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[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

1.) Bad new art direction (modeling and animations)
2.) Inaccurate or utter lack of consequences and continuity of decisions or lore from DA:O
3.) Over-simplification of classes, combat and character choices (roleplay and skillsets)

[Reno_Tarshil]

Let's see 3 Details of what I disliked in DA2.

1.Lack of a Real Red Hair tint on the char. creator - Fixed due to a glorius mod as seen in my avatar.
2.DW Warriors - Fixed once again thanks to a mod that puts the DW tree for Warrior Hawke
3. I've got nothing really

So my dislikes were all fixed thanks to mods meaning I dont have any dislikes.

[dangeraaron]

1) Fixed Race. I loved being my Dwarf Noble, and I also liked my Elf Mage. And then they decided to force you to be a human. Not sure why, DA Dwarves are one of my favorite dwarves. They are so varied, yet traditional at the same time. But with DA3 introducing a completly new protagonist, hopefully the option to choose his or her race will be brought back.

2) No meaningful choices, fairely self explainatory, but I use the entirety of Act III and the ending as my examples.

3) One dimensional party members who never really talk to you or get to know you (or let you get to know them) UNLESS they want something from you. Sometimes I believe my 'followers' are just a bunch of moochers who are only around because Hawke is the 'Errand Boy of Kirkwall'. Seriously, over 10 years you'd expect they'd change as much or more so than DA:O party members...but no. At least in Origins you can change your party members' entire outlook on life itself at times, DA2 does not have this.

Those are my big 3, aside from the overly common reused areas and bugs and glitches galore. And more of a quibble on my part, they didn't include Ranger, Shapeshifter, and you couldn't use necromancy (i.e. raise the dead to fight for you). I mean, with this 'action combat' they got going on I thought they'd finally make use out of Shapeshifts...but they didn't include them at all.

Here's to hoping that this blend of DAO and DA2 that will become DA3 will be 99% Origins and 1%DA2.

Also, another minor thing to most, but big in my eyes.

The Darkspawn look like putties. They look so unintimidating it is not even funny. I understand you didn't want them to look too much like Orcs n' Goblins, but COME ON!!!!

[biomag]

1.  Those horrible class-restrictions for items/weapons/armors... horrible, horrible, horrible... old D&D-BS is back and it even got worse. Add the unclear stats and effects and you increase the whole equipment-mess.

2. Waves of enemies coming out of nowhere to make the game longer - cheap and boring and it looks stupid.

3. Animations... too much manga/anime too little solid fighting like DA:O had. I don't mind the cartoonish style or a little more dynamic moves than DA:O had, but teleporting rogues and high jumps in heavy plate armor look silly.



There are a few more things, but those were the major ones I absolutely can't stand

[Monica83]

1.) Bad new art direction (modeling and animations clownish design)
2.) Bad storyline whit the complete lack of choice that matter
3.) Over-simplification of RPG elements:
lack of customization choice
forced to be human
no non combattive skills
the retarded wheel with icons

[nightscrawl]

I'm not as drastic as some of the other posters on here. I quite enjoyed DA2 for the most part and my complaints are typical ones.

I mainly have a single complaint. I can live with everything else, but I've played DA2 about 10 times now and going into the same cave, house, warehouse, underground mine/tunnel is getting REALLY OLD.

I also really dislike the way the whole Orsino thing was handled, especially when playing a mage or siding with the mages. I feel like I was deprived of something by not being able to learn that he [blah blah spoiler] until I finally made a warrior who went with templars a few playthroughs later.

I have some other issues, but I can chalk those up mainly to being personal ones, or head canon related.

[Garden of Heaven]

Here goes:

1-Fake choices that have very little to no impact on game.
2-The dumbed down RPG elements, especially the fact that they removed the skill system.
3-Reused areas, too many reused areas in the game remove realism no matter how good the games graphics looks like.

Modifié par Garden of Heaven, 14 octobre 2011 - 10:29 .

[Brenden7]

Lets see....:

1) Romances: This I found dreafully boring! Pressing 3 heart icons for a romance seems awfully cold. I preferred the way DAO went about it - romancing (for example) Leliana has a certain charm about it

2) Combat: Ahhh... Almost every corner at night had a stupid battle to interupt my journey. It becomes far too tedious & boring. Wave combat just isn't for me either - I just couldn't wait for battles to end.

