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[Zan51]

First glimpse of the "blue aliens" in the comic and I thought how like the Geiger "Alien" they were. Mind you, was just watching the movie the other day.. Even so, too like them for me ...

[Iron Star]

These aliens look like shiny blue turian quasimodos. Me like!

[Undertone]

Wow, they retconned Cerberus ****ing up an experiment yet again. Seriously when will they stop portraying Cerberus as completely incompetent retards.

[Zulu_DFA]

Undertone wrote...

Wow, they retconned Cerberus ****ing up an experiment yet again. Seriously when will they stop portraying Cerberus as completely incompetent retards.

Chilax, it's a successful Cerberus experiment.

Just taking over Omega, Madamme Aleena may as well take a hike.

[Someone With Mass]

Undertone wrote...

Wow, they retconned Cerberus ****ing up an experiment yet again. Seriously when will they stop portraying Cerberus as completely incompetent retards.

That's not a retcon, because there's nothing that says they did otherwise.

[Nashiktal]

Successful? If they wanted to test combat capabilities pitting them against random and likely drunk thugs isn't the best method. The only thing I could see successful from that is seeing how they do against biotics.

Why couldnt they throw them against batarians or some other organized military? If it's to remove aria it's going to fail, we already know that much, and as I've said random thugs are not going to give great data.

And again, why does Cerberus have to "pretend" to have another accident? Why can't they be visibly competent for once?

[In Exile]

Nashiktal wrote...
Release reaper monstrosities into omega? I guess they could study them. They lost another team, but that doesn't really matter they seem to be able to recover their entire organization from nothing. I guess releasing them on omega instead of yet another tiny colony seemed more prudent? I mean call me crazy, but I suspect releasing reaper technology (in that mass) into the wild is not smart. They couldn't even capture ONE HUMAN reaper hybrid.

The smart money is not on studying the reaper abominations, but how omega (which is armed to the brim in para military organizations that don't like each other) responds to the threat. It could serve as a microcosm of how the galaxy as a whole responds to the reaper invasion, and gain valuable data on what kind of counter-measures work at killing a reaper. 

You can also learn the rate at which an 'infection' of reaper agents spreads. 

Cerberus ****-ups are a dime a dozen, but there are plenty of good reasons to let a reaper go on the eve on an inevitable invasion. Even if Omega is overrun, not like it matters - the Reapers are actually just a year or so away. 

Modifié par In Exile, 09 octobre 2011 - 02:18 .

[Ragnarok521]

Well if it's an experiment then they'd need a way to control it, to keep it a closed system. Makes sense to release it on Omega in that case. I suspect that if the whole thing really is an experiment then Cerberus would have a way to destroy the station.

[CroGamer002]

Undertone wrote...

Wow, they retconned Cerberus ****ing up an experiment yet again. Seriously when will they stop portraying Cerberus as completely incompetent retards.

How's that a retcon?


Besides, this is probably successful Cerberus experiment this time. Maybe.

[littlezack]

Really, Cerberus' problem is more with personnel.

In just about every instance of a Cerberus experiment going wrong, it wasn't a case of a mistake they made, but a case of an individual screwing it up. Lazarus went wrong because one of the men betrayed them. Their biotics project went wrong because they're people went beyond their bounds and it all came back to bite them in the ass. Overlord went out of control because the man in charge was an unethical bastard. The project on the Reaper went wrong because the thing could still indoctrinate people even though it was 'inactive', which the team couldn't possibly have known beforehand.

I do think they overuse this angle, but I don't think it's a sign of incompetence on their part. Hell, most of the projects we see actually work, it's just a case of Something Gone Horribly Right. And like I mentioned before, we're only made aware of Cerberus projects that screw up. It's quite likely that Cerberus has quite a few experiments that work just fine, but there's no reason for Shepard to know about them.

[In Exile]

littlezack wrote...
I do think they overuse this angle, but I don't think it's a sign of incompetence on their part. Hell, most of the projects we see actually work, it's just a case of Something Gone Horribly Right. And like I mentioned before, we're only made aware of Cerberus projects that screw up. It's quite likely that Cerberus has quite a few experiments that work just fine, but there's no reason for Shepard to know about them.

The Illusive Man is a bad judge of character, then, and that's just a different kind of incompetence. If you keep staffing your projects with idiots, at some point it starts to be your liability for the poor hiring decisions. 

[Someone With Mass]

I'd say that Lazarus went wrong because the station had one of the lousiest security systems I've ever heard of. I don't care how leet haxxor skilled a guy can be, he shouldn't be able to crack the security system that controls the mechs on his own.

