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[Golden Owl]

Han Shot First wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Squad mate deaths do not equal a sad ending.

That all depends on who, depending on who each one of us favors.

No it doesn't.

If the great civilizations of the galaxy are saved and live on in a golden age of peace and progress, that is a happy ending even if your favorite character dies somewhere along the way.

A bleak or depressing ending is one in which the Reapers either triumph, or manage to cause so much death and destruction that the civilizations of the galaxy go through a dark age that it takes them centuries to recover from.

Cheez has said it for me.

[Dean_the_Young]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Garrus.

SH*T, MY SECRET'S OUT

THIS THREAD WAS ABOUT GARRUS ALL ALONG

NO NO NOT MY SPACE HUSBANDO

Never fear, Cheez. I will be willing to lend you an 'arm.'

Specifically, Saphra's.

[AdmiralCheez]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Never fear, Cheez. I will be willing to lend you an 'arm.'

Specifically, Saphra's.

Hell, bro, I ain't touchin' that.

[Sisterofshane]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

No it doesn't.

If the great civilizations of the galaxy are saved and live on in a golden age of peace and progress, that is a happy ending even if your favorite character dies somewhere along the way.

The problem here is that everyone has a different definition of "happy ending" and "good writing."

What I hope for in ME3 is that I can choose my own ending, at least after working at it for a bit.  I don't necessarily agree with being able to save everyone and defeat the reapers with NO consquences, but I should at least be in control of what sacrifices I make.  The Virmire decision is a great example of this, and this is where ME2 kind of got off track.

So, in my honest opinion, "good writing" in a rpg should still give the player a choice within any given set of circumstances, even ones where we are forced to make sacrifices.

[mopotter]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

The thing is, it can do that, but it can also make it feel cheap, very cheap, if no one near you dies.

There's another thread alive about the Normandy Crash site. People there have said (I believe) that it made them tearful. There's power, great power in death. This (emotional, well-done death) is rarely done in video games and raises the...maturity of the game (in my opinion).

I guess the battle is between the idealistic and the realistic. I personally feel I would appreciate the realistic better, but I see no problem with you appreciating the idealistic.

Edit: I WOULD certain not mind a "No One Left Behind" ending if it was truly difficult. And by "difficult" I don't mean "do everything." I only lost Mordin in ME2 (what with the weird Hold-The-Line scores) in my FIRST playthrough, so it should be something you literally have to work for.

Agree, it should be difficult, but I do hope they includ it.  It's one more replay I'll do and I'd like to see one where the whole team makes it through to the end.  

I have one, maybe two ME2 games where I saved everyone.  Most of the time I send whoever I think should be capable of doing the mission, not necessarily the person BioWare has decided should do it, so most of my games I lose people.  I only have 2 game where some of the crew died.  That I won't let happen ever again.  I also don't have one where the majority of the team died but that's more because I don't send people on missions who I know can't do the job.  

The first time I teared up at the crash site a little when I saw Pressley.

[Computer_God91]

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Squad mate deaths do not equal a sad ending.

That all depends on who.

Garrus.

If it was unavoidable (plot death) it would certainly go a long way towards ruining the game for me and have me return it to BW with an unpleasent note.

Of course it would. If you're a female and you play Mass Effect Garrus is the most perfect guy ever and god forbid that anything happens to poor old perfect Garrus. If he dies the game is so just not worth playing because the only thing that ever mattered in the entire series was ruined. Boo F*cking hoo.

I love the predictability of Garrus fanboys and girls. I knew saying his name would get that kind of response.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

No it doesn't.

If the great civilizations of the galaxy are saved and live on in a golden age of peace and progress, that is a happy ending even if your favorite character dies somewhere along the way.

The problem here is that everyone has a different definition of "happy ending" and "good writing."

Of course you're definition of happy ending is your shep and Garrus riding into the sunset. What's stupid is if you had to pick an ending where the entire galaxy is saved and goes into an age of peace and happiness with Garrus dying or have Garrus survive ME3 even if it ment the entire galaxy plunged into a dark age of war and never recovered from the reapers you'd probably still pick the ending where Garrus sucks wind for a few years longer.

[Golden Owl]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Squad mate deaths do not equal a sad ending.

That all depends on who.

Garrus.

If it was unavoidable (plot death) it would certainly go a long way towards ruining the game for me and have me return it to BW with an unpleasent note.

Of course it would. If you're a female and you play Mass Effect Garrus is the most perfect guy ever and god forbid that anything happens to poor old perfect Garrus. If he dies the game is so just not worth playing because the only thing that ever mattered in the entire series was ruined. Boo F*cking hoo.