3) Decisions: Prior to DA2 coming out a completed a new game of DAO with specific choice which I wanted imported into the sequel. I was dissappointed that nothing seems to have played out.

[DarkSun522]

Brenden7 wrote...

Lets see....:

1) Romances: This I found dreafully boring! Pressing 3 heart icons for a romance seems awfully cold. I preferred the way DAO went about it - romancing (for example) Leliana has a certain charm about it

2) Combat: Ahhh... Almost every corner at night had a stupid battle to interupt my journey. It becomes far too tedious & boring. Wave combat just isn't for me either - I just couldn't wait for battles to end.

3) Decisions: Prior to DA2 coming out a completed a new game of DAO with specific choice which I wanted imported into the sequel. I was dissappointed that nothing seems to have played out.

I think it's funny when people say DA II had bad combat. Did they even play Origins?

[Garden of Heaven]

DarkSun522 wrote...

Brenden7 wrote...

Lets see....:

1) Romances: This I found dreafully boring! Pressing 3 heart icons for a romance seems awfully cold. I preferred the way DAO went about it - romancing (for example) Leliana has a certain charm about it

2) Combat: Ahhh... Almost every corner at night had a stupid battle to interupt my journey. It becomes far too tedious & boring. Wave combat just isn't for me either - I just couldn't wait for battles to end.

3) Decisions: Prior to DA2 coming out a completed a new game of DAO with specific choice which I wanted imported into the sequel. I was dissappointed that nothing seems to have played out.

I think it's funny when people say DA II had bad combat. Did they even play Origins?

While the faster pace and flashy spells made combat much more exciting, the wave system just destroyed it.

[ref]

1. Combat aimed for 15 year old Naruto/Call of Duty fanboys
2. Weak story
3. Weak characters and writing
4. Reused areas
5. Choices that change basically nothing
6. Kirkwall, the ghost town
7. Unlikable characters
8. Voiced protagonist
9. The "new" Anders
10. Stupid conversation wheel and paraphrasing
11. Worse art and graphic design (Origins vanilla looks better imo, Origins with texture mods blows it out of the water)
12. Can only be one race
13. "Hawke"
14. I'm depressed now

I could go on for hours, DA2 is just so dissapointing.

Modifié par Refara, 14 octobre 2011 - 06:49 .

[LeBurns]

Garden of Heaven wrote...

DarkSun522 wrote...

Brenden7 wrote...

Lets see....:

2) Combat: Ahhh... Almost every corner at night had a stupid battle to interupt my journey. It becomes far too tedious & boring. Wave combat just isn't for me either - I just couldn't wait for battles to end.

I think it's funny when people say DA II had bad combat. Did they even play Origins?

While the faster pace and flashy spells made combat much more exciting, the wave system just destroyed it.

It wasn't the waves for me it was just that it was so unrealistic.  In the demo I got so sick of it that I would stare at my feet and hit 'R', 'R', 'R' until the yelling stopped.  No tactics, no strategy, heck I didn't even need to look at the screen.  Worse combat I have ever seen in a game.

[whichwitch]

I don't usually post on these ....but

1) character interaction
2) feeling like I made no difference
3)same maps over and over

DAO I felt like I was playing a movie. Like or love my companions, I felt I knew them. Awakenings started the trend of the lack of interaction and DA2 continued it. The best thing about BIoware games is they make you feel like you are actually a part of the story, otherwise it is just another game. Dont get me wrong,  I really like the cutscenes and understand cost wise why they are limited, but why not also have the chat options we had in DAO to get to know our companions.  For those who think this is not an important problem, well there are lots of RPG style games who DON"T have companions and much interaction.  There are very few games who do this, and do it as well as Bioware.

[LeBurns]

Versago wrote...

If there is one thing DA II does right, it's the combat. There is no doubt that aspect of the game stands out.

I can only agree with that as it is something that people either hate with a passion or they love it.  It is very distinct and does stand out, good or bad, based on your opinion.

Personally I loved the slow and gritty and strategic and realistic combat of DAO.  In my opinion the combat in DA2 was very immature and show-boating nonsense.  That doesn't mean someone else can't love it, but I just don't.

[Aaleel]

1) Reused areas and an unchanging city. You stay in one city that never changes over 10 years, and when you do get to leave, you're forced into the same handful of areas over and over and over.

