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[ShepardOsiris]

Thanks for the update Ms Domino. As I said earlier, acid free poly bags and backing boards are not that expensive for books in that size range, they provide excellent protection during shipping and for customer storage. Ideal situation would be to combine that with air bags or bubble wrap. Also critical is box size, too often Treehouse seems to use any size box in any condition they can find. A properly sized box drastically limits the amount of bouncing around and therefore potential corner damage and so on to the book.

As Ultor84 said shrink wrap to a cardboard backing with again airbags or bubble wrap is acceptable. However care needs to be taken with shrinkwrapping because if it's not used properly, it can damage both the corners and jacket of the book if used without a poybag, and possible even warp the spine depending on the binding.

I would also agree that 1,500 are way too many for a CE that already has two unlimited versions available. Half that much would have been better, especially if they are priced as high as we are expecting. Are these books going to be individually numbered (#1, #2, etc), series numbered (just a stamp saying 1 of 1,500) or will they even be numbered at all?

[TheKingBoar]

I agree with Shep on packaging, I'd really like to get this without having the corners damaged, which something even Amazon can't seem to figure out. As with everyone else, I'd rather pay for the packaging and have it get to me in perfect shape.

At the same time, I have to disagree about the print numbers. Many "Limited Edition" hardcover guides for games far less popular than ME come with print runs in the 15 thousands, so 15 hundred doesn't seem that bad. At least everyone that wants one has a decent chance at getting one. I guess the price will make an impact, but I don't see BioWare going the $300 dollar route. If so, then yeah, too high of a print run.

[AlphaJarmel]

All I want is quality in regards to production materials. It's obviously not going to be as nice as Ballistic but that should be goal. 1500 for the CE is pretty high if there is a significant price boost over the other versions.

Editado por AlphaJarmel, 14 octubre 2011 - 07:33 .

[DukeOfNukes]

I think people get to wrapped up in the exclusivity of certain items...frankly it's kind of ticking me off. It's ART. You should be buying it because you like it...because it's creative expression...not buying it so that someone else can't have it. Whether the CE is worth buying or not, it's not gonna be the result of how many they produce. It's going to be a simple "value vs cost"...where value is NOT defined by rarity.

[ShepardOsiris]

DukeOfNukes wrote...

I think people get to wrapped up in the exclusivity of certain items...frankly it's kind of ticking me off. It's ART. You should be buying it because you like it...because it's creative expression...not buying it so that someone else can't have it. Whether the CE is worth buying or not, it's not gonna be the result of how many they produce. It's going to be a simple "value vs cost"...where value is NOT defined by rarity.

   Look, we are all interested in the art, and that is the primary reason for interest in the artbook, I don't think anyone is specifically looking at it based solely on how rare it is.  That said, you do understand the idea of a "Collector's Edition", don't you? The entire concept is for it to be collectible and like it or not, a large part of that factor is it's limited availability.  If the "creative expression" is the only thing that you care about, then buy the standard edition, be happy, and enjoy it. 

   I think for many of us that are interested in the print run size, it's a matter of "is it limited enough to make it worth buying the CE from Treehouse?"  The fact is, going by Treehouse's past pricing of things, one would expect them to likely carry the standard edition of the artbook for MSRP  or $39.99, plus another say $10 for domestic shipping.  That's almost double what Amazon is carrying the exact same artbook for (assuming free Prime or Super Saver Shipping), and more than several other retailers, minus a slip cover. That's been the case with virtually every item Treehouse carries that other retailers do as well.  Whether you like the art or not plays absolutely no role in that decision, because it's the exact same artbook, it comes down to if a slip cover is worth it to pay double and suffer Treehouse's horrible handling of books.   

   The CE situation is much the same way, your only getting variant packaging, and a handful of comic art as a bonus, so the "Art" is largely the same again and plays little to no factor.  Your looking at a couple extras, but also assuming a $10 or even $20 price hike, possibly up to triple the cost of buying largely the same art at Amazon or another retailer.  So again, it all comes down to, "Is the collectible status of this version worth that extra cost and suffering the packaging issues?"  Having a rare item that is signed or at least numbered and of a low enough quanitity that demand exceeds supply is a major factor in answering that question.  

   For example, to my knowledge, Treehouse has only sold around 600 of the ME 2 hardcover artbook, of the 2000 printed, that's in 18 months of being on the site.   Granted it's an inferior book, but the only other way of attaining it, was to buy the game's CE.  1500 copies of a CE book that is being sold alongside a largely identical version of near unlimited quanity that is also being sold at many other retailers at a more competive price, is a lot of copies.  Whether or not you care about these issues or not, they are legitimate concerns and deciding factors for many.   

Editado por ShepardOsiris, 15 octubre 2011 - 10:28 .

[Ghost GBR]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[DukeOfNukes]

You're saying "is it worth the price"...I fail to see how availability changes that. If it's a piece of junk that costs 100 bucks and they only make 20 copies...would want it more than if they made 2000?

