralCheez]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Meh, I'm pretty easy when it comes to adapting adjectives to nouns, no harm intended there. You English speaking folk sure are sensitive when it comes to considering words offensive...

Words that are harmless in some places are not harmless in others.

You know how "rubber" means "eraser" in England?  It means "condom" in America.

"Chubby" is an adjective fine on its own, but "a chubby" is a noun used to refer to a fat woman, usually with sexual connotations.  It has the unintended consequence of reducing that woman to nothing but her body type.

[WizenSlinky0]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Bull ****, I've flown countless times. Bigger seats means bigger costs.

Then why do seats at all? Throw everyone on-top of eachother like they were luggage.

The point is, it ceases to be a service worth paying for when the comfort level is 0, and airlines for a long time have attempted to squeeze people together in exactly that way.

Its only bigger costs because they demand bigger profits. That and the price of fuel has gone through the roof, roof, roof.

Saphra Deden wrote...

Really, in what country?

If
you are going to lecture Kaiser about words having different meanings in
different cultures then please realizes that it goes both ways.

In my culture "chubby" implies that somebody, male or female, has some body fat. Nothing more.

A good scale is that any word has become a sexual connotation in America. And I'm only partially joking. We're really good at making things sexual.

Modifié par WizenSlinky0, 23 octobre 2011 - 05:51 .

[Codyacsmith]

Y'all are frustating. I give up hope for anyone here.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

The coddling of the overweight is unnacceptable. We aren't talking about black skin or gender or orientation here. Being thin or not is a lifestyle choice. It ceases to be something I can sympathize with when air plane companies have to redesign their seats to account for a heftier public.

"Coddling?"

Heh heh. Hoo boy.

“Fat” is usually the first insult a girl throws at another girl when she wants to hurt her

I mean, is ‘fat’ really the worst thing a human being can be? Is
‘fat’ worse than ‘vindictive’, ‘jealous’, ‘shallow’, ‘vain’, ‘boring’ or
‘cruel’? Not to me; but then, you might retort, what do I know about
the pressure to be skinny? I’m not in the business of being judged on my
looks, what with being a writer and earning my living by using my
brain…

I went to the British Book Awards that evening. After the award
ceremony I bumped into a woman I hadn’t seen for nearly three years. The
first thing she said to me? ‘You’ve lost a lot of weight since the last
time I saw you!’

‘Well,’ I said, slightly nonplussed, ‘the last time you saw me I’d just had a baby.’

What I felt like saying was, ‘I’ve produced my third child and my
sixth novel since I last saw you. Aren’t either of those things more
important, more interesting, than my size?’ But no – my waist looked
smaller! Forget the kid and the book: finally, something to celebrate!

I’d rather they were independent, interesting, idealistic, kind,
opinionated, original, funny – a thousand things, before ‘thin’. And
frankly, I’d rather they didn’t give a gust of stinking chihuahua
flatulence whether the woman standing next to them has fleshier knees
than they do. Let my girls be Hermiones, rather than Pansy Parkinsons.

-- Jk. Rowling

Yeah, being overweight is a health problem and it should be dealt with accordingly. But I promise you, NOBODY is being "coddled" to.

[AdmiralCheez]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Really, in what country?

America, where nearly everything is a sexual slur.

[Kmead15]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Actually, so far Mass has fit me like a glove. 

To its detriment. Mass Effect keeps lying to me and I'm getting tired of it.

Your trouble is that you keep believing it. Cynicism wins again! I can see where you're coming from, though. If I'd thought the things they said deserved to be accepted at face value, then I'd have been annoyed when they kept going back on it.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

What, that time of the month suddenly isn't a time of relative emotional instability anymore?

Nope. 
For like 90% of women, "time of month" is just, "meh, I guess I'll go
easy on the salt and wear my ugly panties for the next three days."

Seconding this. I'm a chick and it took me a long time to catch on that the other 10% actually existed. I didn't even have to go easy on the salt. Then I met someone who had it bad enough that she was prone to passing out if she wasn't heavily medicated. It was enlightening. There's a whole spectrum of how periods can affect people.

[WizenSlinky0]

Saphra Deden wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

Then why do seats at all?

Huh, maybe it's because having everyone stand up in the cabin for 12 hours isn't very practical and as soon as somebody offers a flight with seats, at a marginally increased cost, everyone will jump towards it.

You need to sell your tickets at a resonable price so you make a profit. A dirt cheap trip won't make you enough money to cover fuel costs.

Really though, what you are suggesting is absurd.

Not really. I'm suggesting seats are shrinking, and that has been the case.

The average seat pitch (or leg-room) declined around 3-4 inches over the course of a few decades in order to fit more seats in.