2) Combat. A wave here and there fine, some strategy involved. Several waves every fight, just got old and tedious after a while, to the point where I wished I could avoid it. Then aside from the city in the daytime, you couldn't get away from it. Then add people falling out the sky, through the ceiling, exploding bodies, people flipping and rolling around the screen, teleporting. It was just too much, and over the top.

3) I guess a tie between having to wait for a quest to actually be able to talk to my companions, and having choices where A & B both lead to C. If the outcome is already determined just do it and don't give me a choice.

[ref]

Versago wrote...

Refara wrote...

1. Combat aimed for 15 year old Naruto/Call of Duty fanboys
2. Weak story
3. Weak characters and writing
4. Reused areas
5. Choices that change basically nothing
6. Kirkwall, the ghost town
7. Unlikable characters
8. Voiced protagonist
9. The "new" Anders
10. Stupid conversation wheel and paraphrasing
11. Worse art and graphic design (Origins vanilla looks better imo, Origins with texture mods blows it out of the water)
12. Can only be one race
13. "Hawke"
14. I'm depressed now

I could go on for hours, DA2 is just so dissapointing.

OMG... more trolls on the forums. What else is new?

I guess when someone has an opinion that isn't the same as yours that makes them a troll?

[LeBurns]

Versago wrote...

LeBurns wrote...

Versago wrote...

If there is one thing DA II does right, it's the combat. There is no doubt that aspect of the game stands out.

I can only agree with that as it is something that people either hate with a passion or they love it.  It is very distinct and does stand out, good or bad, based on your opinion.

Personally I loved the slow and gritty and strategic and realistic combat of DAO.  In my opinion the combat in DA2 was very immature and show-boating nonsense.  That doesn't mean someone else can't love it, but I just don't.

You must've played Origins on the PC then.

Yes, yes I did.  Now that you mention it I can see how someone might enjoy the 'over the top' wild combat of DA2 on a large screen TV.

[Carrotbutt]

Versago wrote...

LeBurns wrote...

Versago wrote...

LeBurns wrote...

Versago wrote...

If there is one thing DA II does right, it's the combat. There is no doubt that aspect of the game stands out.

I can only agree with that as it is something that people either hate with a passion or they love it.  It is very distinct and does stand out, good or bad, based on your opinion.

Personally I loved the slow and gritty and strategic and realistic combat of DAO.  In my opinion the combat in DA2 was very immature and show-boating nonsense.  That doesn't mean someone else can't love it, but I just don't.

You must've played Origins on the PC then.

Yes, yes I did.  Now that you mention it I can see how someone might enjoy the 'over the top' wild combat of DA2 on a large screen TV.

That explains it. Try the 360 version and I'll bet you won't be so quick to praise Origins' combat. It was easily the weakest part of that game.

I do have to agree with this, I have Origins for both my Xbox and my Desktop, While it was fun on the Xbox, the combat was super frustrating to deal with.  It was Much MUCH better on the PC with more control.

Some people Like the gritty slower combat and some like the newer faster style, I for one am glad for the speed increase, but im not so happy with the flippy rogues, they just seem to be intentionally drawing attention to themselves, which is counter productive to being a rogue. (at least it seems to be that way to me)

The fact of the matter is, that no matter what, someone will always find something to complain about, the least we can try to do, as adults, is find some middle ground rather then trolling each other.  (not directed at anyone in particular, I have just noticed the trend in threads like these)

Enjoying the conversation! I like to see everyones opinions! 

[seraphymon]

Versago wrote...

If there is one thing DA II does right, it's the combat. There is no doubt that aspect of the game stands out.

That is one of the small things that has one improvement. But that is only the smoothness. Everything else about the combat is trying too hard to be over the top, and  imo ends up worse than origins.

[seraphymon]

Versago wrote...

Refara wrote...

1. Combat aimed for 15 year old Naruto/Call of Duty fanboys
2. Weak story
3. Weak characters and writing
4. Reused areas
5. Choices that change basically nothing
6. Kirkwall, the ghost town
7. Unlikable characters
8. Voiced protagonist
9. The "new" Anders
10. Stupid conversation wheel and paraphrasing
11. Worse art and graphic design (Origins vanilla looks better imo, Origins with texture mods blows it out of the water)
12. Can only be one race
13. "Hawke"
14. I'm depressed now

I could go on for hours, DA2 is just so dissapointing.

OMG... more trolls on the forums. What else is new?

Hes not a troll. Just cause he has  bad things to say about your beloved DA2 does not make him, you.