[Robuthad]

Seems like the "monsters" have a slight resemblance to the Protheans....

[Dave of Canada]

it's an experiment gone right, not wrong.

[ddv.rsa]

Dave of Canada wrote...

it's an experiment gone right, not wrong.

Those things are killing Ceberus personnel...

[Dave of Canada]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

it's an experiment gone right, not wrong.

Those things are killing Ceberus personnel...

Casualties of war.

TIM is amused.

[littlezack]

In Exile wrote...

littlezack wrote...
I do think they overuse this angle, but I don't think it's a sign of incompetence on their part. Hell, most of the projects we see actually work, it's just a case of Something Gone Horribly Right. And like I mentioned before, we're only made aware of Cerberus projects that screw up. It's quite likely that Cerberus has quite a few experiments that work just fine, but there's no reason for Shepard to know about them.

The Illusive Man is a bad judge of character, then, and that's just a different kind of incompetence. If you keep staffing your projects with idiots, at some point it starts to be your liability for the poor hiring decisions. 

Only if you believe TIM personally vets every damn person he hires, which is a little unlikely. Besides that, Overlord, Project Zero, and Lazarus - the three projects that failed because of something a human did - didn't fail because of idiocy, but because of immorality. Wilson was a traitor, the guy in charge of Overlord went too far, and the guys at Project Zero were took Cerberus 'ends justify the means' mentality too far. On paper, they were all probably well-qualified.

[ddv.rsa]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Casualties of war.

TIM is amused.

You think the plan was to destroy Omega? What for?

[CroGamer002]

I find it amusing that only experiment that is not going wrong( maybe) is the one when Cerberus is assisting the Reapers.

[Dave of Canada]

ddv.rsa wrote...

You think the plan was to destroy Omega? What for?

If I were to hazard a guess, something to do with Retribution's ending. Either TIM wants to be the only one with the intel on indoctrination or he realized Aria screwed him over. Kai Leng is involved in the events of Invasion too.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 09 octobre 2011 - 08:59 .

[ddv.rsa]

Why do you say that is Kai Leng?

[NPH11]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Casualties of war.

TIM is amused.

You think the plan was to destroy Omega? What for?

Omega is basically the "Citadel of the Terminus". If this is the first sign of Cerberus turning to support the Reaper invasion, it makes sense to eliminate the one location that could potentially unite the Terminus under a single banner.

That being said, I'm not sure what exactly is happening here. Was releasing these creatures the plan? Did they take out Cerberus on the other side of the Omega 4 Relay? Did they break loose while being transferred?

I also don't think it's fair to say that Bioware is trying to make Cerberus look incompetent. If Cerberus is doing things right, we're not supposed to be able to point them out as the cause of an event. They're supposed to be operating discreetly. They could have hundreds of successful missons we don't know about because they were successful with them.

[Dave of Canada]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Why do you say that is Kai Leng?

Fits the description and fighting style, I doubt they'd write another Cerberus operative who uses knives to fight,

[Xilizhra]

Dave of Canada wrote...

ddv.rsa wrote...

Why do you say that is Kai Leng?

Fits the description and fighting style, I doubt they'd write another Cerberus operative who uses knives to fight,

Also, he looks Asian.

[NPH11]

ddv.rsa wrote...

Dave of Canada wrote...

Casualties of war.

TIM is amused.

You think the plan was to destroy Omega? What for?

Omega is basically the "Citadel of the Terminus". If this is the first sign of Cerberus turning to support the Reaper invasion, it makes sense to eliminate the one location that could potentially unite the Terminus under a single banner.

That being said, I'm not sure what exactly is happening here. Was releasing these creatures the plan? Did they take out Cerberus on the other side of the Omega 4 Relay? Did they break loose while being transferred?

I also don't think it's fair to say that Bioware is trying to make Cerberus look incompetent. If Cerberus is doing things right, we're not supposed to be able to point them out as the cause of an event. They're supposed to be operating discreetly. They could have hundreds of successful missons we don't know about because they were successful with them.

Dave of Canada wrote...
If I were to hazard a guess, something to do with Retribution's ending. Either TIM wants to be the only one with the intel on indoctrination or he realized Aria screwed him over. Kai Leng is involved in the events of Invasion too.

Refresh my memory for a minute, how did Aria screw TIM over exactly? They seemed to have reconciled at the end of Retribution. Didn't TIM buy her off or something?

Modifié par NPH11, 09 octobre 2011 - 09:06 .