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[K_Tabris]

Prince Zael, you have been reported for being an obnoxious troll. Also

NovinhaShepard wrote...

And you haters need to get a life and stop posting.  What a waste of time and energy. =/

[Plakto]

Goliathsorrow wrote...

The thing is: the whole character of Thane is that he was/is a dyeing man.

Religious assassins that could snap your neck in an instant but are "not that bad" are not original and interesting characters in my eyes so to stay true to his character (and I say this because I actually liked him in ME2) he has to die.

Add whatever fanservice you want like a video of the Femshep trip with him to whatever desert they chose and/or a moment with him but don't waste resourcers by keeping him for most of the game or even a 1/4 of him... he had his shot.

I don't understand people with this argument. You can kill Thane. very easily. there are a ton of ways on youtube to just get his gone so you never have to deal with him again. You personally don't like him and define him by his illness. To me, that's just as valid an argument as defining Miranda by her  genetic modifications or Samara by her vampire babies - they are aspects of their lives and upbringing that makes them  unique, but they by no means define their characters as a whole. They can move past it when your Shepard's help or you can ignore it because you don't particulary care for the character and let them die - both those options are given to you.

So why should Bioware drop the character or "waste resources" to put him in Me3? You had options - thane fan don't deserve options because YOU don't like him?

[Plakto]

Mr.House wrote...

If Thane died in your game, he is dead. The devs have already said this. If Thane is alive, then you get this cameo. If you don't want to see Thane, kill him, it's very simple.

+99999 internets.

[Goliathsorrow]

Plakto wrote...

Goliathsorrow wrote...

The thing is: the whole character of Thane is that he was/is a dyeing man.

Religious assassins that could snap your neck in an instant but are "not that bad" are not original and interesting characters in my eyes so to stay true to his character (and I say this because I actually liked him in ME2) he has to die.

Add whatever fanservice you want like a video of the Femshep trip with him to whatever desert they chose and/or a moment with him but don't waste resourcers by keeping him for most of the game or even a 1/4 of him... he had his shot.

I don't understand people with this argument. You can kill Thane. very easily. there are a ton of ways on youtube to just get his gone so you never have to deal with him again. You personally don't like him and define him by his illness. To me, that's just as valid an argument as defining Miranda by her  genetic modifications or Samara by her vampire babies - they are aspects of their lives and upbringing that makes them  unique, but they by no means define their characters as a whole. They can move past it when your Shepard's help or you can ignore it because you don't particulary care for the character and let them die - both those options are given to you.

So why should Bioware drop the character or "waste resources" to put him in Me3? You had options - thane fan don't deserve options because YOU don't like him?

No offense but I don't think you read my post with the correct mindset.

I actually said I LIKE HIM but I think he should die or his character will lose value (ironic isn't it).

And yes, I perfectly know you can kill him but it's not like the game offers you a magic button which kills one of your crew (well, it happened in ME1 xD) and it doesn't make much sense to me having to research ways so he can get a shot in his face during the suicide mission... that's not good character writing to me.

[mango smoothie]

He actually dies in my canon playthrough I feel it's better for the story. I do hope for my other Shepards though they don't cure Thane as it would ruin what his whole character was in ME3.

[Barquiel]

Mr.House wrote...

If Thane died in your game, he is dead. The devs have already said this. If Thane is alive, then you get this cameo. If you don't want to see Thane, kill him, it's very simple.

My canon Shep didn't recruit Thane. I wonder if I get this cameo.

[Plakto]

Goliathsorrow wrote...

Plakto wrote...

Goliathsorrow wrote...

The thing is: the whole character of Thane is that he was/is a dyeing man.

Religious assassins that could snap your neck in an instant but are "not that bad" are not original and interesting characters in my eyes so to stay true to his character (and I say this because I actually liked him in ME2) he has to die.

Add whatever fanservice you want like a video of the Femshep trip with him to whatever desert they chose and/or a moment with him but don't waste resourcers by keeping him for most of the game or even a 1/4 of him... he had his shot.

I don't understand people with this argument. You can kill Thane. very easily. there are a ton of ways on youtube to just get his gone so you never have to deal with him again. You personally don't like him and define him by his illness. To me, that's just as valid an argument as defining Miranda by her  genetic modifications or Samara by her vampire babies - they are aspects of their lives and upbringing that makes them  unique, but they by no means define their characters as a whole. They can move past it when your Shepard's help or you can ignore it because you don't particulary care for the character and let them die - both those options are given to you.