There are things out there that are worth paying extra for exclusivity. Box seats at a sporting event, individual art pieces, LE cars, a rare edition comic, etc...but a slipcover on a mass produced art book? Is it hand signed? Is there something substantially "Better" about this? or is it just a slipcover with a difference piece of art?

[kidbd15]

$80... tooooo steep

[Janus Prospero]

Here is the link without commentary:

http://biowarestore....lectors-edition

[Dan Matrix]

Considering I have the normal version ordered elsewhere for $27 including shipping, $80 is just crazy. Your paying $40 for the extras when you consider the regular edition is $40 retail.

[tj987654321]

I thought that the $80 price remark was a joke... Holy s*** that's expensive!

[True Heresy]

So I ordered it - extra $20 to ship to the UK... that's just bloody mean, I have all the mini lithos and everything. I think they should have a loyalty reduced shipping rate but that's just because I pay so much...
Excited.

[DukeOfNukes]

26.12 from Amazon, 31.99 from TFAW, or 80 + shipping from THBS. Wow...umm...that's some kind of dust jacket...

Can we get some more information? What makes this worth 2 or even 3 times the price of the regular version? "clamshell" jacket isn't very descriptive...neither is "art of the comic books"...comic books are art, what makes it different from the art IN the comic book?

Editado por DukeOfNukes, 04 noviembre 2011 - 11:21 .

[BeanieBat]

$22.72 is a lot for shipping (and a rather weird price) and it puts it over $100... as much as I'd like to see the art of the comics section, I don't think I can justify paying that much. Guess I'll sleep on it...

[ShepardOsiris]

Whoever priced this thing, needs to have their head examined. Since when is Clamshell packaging (I don't care how unique it is) a major selling point? 24 measely pages of comic art added to an already less than spectacular page count, and a huge production run size for a CE of 1500, and that justifies doubling the price? Not in the mind of someone who collect's these types of things regularly, what's being presented as the Collector's part of the book is worth a $10 premium, 20 at best.

It wouldn't be as bad if Treehouse understood that there is MSRP and then there is reasonable market value. Nobody charges MSRP except Treehouse, TFAW is Dark Horse publishing's official retailer, and even they don't charge MSRP, %20 under MSRP in fact for preorders. Amazon's price on the standard edition may be unapproachable for a smaller retailer like Treehouse, but charging full MSRP is just ridiculous, few that spend their own money would think it worth it or acceptable to pay triple the cost ($90+ with shipping vs under $30 for standard version at Amazon) for 24 pages of comic art and clamshell covering.

If you do pass on this, I wouldn't fret too much, with a massive production run of 1,500 pieces, and that ridiculous price, this will likely be around for a good long while, probably at significantly reduced prices after a while too.

[NamiraWilhelm]

omg are you serious? 80 bucks? Im not going to 'shell' out for that (shut up i couldnt resist)

Yup, giving that a miss.

[CmdrShepardsGirl]

NamiraWilhelm wrote...

Just spotted this on Amazon

LOL! WOOT! =D I pre ordered this the other day =D I din't even know they were bringing another one out =O 

Editado por CmdrShepardsGirl, 05 noviembre 2011 - 08:46 .

[NamiraWilhelm]

i might follow your footsteps and go for one on amazon lol

[CmdrShepardsGirl]

LOL! =D even that one was too expensive for me hahaha =D

[DukeOfNukes]

Any word on what makes this worth 3 times the price we can get it from other retailers?

Come on, BioWare store...you really need to have somebody there with some sales experience. Someone who can paint a picture, where me and my 80$ version of the art book will live happily ever after.

[TheKingBoar]

I hate to say this, but I went Amazon on this. I'd consider getting the Bioware version, but three crappy pictures on the store are not going to get me to shell out $60 extra bucks. I'd better see a high def video about it to do that.

[ME_Fan]

Ms Domino wrote...

We are still in production on the Clamshell case, and trust me AS SOON as I have photos of the actual product you guys will be the first to see them. Promise.

We kind of had to put it out there, though, as it was already all over the interwebs.

Any idea though as to when the standard edition with special cover will be available?

[Galford24]

The Art of the Mass Effect Universe: Collector's Edition is 80$ and 1,500 are available.
http://biowarestore....lectors-edition

The Art of the Mass Effect Universe with custom designed slipcover is 40$ and limited to "only" 1,000.
(BTW the slipcover looks great)
http://biowarestore....effect-universe

Shouldn't it be the other way round? I mean CE stands for Collector's Edition, so i think a CE (especially if it is more expensive) should be the one edition that is most limited in quantity.

And i don't understand why they think that the differences between both versions are actually worth 40$.

Editado por Galford24, 17 noviembre 2011 - 12:35 .

[Mims]

I've spent a lot of money on artbooks over the years, but eighty is really steep. I'll happily spend eighty or more for hard to find books. Eighty is usually the cost of a book that's out of print, not a preorder.

I'm just not sure what about this determines the eighty dollar price tag. The only thing I see is the comicbook art. Which if you already own some of the comic books, [including the special editions of said comics], you probably already have what will be in the book.

It could at least have a bookplate with a signature, or something.