I love the predictability of Garrus fanboys and girls. I knew saying his name would get that kind of response.

You have some serious issues don't you.......Jealous what?....

[SlottsMachine]

Computer_God91 wrote...

I knew saying his name would get that kind of response.

What response exactly? Oh the one where Cheez takes the high road with a funny post, then I thank you for that.

Modifié par GeneralSlotts193, 09 octobre 2011 - 04:47 .

[Computer_God91]

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Squad mate deaths do not equal a sad ending.

That all depends on who.

Garrus.

If it was unavoidable (plot death) it would certainly go a long way towards ruining the game for me and have me return it to BW with an unpleasent note.

Of course it would. If you're a female and you play Mass Effect Garrus is the most perfect guy ever and god forbid that anything happens to poor old perfect Garrus. If he dies the game is so just not worth playing because the only thing that ever mattered in the entire series was ruined. Boo F*cking hoo.

I love the predictability of Garrus fanboys and girls. I knew saying his name would get that kind of response.

You have some serious issues don't you.......Jealous what?....

Not jealousy, hatred. I have an issue with how much weight people put behind one character. It's like the god damn church of Garrus with you people. Do whatever you want but leave our sacred Garrus alone. "If you touch him I swear to god Bioware!" You'll what? Cry cause they killed off your favorite character? Grow up. Every one of my favorite characters in movies/books/games dies. Just cause your favorite character dies doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Plus that rumor has a 99.99% chance of being false that Garrus is boned in ME3.

[Golden Owl]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

Squad mate deaths do not equal a sad ending.

That all depends on who.

Garrus.

If it was unavoidable (plot death) it would certainly go a long way towards ruining the game for me and have me return it to BW with an unpleasent note.

Of course it would. If you're a female and you play Mass Effect Garrus is the most perfect guy ever and god forbid that anything happens to poor old perfect Garrus. If he dies the game is so just not worth playing because the only thing that ever mattered in the entire series was ruined. Boo F*cking hoo.

I love the predictability of Garrus fanboys and girls. I knew saying his name would get that kind of response.

You have some serious issues don't you.......Jealous what?....

Not jealousy, hatred. I have an issue with how much weight people put behind one character. It's like the god damn church of Garrus with you people. Do whatever you want but leave our sacred Garrus alone. "If you touch him I swear to god Bioware!" You'll what? Cry cause they killed off your favorite character? Grow up. Every one of my favorite characters in movies/books/games dies. Just cause your favorite character dies doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Plus that rumor has a 99.99% chance of being false that Garrus is boned in ME3.

Who's taking games too far now?......Kind of excitable aren't you.

[AdmiralCheez]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Not jealousy, hatred. I have an issue with how much weight people put behind one character. It's like the god damn church of Garrus with you people. Do whatever you want but leave our sacred Garrus alone. "If you touch him I swear to god Bioware!" You'll what? Cry cause they killed off your favorite character? Grow up. Every one of my favorite characters in movies/books/games dies. Just cause your favorite character dies doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Plus that rumor has a 99.99% chance of being false that Garrus is boned in ME3.

Dude, chill the f*ck out.  My favorite character pretty much always dies, too.  You can understand me wanting a break, right?

Look.  Hatred is not cool, not even against a bunch of fantards.  I rip on stuff like Twilight for fun, but I don't hate the people that like it.  I think they have horrible taste, but I don't exactly cringe and hiss when a friend starts gushing about how wonderful and perfect Edward is.

People should be allowed to act like overly-passionate retards about the stuff they like.  They're not hurting anyone, even though they're creepy and annoying, and they're more than willing to make fun of themselves over how ridiculous they are.  I do it all the time.

You're the one that needs to grow up, here.

[SlottsMachine]

Its funny though. Most random character rant I've ever seen. "I want a happy ending" "I want pain and suffering" "Garrus blows"

[CoffeeHolic93]

Golden Owl wrote...
-huge snip-
Who's taking games too far now?......Kind of excitable aren't you.

I wil add my 2cents. I can see Garrus dying. He's gotten increasingly reckless over the course of the games, from abandoning C-sec to wanting to kill Dr. Heart instead of capturing him, to pissing off every major mercband on Omega, to going after Sidonis without a care other than revenge. If this trend continues he might die.

