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[Dean_the_Young]

The root of all evil in this universe, or at least the source of all obstacles, nearly always comes from 'politics.'

'Politics' is the dirty word in the history of this galaxy, even more than 'Reapers.' If it weren't for 'politics', after all, we'd all do the blatantly obvious thing and join forces against the Reapers... and all those other pesky problems that take clear-thinking, straight-talking, honest (military) types to resolve simply and effectively. If a soldier-type can't solve a problem, it's because politicians are holding him or her back from doing their job.... and if a politician actually does something good, it's because a military type pushed them to it.

Just think about it, ladies and gentlemen. How often have you had to go out of your way to get the tools you need to do you job, simply because the damn bureacrats only gave you star charts from 2183? How often has it been the politicians holding you back from solving your problems, and how many times has it been politicians who cause them in the first place, and then refuse to acknowledge them? Ilos, Horizon, any time 'the Terminus' has been raised.

Hell, the only reason we stand to lose the war against the Reapers is because the damn dumb bureacrats have stuck their head in the sand for the past few years, rather than building weapons.

Who recognizes problems? Who solves them? Who gets things done? Military types do, that's who. Politicians refused to recognize the dangers of Saren? It took a military ship willing to mutiny in order to beat him. The Krogan threaten to surpass the genophage? The STG, not politicians, solve the problem. The Rachni overrun the borders? It took soldiers, not 'statemen' to stop them. And just who does a better job at managing piracy: Turian patrols, or Asari 'soft power'?

History is clear. To solve galactic problems, it isn't 'politics' that have succeded. 'Politics' is the problem. You want something solved, ask a good soldier.

Eveyone else? The rulers, the civilians who rule these fine military men and women?

They're useless, nearly treasonously so. All of them. The Council doesn't want to admit there's a problem, and is too afraid to move. The Asari are decadent democracies, content in their veneer of civility even as they alone on the Council continue slavery, unwilling to face facts of galactic society and militarize. The Salarian daltrasses play their intrigue, and leave the real work to the woefully undersized STG. And let's not start on the Alliance parliament, with bigots and corporate-interests calling the shots.

There's only one species that even somewhat does it right: the Turians, where citizenship is measured in the merit of blood shed, years spent in service, and in which service is a precondition. The Heirarchy doesn't cause problems: it solves them. And the Heirarchy doesn't solve them by talking: the Heirarchy employs the only true problem-solvers of the Mass Effect galaxy, the military. They aren't afraid to do what it takes.

The Turians are strong because not only they are willing to bomb their foes back into the stone age, but because after then they annex the defeated, incorporate them, raise them into something of value as new soldiers for the Turian imperialism. And the galaxy will survive the Reapers, IF it survives the Reapers, because of that sort of strength. The galaxy needs more militaristic, imperialistic powers, not less.

The galaxy won't be saved by a Matriarch's philosophy, or a Daltrass's scheme. It will not be saved by the appeal of decadent democracies, or corporate greed.

The salvation of the galaxy will come from the barrel of a gun, a gun held by soldiers. We need that soldier. We need many of them.

The Council has failed. Democracy has failed. Communism has failed. Corporatism has failed. All the other methods have failed. There is only one effective form of power in this universe, and we need it.

Draft your politicians. Occupy your bureacrats. The galaxy needs strong leadership. Leadership with integrity, purpose, and ability, long held back by politics. We need a galaxy run by the military, for the military, and of the military, if we are to have any chance against the Reapers.

Fascists of the galaxy, unite!

[mango smoothie]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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You've been doing that alot today.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Fascism? Nah. But empire... lead by the Emperor of Mankind Shepard, I'd go for that.

Modifié par ReconTeam, 08 octobre 2011 - 09:44 .

[Dean_the_Young]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

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You've been doing that alot today.

it fits here, I think.

The series does read like something out of an old-timey pro-Fascist ideologue.

[Fixers0]

And the point is?

also it is:

Proletarians of all countries, unite.

[lovgreno]

Have you read Starship Troopers by R A Heinlen? It's realy funny.

[Dean_the_Young]

Fixers0 wrote...

And the point is?

That autocratic, militaristic leadership is the only successful sort in the Mass Effect universe.

also it is:

Proletarians of all countries, unite.

