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[jlb524]

D.Kain wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'm totally different.  I like when an LI has motivations that extend beyond the PC.   I want them to have principles and I want them to hate me if I don't share them.

My fave BW LIs are:  Liara (who has her Shadow Broker thing that puts Shepard on the back burner), Jaheira (with her loyalty to the Harpers) and Merrill (who is ultimately loyal to her Dalish heritage).  I like it when they care about something that's beyond themselves.

Yes, fair enough. I am just that ''romantic''. I myself never let any choices in the game overshadow my LI, so I expect the same in return.  

No, I understand...that's why we have choices for LIs....it's a good thing as we have different preferences XD

[DaeJi]

Abispa wrote...

I suppose Jacob is boring because he doesn't need Shepard to hold his hand and help him find his self esteem, nor does he spend the cut scenes gushing over her. He even has the audacity to play hard to get even though Hale, for some reason, acted out her "talk for a bit" line like she was in heat.

From what I've gathered many people find Jacob dull because he really didn't have much to talk about. Little about his past adventure, even less about his work with Cerberus, he felt more like a work friend than a true mate.

[Abispa]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Obsession, clinging, cheating, constantly looking for advice, not challenging (no conflicting opinions will make the relationship stale).

And don't forget to spice things up with gifts. That'll make the LI bed you no matter how much s/he hates your guts.

[AdmiralCheez]

A major turn-off for me is when they are all like HEY I LOVE YOU LOTS LET'S SEX. This made me initially shy away from Liara and Kaidan in ME1 and Tali in ME2. Jacob kind of suffered from this in reverse (THANKS FemShep), which sucks because he's a decent guy.

A character telling me they don't want me to get to know them better is also a turn-off. Jacob did this, and Jack does it to an extent (but mostly to FemShep).

Awkward moments, like Ash's poetry and Garrus' poor taste in romantic music, may be clamjams when I first run into them, but afterwards I consider that sort of thing to be funny and endearing. However, sometimes awkward takes a turn for the freaky (Thane's flashbacks) and I run and hide.

Granted, these are all just initial turn-offs. I can compensate for and get around them, and I like all the potential LIs enough to want to test out their romantic subplots.

Garrus and Miranda were actually the easiest and most natural for me. Garrus because I'm an irredeemable fangirl to begin with, and Miranda because the renegade flirting fit perfectly with the personality I'd created for my DudeShep.

I think that's the biggest impediment to picking an LI for me: I can't do it if it's out of character for my current Shepard. I simply haven't come up with a Shep that would fit Thane, Tali, or Jack yet. Poor Kaidan got really close, but I decided to nuke him in that playthrough because of my epic sismance with Ash, and I might go for Jacob this time around because this particular FemShep likes people who are calm, competent, and speak their minds. Being a hunk helps.

Modifié par AdmiralCheez, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:42 .

[DaeJi]

Abispa wrote...


And don't forget to spice things up with gifts. That'll make the LI bed you no matter how much s/he hates your guts.

Maybe if the gifts were beer.

[Abispa]

DaeJi wrote...

Abispa wrote...

I suppose Jacob is boring because he doesn't need Shepard to hold his hand and help him find his self esteem, nor does he spend the cut scenes gushing over her. He even has the audacity to play hard to get even though Hale, for some reason, acted out her "talk for a bit" line like she was in heat.

From what I've gathered many people find Jacob dull because he really didn't have much to talk about. Little about his past adventure, even less about his work with Cerberus, he felt more like a work friend than a true mate.

Garrus has not interest in Shepard at all unless she tells him to be. Kaidan starts off drooling over Shepard. Thane will sleep with Shepard if she's willing to listen to him talk about his wife in flashback. None of the LIs in ME are perfect, but who is a "true man"?

[Golden Owl]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Obsession, clinging, cheating, constantly looking for advice, not challenging (no conflicting opinions will make the relationship stale).

I have heard that Thane will challenge renegade response Shep.

[D.Kain]

Abispa wrote...

Garrus has not interest in Shepard at all unless she tells him to be. Kaidan starts off drooling over Shepard. Thane will sleep with Shepard if she's willing to listen to him talk about his wife in flashback. None of the LIs in ME are perfect, but who is a "true man"?

I could tell you who is the true man if I knew what it was. :happy:

[Abispa]

Golden Owl wrote...

Mi-Chan wrote...

Obsession, clinging, cheating, constantly looking for advice, not challenging (no conflicting opinions will make the relationship stale).

I have heard that Thane will challenge renegade response Shep.

Maybe he'd like some slightly used cake as a gift that Urz found for me somewhere.

[DaeJi]

Abispa wrote...



Garrus has not interest in Shepard at all unless she tells him to be. Kaidan starts off drooling over Shepard. Thane will sleep with Shepard if she's willing to listen to him talk about his wife in flashback. None of the LIs in ME are perfect, but who is a "true man"?

I put "mate", not "man." I personally never felt that that Jacob was really the kind of friend to Shepard that the other squadmates were, or even NPCs like Joker, Kelly and Dr. Chakwas. From what I've seen of reactions to Jacob, I may not be alone thinking this.

And to answer you question, Wrex.

[D.Kain]

Mi-Chan wrote...

Obsession, clinging, cheating, constantly looking for advice, not challenging (no conflicting opinions will make the relationship stale).

Without some sort of obsession and clinging - cheating happens. Note that obsession and clinging don't have to mean that a person needs you, it's about want. Looking for advice can be done without following the advice. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:52 .