[Kmead15]

Saphra Deden wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

Really, in what country?

America, where nearly everything is a sexual slur.

America is a big place, so what region?

It's in the South, I can tell you that much. And we're normally the last to get anything.

[rapscallioness]

xentar wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

xentar wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

Um, yes, death is a bad thing. In what way would it be good? (can't believe this is actually being debated)

In that it ends life which is eternal suffering, of course. Naturally, good and bad are relaive things, so, this approach may not. work for everyone.

Don't be overdramatic; life isn't "endless suffering", and not just because it isn't endless.

Xentar, is this some philosophical view, or are you about to put a gun to your head?

If you're about to put a gun to your head...DON'T DO IT! Goddammit! Don't do it. Life does get better...then it gets bad again...then it gets better...and so on. That's just the way it is. It cycles just like everything else. And no, life isn't fair, but it can be good.

If this is philosophical...well, death may not end life per se. It will end life as you know it. But then what do we all really know anyway?

Well, guns are difficult to obtain in Russia, especially with my knd of views. As for the cycle, it never gets satisfying due to the way our brains work, so, it cannot be good. It's a cycle between bad and worse.

So we're junkies for the suffering, huh? We crave that high.

We will never be "satisfied", no. We are always looking to the next horizon. The next level....and there's always a new horizon to chase after. But there are great moments of happiness. Even small moments of great happiness. Sometimes those are the best.

But, you know, Dude..if you are gonna go out just don't do the murder-suicide thing. That sucks. That's the ultimate selfish crap. I hate seeing that stuff. It's bad enough when one person wants to voluntarily take themselves out. But then some ppl take as many others as they can with them. Others that were just fine. That had no choice in the matter. Maybe they just fell in love; or had children they were trying to get home to. Don't do that.

[Hathur]

Couldn't sleep.. venting / fuming pointless post - don't read it.. don't care.. this is for my own sake.

There's a lot of genuinely unpleasant human beings here. Some comments by people like Saph are Kaiser are outright terrible / hurtful and sadden me to know there's mean-to-the-core people in this community. The vehement nature of such posts are leagues worse than what trolls do since at least those idiots do it just for a stupid, immature laugh... but some of the stuff you guys are saying are terrible

Please remember there are flesh and blood real human beings writing in these forums... not just virtual avatars comprised of bits and bytes. Things we say CAN hurt and cause sadness or pain to people.... if you find yourself ok with that, then you're a terrible human being and you should be truly ashamed.

This thread is terrible, morbid and depressing. I won't be coming back to read it anymore as it's purely sick now.

Shame on you all who behaved like such terrible people.

Empathy. Google it, jerks.

Modifié par Hathur, 23 octobre 2011 - 06:03 .

[WizenSlinky0]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Rowling needs thicker hide too. Is she finally done with those books?

So if I intentially set out to hurt you, or anybody else, they should just grow thicker skin? Really?

Suppose common decency and decorum is too much to ask for these days.

[Marionetten]

This thread sure has been going places.

Anyway, I think the issue here is that by implementing the ability to save everyone and get your perfect ending you're more or less invalidating every other choice as an incorrect choice. A few pages back someone had the brilliant idea of letting us sacrifice earth in order to save all of our companions. Would you pro-life fellows be good with something like that? You can have your whole team but only if you dedicate yourself to it and give up on something else. Something arguably more important. Of course, some of them might hate your guts for it but at least they'll be alive.

[WizenSlinky0]

Saphra Deden wrote...

WizenSlinky0 wrote...

So if I intentially set out to hurt you, or anybody else, they should just grow thicker skin? Really?

Yeah, I would and have.

Then I kinda feel bad for you. Because its a tragedy when life makes people believe the only way to get through it is to kill their emotions, which is the opposite of what anybody should be doing.

[Codyacsmith]

Hathur wrote...

Couldn't sleep.. venting / fuming pointless post - don't read it.. don't care.. this is for my own sake.

There's a lot of genuinely unpleasant human beings here. Some comments by people like Saph are Kaiser are outright terrible / hurtful and sadden me to know there's mean-to-the-core people in this community. The vehement nature of such posts are leagues worse than what trolls do since at least those idiots do it just for a stupid, immature laugh... but some of the stuff you guys are saying are terrible

Please remember there are flesh and blood real human beings writing in these forums... not just virtual avatars comprised of bits and bytes. Things we say CAN hurt and cause sadness or pain to people.... if you find yourself ok with that, then you're a terrible human being and you should be truly ashamed.

This thread is terrible, morbid and depressing. I won't be coming back to read it anymore as it's purely sick now.

Shame on you all who behaved like such terrible people.

Empathy. Google it, jerks.

Ditto.