Nah, communists don't thrive in the Mass Effect universe.

[lovgreno]

Dean_the_Young wrote...Nah, communists don't thrive in the Mass Effect universe.

To me it seems like the geth are doing quite well.

[Dean_the_Young]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
The series does read like something out of an old-timey pro-Fascist ideologue.

Well I wouldn't know, but Shep does spend quite a bit of timne depending on the authorities/corporations.

However, at the end of each game, he does basically give them the finger...

Fascism is quite accepting of corporation that toe the government's line. Corporations have their place... and one of distinct subservience to the state. 

Note that the 'good' corporations in Mass Effect are good while they comfortably mesh with the military's (Shepard's) goals, and become 'evil' whenever they are not.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Let me be the first to say it:

[Dean_the_Young]

lovgreno wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...Nah, communists don't thrive in the Mass Effect universe.

To me it seems like the geth are doing quite well.

Geth aren't...

Bah, I guess you're right, though the Geth defy conventional economic classification.


Organic communism doesn't thrive in the Mass Effect universe.

[BatmanPWNS]

So................. what do you gonna do about it?

[Hathur]

Odd, this came to mind when I read the op.

[Chewin]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
History is clear. To solve galactic problems, it isn't 'politics' that have succeded. 'Politics' is the problem. You want something solved, ask a good soldier.

This is in fact one disappointment in ME for me. Just as you said in your post, every race seem to have come down to the concluson that them one with the bigger gun gets the prize. And pretty much every galactic conflict we've heared about has been concluded with the aid of fire arms. Sometimes It feels like developers doesn't want it to get to complicated so they put just something overly primitive way for people to understand the importance on the matter, like all out war, good vs. evil, evil must be stopped b/c they are evil.

That's why I respect more games like The Witcher with it's political views.

[Dean_the_Young]

BatmanPWNS wrote...

So................. what do you gonna do about it?

Military coup of the Council, of course.

[AdmiralCheez]

So how many beers does it take to get to the center of a Dean thread?

(I'm laughing really hard at this right now, because as insane as it is, it actually makes sense.)

[Someone With Mass]

Name one politician that isn't considered an assh*le by anyone.

[Dean_the_Young]

Chewin3 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...
History is clear. To solve galactic problems, it isn't 'politics' that have succeded. 'Politics' is the problem. You want something solved, ask a good soldier.

This is in fact one disappointment in ME for me. Just as you said in your post, every race seem to have come down to the concluson that them one with the bigger gun gets the prize. And pretty much every galactic conflict we've heared about has been concluded with the aid of fire arms. Sometimes It feels like developers doesn't want it to get to complicated so they put just something overly primitive way for people to understand the importance on the matter, like all out war, good vs. evil, evil must be stopped b/c they are evil.

That's why I respect more games like The Witcher with it's political views.

I agree that it doesn't get much more basic than 'military characters = good and noble with rare exception, politicians = useless counterproductive sleazebags.'

I'd blame it on an American cultural romanticism of the military, and overall militarization of US culture, if Bioware weren't Canadian.

[Izhalezan]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Name one politician that isn't considered an assh*le by anyone.

President McAwesome, he lives in my brain and he recently passed a resolution to eat more Ramen. Awesome guy imho.

[mango smoothie]

      Throughout history it's not specifically military that goes in and saves the day it's certain people. Some examples Paul Revere he was not military, but he help start the American Revolution. Charlie Wilson a politician single handly brought down the Soviet Union using politics. So it's not military it's certain people, some turn out to be military people, but not all. In fact most of the time when military takes complete control and deals with the problem themselves it turns the goverment into a dictatorship/police state.    

[Inquisitor Recon]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
I'd blame it on an American cultural romanticism of the military, and overall militarization of US culture, if Bioware weren't Canadian.

Are you serious? If anything not enough people pay attention to what's going on over in where we're fighting.

[lovgreno]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

BatmanPWNS wrote...

So................. what do you gonna do about it?

Military coup of the Council, of course.

Meanwhile I join the Geths galactic socialist revolution. This leads to a cold war and arms race. Said stockpiles of doomsday weapons can then be used to beat the reapers. How is that for a plan? Well okay there is of course a risk that we destroy eachother before the reapers even get here but no plan is perfect.