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Why I dislike high heels. (The s*xualisation of women in Mass Effect)


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I noticed in ME2 Miranda would go into battle with high heels, I found this laughable. Not only would a real female soldier not go into battle with high heels, but if Miranda were real I don't think she would either.

you lost me at the underlined part.

First of all, if Miranda were real, she'd be a celebrity. The first human born without the use of sexual reproduction. She'd also not be a soldier, because in our time ther's no such thing as Biotics (yet) so she'd just have her intelligence andI doubt the governement she'd work for would waste sucha  specimen on petty military stuff (or who knows they'd grow more of her and create an army if it was cost effective) Miranda wore heelsinto battle because she could andit didn't effect her performance one bit. She's still the ebst squadmate in the series with skin tight armor, untied hair and high heels. Shecould be in a Bikini for all Ic are as long as she's still littering the floor with corpses and lighting up battlefields with her tech and biotic powers.

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WHY THE HELL IS THE WORD "SEXUALIZATION" CENSORED?

Seriously, you guys? BW isn't that sensitive! OP, change that!

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100k wrote...

WHY THE HELL IS THE WORD "SEXUALIZATION" CENSORED?

Seriously, you guys? BW isn't that sensitive! OP, change that!


Because sex is a swear word. :happy:

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100k wrote...

WHY THE HELL IS THE WORD "SEXUALIZATION" CENSORED?

Seriously, you guys? BW isn't that sensitive! OP, change that!


Believe it or not, my family actually is.

It's a good thing they don't own this forum.

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Dear god, how do you guys live? Sex. Penis. Vagina. Breasts.

What if one of your sisters got breast cancer? Would she say "I got...cancer in a very bad place", while your parents glare at her, silently daring her to utter that word?

lolz

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

I think sexualization is okay as long as it fits the character that's being sexualized, or if it's a plot device.

I think that's the difference between Miranda and Isabela.

Isabela having no pants and giant ****** works because she's an over-the-top sex beast.

Miranda... is an all-business ice queen who, although willing to use her looks to get what she wants, wants to be taken seriously.  Really weird character/design disconnect.

Thankfully, there was enough lampshade hanging (Eclipse merc/Kenneth's commentary) for me to forgive Bioware... for now.  Do it again, and they get a paddlin'.


Seeing as we've never heard Miranda complaining about her outfit I would personally assume she's content with it. Also, I've never understood why everyone sees her as an overly-sexualised person. Personally I find her as sexually enticing as a popsickle.
During the majority of the game she never does anything to make herself seem "available" to any man. There is no strutting, no stroking of the gun barrel and no batting of eyelashes. She is perfectly content doing what she does best, completing the mission she was assigned to, either on the battlefield or behind a desk. She will only make the moves on Shepard when she has realized that he is appropriate bonding material. That does not qualify as a sexualised woman in my book.
Seeing as she has had no mother figure in her life, one could say her choice in fashion may be a result of her never having a proper role model to teach her how to properly dress herself.  

Cheez, on discussions of Ashley's new look (which I don't like either) you have on several occasions stated that it was Ashley as a character that made her sexy, not what she wore or looked like. This has certainly been proven through both Garrus and Tali. I myself as a straight man has fallen into the Zevran romance in DAO just because of his easy going attitude. 
This is why I fail to see how Ashley's new look will compromise her and make her just another piece of eye candy for us hormone-driven, deprived young men who needs a ******-fest to get through the game. 
Those of  us who know Ashley will find her attractive/unattractive no matter what she wear, heels be damned. 

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100k wrote...

Dear god, how do you guys live? Sex. Penis. Vagina. Breasts.

What if one of your sisters got breast cancer? Would she say "I got...cancer in a very bad place", while your parents glare at her, silently daring her to utter that word?

lolz


LOL I found that really funny because my sister has such huge breasts and she feels really funny saying breasts!


:lol:
:mellow:
:blink:

Not that I would know....

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Basically, Miranda needs to be modeled after Aeryn Sun.

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This is just like all of the other 'anti-anything' threads. Is it illegal for women to wear high heals? Some women love high heels. Some women don't. Just because someone wears them doesn't mean that they are sex machines. What's the big deal?

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Eyerock wrote...

Seeing as we've never heard Miranda complaining about her outfit I would personally assume she's content with it. Also, I've never understood why everyone sees her as an overly-sexualised person. Personally I find her as sexually enticing as a popsickle.

Good for you.  I didn't really find her incredibly hot, either (she was too fake-looking for me), but the problem is that her appearance and those blasted camera angles were pretty much trying to force me into thinking she was sexy.  Which is a problem because...

During the majority of the game she never does anything to make herself seem "available" to any man. There is no strutting, no stroking of the gun barrel and no batting of eyelashes. She is perfectly content doing what she does best, completing the mission she was assigned to, either on the battlefield or behind a desk. She will only make the moves on Shepard when she has realized that he is appropriate bonding material. That does not qualify as a sexualised woman in my book.

Precisely.  There's the disconnect.  Miranda, as a character, is not a tramp.  So why must the game constantly flash me with images of camel-toe?  I know that one shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but this is like taking a serious novel, ripping off its cover, and disguising it as a paltry harlequin romance.  Now, you may like the subversion, and revel in the surprise of, hey, there's a great character under all that silicone and latex, but ultimately I think it does Miranda a disservice.  Characters in video games rely strongly on their visual design to communicate who they are, and every feature and trinket should say something about their past or personality.

Jacob has this problem, too, but the poor bastard gets bashed so much that I'm going to leave him alone for now.

Seeing as she has had no mother figure in her life, one could say her choice in fashion may be a result of her never having a proper role model to teach her how to properly dress herself.

That's kind of a weird excuse and makes her dad, like, 100% creepier.