[syllogi]

I don't mind hearing that the LI had past lovers. I don't need and probably do not want some blushing, innocent virgin. However, I don't care for having my character compared to the past lover, and if the LI only shares the story of their past romance, and no other personal information about themselves, I am repelled.

I like independence and fire, especially in female LIs. Women who are dominant and forceful are a huge turn on, ones who are falling all over the main character and have no personality outside of loving the big strong hero, not so much.

And aliens that are *too* alien are a turn off. Even DA2 elves are stretching it, even though I find Fenris and Merrill attractive. If I can't imagine what's going on underneath the clothes, I really have no interest in make believe romances with that species.

Modifié par TeenZombie, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:52 .

[jlb524]

DaeJi wrote...

I put "mate", not "man." I personally never felt that that Jacob was really the kind of friend to Shepard that the other squadmates were, or even NPCs like Joker, Kelly and Dr. Chakwas. From what I've seen of reactions to Jacob, I may not be alone thinking this.

And to answer you question, Wrex.

Jacob can feel like a friend (with FemShep) if you get through all the awkward forced flirting and finish off his dialog tree (IMO).

TeenZombie wrote...

I like independence and fire, especially in female LIs. Women who are dominant and forceful are a huge turn on, ones who are falling all over the main character and have no personality outside of loving the big strong hero, not so much.

Like who?

Modifié par jlb524, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:56 .

[SandTrout]

@JLB,

Ashley would fall under that category, IMO, as would Miranda and Morrigan.

[D.Kain]

TeenZombie wrote...

I don't mind hearing that the LI had past lovers. I don't need and probably do not want some blushing, innocent virgin. However, I don't care for having my character compared to the past lover, and if the LI only shares the story of their past romance, and no other personal information about themselves, I am repelled.

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Ah, a popular stereotype, and probably even true for the most part. But I myself knew a few not so innocent, attractive virgins that didn't blush at all, and just didn't find what they liked yet, and just didn't go for random relationships. 
I'd have to say that such people are a turn on imo. :happy:

[CoffeeHolic93]

D.Kain wrote...


Without some sort of obsession and clinging - cheating happens. Note that obsession and clinging don't have to mean that a person needs you, it's about want. Looking for advice can be done without following the advice. 

Note that is was theory-crafting as I've never been in a relationship myself.  But I was talking about obsession to the point where s/he can't live without His/her significant other

[DaeJi]

D.Kain wrote...


Without some sort of obsession and clinging - cheating happens. Note that obsession and clinging don't have to mean that a person needs you, it's about want. Looking for advice can be done without following the advice. 

Attachment may be a better term to use than obsession.

[jlb524]

SandTrout wrote...

@JLB,

Ashley would fall under that category, IMO, as would Miranda and Morrigan.

Who doesn't fall under that category?

[D.Kain]

jlb524 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

@JLB,

Ashley would fall under that category, IMO, as would Miranda and Morrigan.

Who doesn't fall under that category?

We will never know, because we are playing a hero. 

Modifié par D.Kain, 09 octobre 2011 - 08:06 .

[jlb524]

D.Kain wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

SandTrout wrote...

@JLB,

Ashley would fall under that category, IMO, as would Miranda and Morrigan.

Who doesn't fall under that category?

We will never know, because we are playing a hero. 

True.

[D.Kain]

DaeJi wrote...

D.Kain wrote...


Without some sort of obsession and clinging - cheating happens. Note that obsession and clinging don't have to mean that a person needs you, it's about want. Looking for advice can be done without following the advice. 

Attachment may be a better term to use than obsession.

Obsession: a persistent disturbing preoccupation with an often unreasonable idea or feeling.

I'm not so sure. Love doesn't sound disturbing or unreasonable, and one probably shouldn't forget about it.

[Pockles]

DaeJi wrote...
I did, very much so. And you answer your implied question, no I will not help you to better understand bigotry, why the term doesn't actually fit Ashley even though her "human's first" mentality can lead to it, or how her subtle asides betray how uncomfortable she is at times around other species even if she feels no ill will towards them. My Shepard simply finds such nervousness a turn off and doesn't think that Ashley's reasons for it are solid.

There's no need to answer my question. It was rhetorical.

The reasons for prejudice are rarely solid. It involves forming broad opinions based on narrow perspective, which is inherently nonsensical.

I'm of the persuasion that even the most fair and reasonable people have their little prejudices. I like it when they aren't afraid to admit it. It reflects well on their character, and makes their personality more engaging.

Modifié par Pockles, 09 octobre 2011 - 08:14 .

[SandTrout]

Meh, someone can be loyal without being obsessed. Tending toward reasonable loyalty is a trait I value in a person. There is a balance between blind fanaticism and anti-social to be found.

[Lenimph]

1. Not being human
2. Complaining

[syllogi]

D.Kain wrote...

TeenZombie wrote...

I don't mind hearing that the LI had past lovers. I don't need and probably do not want some blushing, innocent virgin. However, I don't care for having my character compared to the past lover, and if the LI only shares the story of their past romance, and no other personal information about themselves, I am repelled.

.

Ah, a popular stereotype, and probably even true for the most part. But I myself knew a few not so innocent, attractive virgins that didn't blush at all, and just didn't find what they liked yet, and just didn't go for random relationships. 
I'd have to say that such people are a turn on imo. :happy:

If what you were talking about was actually portrayed in game romances, maybe I'd like them.

In my experience, people who don't wait for the perfect person or their soulmates to have sex can be just as special as a person who hasn't had any past relationships.  I'd rather be with someone who has some life experience, even if they were mistakes or bad luck, or, heavens forbid, they just had a string of positive, healthy relationships before they met me.