So why should Bioware drop the character or "waste resources" to put him in Me3? You had options - thane fan don't deserve options because YOU don't like him?

No offense but I don't think you read my post with the correct mindset.

I actually said I LIKE HIM but I think he should die or his character will lose value (ironic isn't it).

And yes, I perfectly know you can kill him but it's not like the game offers you a magic button which kills one of your crew (well, it happened in ME1 xD) and it doesn't make much sense to me having to research ways so he can get a shot in his face during the suicide mission... that's not good character writing to me.

Oh, I understand now. Sorry about that.

You like him but I want him to die cause a higher body counts translate to a better story. Instantly. Death is just cool that way.

Also, you understand completely that you could kill him and remove him from your game competely, but damn that - that's not good writing. Good writing is removing the element for everyone because you disagree with it.

[Arcadian Legend]

mango smoothie wrote...

He actually dies in my canon playthrough I feel it's better for the story. I do hope for my other Shepards though they don't cure Thane as it would ruin what his whole character was in ME3.

Not necessarily. It could give him a new character arc- It would giving the time to be and make amends with his son.

Of course, that is if he can be cured.

[Chewin]

Barquiel wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If Thane died in your game, he is dead. The devs have already said this. If Thane is alive, then you get this cameo. If you don't want to see Thane, kill him, it's very simple.

My canon Shep didn't recruit Thane. I wonder if I get this cameo.

Possibly just a cameo with different dialog, like always.

[mango smoothie]

DarkRiku7 wrote...

mango smoothie wrote...

He actually dies in my canon playthrough I feel it's better for the story. I do hope for my other Shepards though they don't cure Thane as it would ruin what his whole character was in ME3.

Not necessarily. It could give him a new character arc- It would giving the time to be and make amends with his son.

Of course, that is if he can be cured.

Well thats why I have other Shepards to experience all the possibilities.

[JamieCOTC]

Prince Zeel wrote...

You, like the others need to replay the game.

What does deadly incurable disease mean to you guys?

He can come to my bar mitzvah on the weekends?


good grief community.

In pop culture literature, movies, comics and games it means cure at the last second, unless death is the point of the entire story. And for the record, Thane doesn't have an incurable disease. He has a disease for which there is no known cure.  And that which is unknown can be known and is not an uncommon trope.  I would actually be surprised if Thane did die from the disease in a scripted death. What they should do is cure him, then Virmire him w/ another favorite character such as Garrus or Tali. 

[Plakto]

Chewin said it best, but the it was revealed in an Xbox magazine leak that Thane is totally cameo Me3. Like LotSb cameo, if that. He is supposed to pop up in like, the second mission and then be out of commision after that, either due to death (haters can cheer now) or potentially because we were successful in giving him some kind of treatment and he has to recover - througout the length of THE REST OF THE GAME.

It;s time we hunkered down and admitted that unless your sucking Garrus' knifed schlong or banging Tali or Liara you can expect to be screwed over in Me3, they are the most popular characters and Bioware had to set priorities.

Modifié par Plakto, 09 octobre 2011 - 03:06 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Goliathsorrow wrote...

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And yes, I perfectly know you can kill him but it's not like the game offers you a magic button which kills one of your crew (well, it happened in ME1 xD) and it doesn't make much sense to me having to research ways so he can get a shot in his face during the suicide mission... that's not good character writing to me.

I know killing him off requires research involving computations with single variable integrals, multivariable integrals, line integrals, surface integrals, ordinary differential equations, infinite geometric series, infinite non-geometric series, and Taylor/Maclaurin series. But there is an alternative: Choose him as the tech expert. That tends to solve the problem in log(n) time.

[mango smoothie]

Chewin3 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

If Thane died in your game, he is dead. The devs have already said this. If Thane is alive, then you get this cameo. If you don't want to see Thane, kill him, it's very simple.

My canon Shep didn't recruit Thane. I wonder if I get this cameo.

Possibly just a cameo with different dialog, like always.

He says he had plans to die on the mission you recruited him on, so he's actually probably dead.

[Stardusk78]

Prince Zeel wrote...

SkittlesKat96 wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Elvis_Shepard wrote...

I agree. Having one last emotional meeting with him would be the best way to go.