That said, this is an RPG AND Garrus is a fan-favorite, so Bioware will most likely include a way to save him. Who knows? The game's not out yet. :happy:

Now everyone, take a deep breath and relax. Opinions are all well and good, but not everyone agrees with yours mmkay? 

[Golden Owl]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

Not jealousy, hatred. I have an issue with how much weight people put behind one character. It's like the god damn church of Garrus with you people. Do whatever you want but leave our sacred Garrus alone. "If you touch him I swear to god Bioware!" You'll what? Cry cause they killed off your favorite character? Grow up. Every one of my favorite characters in movies/books/games dies. Just cause your favorite character dies doesn't mean it's the end of the world. Plus that rumor has a 99.99% chance of being false that Garrus is boned in ME3.

Dude, chill the f*ck out.  My favorite character pretty much always dies, too.  You can understand me wanting a break, right?

Look.  Hatred is not cool, not even against a bunch of fantards.  I rip on stuff like Twilight for fun, but I don't hate the people that like it.  I think they have horrible taste, but I don't exactly cringe and hiss when a friend starts gushing about how wonderful and perfect Edward is.

People should be allowed to act like overly-passionate retards about the stuff they like.  They're not hurting anyone, even though they're creepy and annoying, and they're more than willing to make fun of themselves over how ridiculous they are.  I do it all the time.

You're the one that needs to grow up, here.

Cheez, you would love my daughters shirt I got her last Xmas...."And Buffy staked Edward...The End".......she wore that to the last Cos show she went to.......In fact she met James Marsters there, he liked her shirt...

[AdmiralCheez]

GeneralSlotts193 wrote...

Its funny though. Most random character rant I've ever seen. "I want a happy ending" "I want pain and suffering" "Garrus blows"

Hush.  Our very presence here denotes our dimished sanity.  If we ever realize how batsh*t insane we all are, the forums will wither and die.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Actually I think it would be a more amusing if we embraced our inner insanity and started shouting random stuff.

[AdmiralCheez]

Golden Owl wrote...

Cheez, you would love my daughters shirt I got her last Xmas...."And Buffy staked Edward...The End".......she wore that to the last Cos show she went to.......In fact she met James Marsters there, he liked her shirt...

Sounds like you've been raising your children properly.

[Kaiser Shepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Computer_God91 wrote...

*Well thought through post*

NO U GROW UP!

Ah, now there is the BSN I know again...

[Golden Owl]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...
-huge snip-
Who's taking games too far now?......Kind of excitable aren't you.

I wil add my 2cents. I can see Garrus dying. He's gotten increasingly reckless over the course of the games, from abandoning C-sec to wanting to kill Dr. Heart instead of capturing him, to pissing off every major mercband on Omega, to going after Sidonis without a care other than revenge. If this trend continues he might die.

That said, this is an RPG AND Garrus is a fan-favorite, so Bioware will most likely include a way to save him. Who knows? The game's not out yet. :happy:

Now everyone, take a deep breath and relax. Opinions are all well and good, but not everyone agrees with yours mmkay? 

Sorry Mi-Chan.......voice of reason again.......I do love the game and have my favorites of course, but I am not quite as fanatical as I am portraying, am just being something of a jerk......I allowed myself to be rubbed the wrong way.

[AdmiralCheez]

ReconTeam wrote...

Actually I think it would be a more amusing if we embraced our inner insanity and started shouting random stuff.

F*CKING DANDELIONS IN MY CEREAL.

YOUR MOTHER IS A FLAMINGO TEXAS MERMAID SHOOTING GALLERY.

I AM THE SACRED POTATO PEEL AND I WILL BOUNCE YOUR DITHERING OXEN FIELD.

[Golden Owl]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Golden Owl wrote...

Cheez, you would love my daughters shirt I got her last Xmas...."And Buffy staked Edward...The End".......she wore that to the last Cos show she went to.......In fact she met James Marsters there, he liked her shirt...

Sounds like you've been raising your children properly.

Doing my best......raising trolls....

[CoffeeHolic93]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...


I kind of feel obligated to mention Twilight.

Twilight Sparkle, that is.

Twilight Sparkle is awesome.

[AdmiralCheez]

Kaiser Shepard wrote...

Ah, now there is the BSN I know again...

He wasn't exactly well-thought out, I didn't think.  He came across as incredibly bitter and ragehatey.

I'm sorry that I came across as the more emotional and less mature one.  I was trying to be good-natured and relatively gentle.

You have a habit of reducing everything I say to the lowest common denominator, Kaiser :c

[AdmiralCheez]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Twilight Sparkle is awesome.

Rarity is better.