Cheez, on discussions of Ashley's new look (which I don't like either) you have on several occasions stated that it was Ashley as a character that made her sexy, not what she wore or looked like. This has certainly been proven through both Garrus and Tali. I myself as a straight man has fallen into the Zevran romance in DAO just because of his easy going attitude.

Which was kind of my point: People fall in love with characters for more than just their looks.

To quote myself: A strong, beautiful, smart, and ruthlessly determined woman is sexy by default.  Why cheapen her character with a sexed-up outfit and stupid camera angles?

This is why I fail to see how Ashley's new look will compromise her and make her just another piece of eye candy for us hormone-driven, deprived young men who needs a ******-fest to get through the game.

Because it runs contrary to her character.  She said outright that she wouldn't wear something like that.  It'd be like a character that said shields are for chums having the most powerful shields in the game.

Those of  us who know Ashley will find her attractive/unattractive no matter what she wear, heels be damned.

Of course, but what about the ones that don't?  What about the people that didn't play ME1 or 2 and hardly know anything about her?

A cover doesn't have to tell you absolutely everything about the book, but it at least should get the damn title right.

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Chino 281 wrote...

This is just like all of the other 'anti-anything' threads. Is it illegal for women to wear high heals? Some women love high heels. Some women don't. Just because someone wears them doesn't mean that they are sex machines. What's the big deal?


The big deal is the setting. So imagine that you are playing need for speed and you are given a Chevrolet Astro to race against a Porshe Carrera Gt. And you would be like wth? That's stupid. But then people are going to start saying: But that Chevrolet was super modefied it is actually really fast! I'm sure it can be fast, but it will still look silly, always.

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Chino 281 wrote...

This is just like all of the other 'anti-anything' threads. Is it illegal for women to wear high heals? Some women love high heels. Some women don't. Just because someone wears them doesn't mean that they are sex machines. What's the big deal?


High-heels.

Battlefield.

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sex... is sex a dirty word? We're not allowed to use the word "sex"?
Do we have to act like 6 year old, giggling and looking away when people kiss on the street and put * into word sex when writing it?

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

sex... is sex a dirty word? We're not allowed to use the word "sex"?


Yes! Please stop swearing! S*x is a bad word... =]

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Chewin3 wrote...

IEatWhatIPoo wrote...
..Garrus crotch shot while we decide on his mission?

"Shepard, eyes up here."


You can't resist it.

<imgsnip>


I can see forever

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100k wrote...

Dear god, how do you guys live? Sex. Penis. Vagina. Breasts.


I know several women who could easily outdo me in that sort of thinking.

And what is it that is so bad about Ashley's new outfit..it seems rather ..well normal to me..like a female version of Jacobs outfit just in different colors.. hell most of the female star trek uniforms are far more revealing without being ****ty.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

sex... is sex a dirty word? We're not allowed to use the word "sex"?
Do we have to act like 6 year old, giggling and looking away when people kiss on the street and put * into word sex when writing it?


Because sex is something... hihi natural :o Oh my... I said it

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I never really bother to count how many times the butts / heels were flashed, they were just annoying illogical images (especially more so for someone expressing anger / hurt, etc)  but then I'm mostly focused on Shep, but I'm starting to take notet how many times they came up. Image IPBImage IPBImage IPB  

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When I seen this thread I was like

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EDIT: Miranda was made to be perfect. 
In this world its stupid to wear heels in combat. In there world its alright to wear heels in combat.

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Chino 281 wrote...

This is just like all of the other 'anti-anything' threads. Is it illegal for women to wear high heals? Some women love high heels. Some women don't. Just because someone wears them doesn't mean that they are sex machines. What's the big deal?

In Battle?....:huh:....Ummm yeah, there are women who love high heels...but in Battle?...:blink:...I have worked in Nursing Homes and have seen many times what a life time of high heels do to feet, is not pretty...takes the idea on heels in Battle way beyond ridiculous...absolutley ludicrous is more like it....Maybe all the men in ME can run around shirtless then?...As a woman, that would work for me...:devil:...would do a lot more for me than watching Miranda's dental flossed ass.

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...
And what is it that is so bad about Ashley's new outfit..it seems rather ..well normal to me..like a female version of Jacobs outfit just in different colors.. hell most of the female star trek uniforms are far more revealing without being ****ty.


OMIGOSH! NO WAY! But you don't understand! Star Trek is some low sc-fi while MINE Mass Effect is enlighted storytelling masterpiece for intellectual elites suchs a myself! I demand realism p! Lé hurrr lé durrr!

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I like big butts, I cannot lie.

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You know what I dislike? Incredibly much? All of the retardedly-titled threads like this one, where the poster seems like they're trying to present their community college senior thesis.

Here let me try one. Lipstick and Hand Grenades: Hot Chicks Kicking Ass In Videogames Because They're Videogames And That's Awesome So Get Over It. How's that? Do I get my Associates?

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King Minos wrote...
I like big butts, I cannot lie.

Ze booty?

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

Anacronian Stryx wrote...
And what is it that is so bad about Ashley's new outfit..it seems rather ..well normal to me..like a female version of Jacobs outfit just in different colors.. hell most of the female star trek uniforms are far more revealing without being ****ty.


OMIGOSH! NO WAY! But you don't understand! Star Trek is some low sc-fi while MINE Mass Effect is enlighted storytelling masterpiece for intellectual elites suchs a myself! I demand realism p! Lé hurrr lé durrr!



But ..but she will be wearing armor in battle..and when she's in her spandex outfit she even got a small skirt to cover her ass so she won't be Miranda point 2...what more do you want??

P:S that's some nice durrrr'ing you got going there..keep it up for humanity's sake.Image IPB

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