No damn it. He should be dead. I remember when Bioware told us they made these losers so we wouldn't lose the real characters; Ashley, Kaida, Liara. Now everyone is diving through hoops to make sure they get to rub shoulders with their insignificant party members. Let me give you guys a free tip.

Thane is as insignificant a character as it gets. Grunt? Yes, that category.

Sorry, when you have reptile cancer you don't live past a reaper base infiltration.

I don't know if you realized this or not but pretty much everyone is over the whole 'Adding new squad mates into ME 2 is bad' stage, you are probably in the very very very small percentage of people with that opinion so stop thinking your opinion is superior.

Who's Whose argument are you reading? LOL

I'm not against a new squad, I'm just wondering when did me2 squademate get priority over me1 squad mates. Before the game release we were promised me1 castmates would be in the third series. Now, I'm hearing crap about Thane and his stupid cancer. He should be dead.

You can't write, can you?

[Goliathsorrow]

Plakto wrote...

Goliathsorrow wrote...

Plakto wrote...

Goliathsorrow wrote...

The thing is: the whole character of Thane is that he was/is a dyeing man.

Religious assassins that could snap your neck in an instant but are "not that bad" are not original and interesting characters in my eyes so to stay true to his character (and I say this because I actually liked him in ME2) he has to die.

Add whatever fanservice you want like a video of the Femshep trip with him to whatever desert they chose and/or a moment with him but don't waste resourcers by keeping him for most of the game or even a 1/4 of him... he had his shot.

I don't understand people with this argument. You can kill Thane. very easily. there are a ton of ways on youtube to just get his gone so you never have to deal with him again. You personally don't like him and define him by his illness. To me, that's just as valid an argument as defining Miranda by her  genetic modifications or Samara by her vampire babies - they are aspects of their lives and upbringing that makes them  unique, but they by no means define their characters as a whole. They can move past it when your Shepard's help or you can ignore it because you don't particulary care for the character and let them die - both those options are given to you.

So why should Bioware drop the character or "waste resources" to put him in Me3? You had options - thane fan don't deserve options because YOU don't like him?

No offense but I don't think you read my post with the correct mindset.

I actually said I LIKE HIM but I think he should die or his character will lose value (ironic isn't it).

And yes, I perfectly know you can kill him but it's not like the game offers you a magic button which kills one of your crew (well, it happened in ME1 xD) and it doesn't make much sense to me having to research ways so he can get a shot in his face during the suicide mission... that's not good character writing to me.

Oh, I understand now. Sorry about that.

You like him but I want him to die cause a higher body counts translate to a better story. Instantly. Death is just cool that way.

Also, you understand completely that you could kill him and remove him from your game competely, but damn that - that's not good writing. Good writing is removing the element for everyone because you disagree with it.

Dude, my posts are perfectly clear about it, this is just you being stubborn and aggressive because you have a different mindset about it.

My opinion is that the death of Thane in the initial part of ME3 (or his death prior) would actually fit the story and his character.

Edit:

I know killing him off requires research involving computations with
single variable integrals, multivariable integrals, line integrals,
surface integrals, ordinary differential equations, infinite geometric
series, infinite non-geometric series, and Taylor/Maclaurin series. But
there is an alternative: Choose him as the tech expert. That tends to
solve the problem in log(n) time.

I already discussed about that.

I do not think it's good way of storytelling and characterization... I mean, you realized it's different to having him die in the suicide mission and having him die after that with maybe more complete dialogues than a "my shields fell!" scene.

If i really hated Thane I would have done as you guys suggested (screwing my roleplay but I guess I'm a nerd for doing that !?) but it's because I ACTUALLY LIKED HIM that I really would like it to happen my way in ME3.

Modifié par Goliathsorrow, 09 octobre 2011 - 03:16 .

[Plakto]

[quote]Goliathsorrow wrote...

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Dude, my posts are perfectly clear about it, this is just you being stubborn and aggressive because you have a different mindset about it.

My opinion is that the death of Thane in the initial part of ME3 (or his death prior) would actually fit the story and his character.



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[quote]Fiery Phoenix wrote...

[quote]Goliathsorrow wrote...

(...)

And yes, I perfectly know you can kill him but it's not like the game offers you a magic button which kills one of your crew (well, it happened in ME1 xD) and it doesn't make much sense to me having to research ways so he can get a shot in his face during the suicide mission... that's not good character writing to me.[/quote]
I know killing him off requires research involving computations with single variable integrals, multivariable integrals, line integrals, surface integrals, ordinary differential equations, infinite geometric series, infinite non-geometric series, and Taylor/Maclaurin series. But there is an alternative: Choose him as the tech expert. That tends to solve the problem in log(n) time. [/quote]


Now send him to the air vents and be done with it. He good and gone just like you like / wanted. Him dying on the suicide mission is just as plausible as him dying from his illness. But please, don't tell me that Bioware is wasting resources for the community that didn't kill him in the suicide mission. We have just as much rights to a conclusion based on our choices and wants for the character as you do.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Did somebody forget to put widdle Zeely wheely down for his nap?

Poor dear, so neglected and alone.

[Mage Husk]

These debates are strangely interesting to read.

I, personally, disliked almost all of the original teammates other than Wrex and Garrus, so I am of course biased towards the ME2 characters, if that bothers you....then don't read.

But, I would love for Thane to be cured. I don't know how, perhaps it could turn out that the Hanar had been hiding the cure from him...for some reason. Or at least if he doesn't get cured, I would want him to do something big and important before he dies...or maybe Kolyat could do something cool to avenge him? Well, I'm just happy to know that he will have a cameo. Even if it could be potentially depressing.

[jtav]

I keep hearing "he'll die on the second mission." No, it's the second mission the writers were shown, and demos frequently slice these things up. The actual mission could be at any time after we get out of the Local cluster. And his death is certainly not a foregone conclusion. Far more likely he leaves to get treatment. As for some LIs getting more than others: well, yes. I don't see how it could be otherwise since some characters are tied to big plots (Tali, VS, Liara) or insanely popular (Garrus).

[Xilizhra]

Prince Zeel wrote...

He better stay dead. I'm so tired of Bioware pulling this canon shatter bullcrap everytime they want to sell more copies.

He has a disease that's NOT cureable, he should be dead! I dont care what you want fangirls, LIVE with it.

It never fails to amuse me when someone is both enraged about something and telling other people to "deal with it" or some variation thereof. I rather think it's you who needs to deal with it.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Xilizhra wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

He better stay dead. I'm so tired of Bioware pulling this canon shatter bullcrap everytime they want to sell more copies.

He has a disease that's NOT cureable, he should be dead! I dont care what you want fangirls, LIVE with it.

It never fails to amuse me when someone is both enraged about something and telling other people to "deal with it" or some variation thereof. I rather think it's you who needs to deal with it.

Shhh! Don't spoil his hissy fit.

It's amusing.

[NeroSparda]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Elvis_Shepard wrote...

I agree. Having one last emotional meeting with him would be the best way to go.

No damn it. He should be dead. I remember when Bioware told us they made these losers so we wouldn't lose the real characters; Ashley, Kaida, Liara. Now everyone is diving through hoops to make sure they get to rub shoulders with their insignificant party members. Let me give you guys a free tip.

Thane is as insignificant a character as it gets. Grunt? Yes, that category.

Sorry, when you have reptile cancer you don't live past a reaper base infiltration.

Thane has a year left to live according to him, as long as he stays in dry areas, and considering that it just mere months after Mass Effect 2. I doubt he would be died by the time Mass Effect 3 starts.

Modifié par NeroSparda, 09 octobre 2011 - 03:42 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

NeroSparda wrote...

Prince Zeel wrote...

Elvis_Shepard wrote...

I agree. Having one last emotional meeting with him would be the best way to go.

No damn it. He should be dead. I remember when Bioware told us they made these losers so we wouldn't lose the real characters; Ashley, Kaida, Liara. Now everyone is diving through hoops to make sure they get to rub shoulders with their insignificant party members. Let me give you guys a free tip.

Thane is as insignificant a character as it gets. Grunt? Yes, that category.

Sorry, when you have reptile cancer you don't live past a reaper base infiltration.

Thane has a year left to live according to him, as long as he stays in dry areas, and considering that it just mere months after Mass Effect 2. I doubt he would be died by the time Mass Effect 3 starts.

Zeely doesn't care about your fancy "Logic" or "In-game" information!
He trolls because if feels right to him.

Sure he's an ass but at least he's consistently an ass.

[Arcadian Legend]

Well that's something to agree on. XD