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[Cultic-Jacopo N7]

1 Tali
2 Garrus
3 Wrex
4 Legion
5 Mordin
6 Liara
7 Thane
8 Kasumi
9 Jack
10 Miranda
11 Zaeed
12 Grunt
13 Ash
14 Kaidan
15 Samara
16 Morinth
17 Jacob

[lazuli]

Sketchy77 wrote...

Basically I'd like to know what people would order their squadmates in from ME1 and 2 in order from best to worst.
Not including Zaeed or Kasumi.

1. Jacob
2. Miranda
3. Zaeed
4. Mordin
5. Thane
6. Samara
7. Garrus
8. Kaidan
9. Kasumi
10. Grunt
11. Wrex
12. Ashley
13. Jack
14. Tali
15. Morinth
16. Legion
17. Liara

[CoffeeHolic93]

lazuli wrote...




1. Jacob
2. Miranda
3. Zaeed
4. Mordin
5. Thane
6. Samara
7. Garrus
8. Kaidan
9. Kasumi
10. Grunt
11. Wrex
12. Ashley
13. Jack
14. Tali
15. Morinth
16. Legion
17. Liara

[AdmiralCheez]

Screw you, OP, I'll include DLC characters if I want.

01. Wrex
02. Garrus
03. Mordin
04. Legion
05. Kasumi
06. Ashley
07. Thane
08. Samara
09. Jack
10. Tali
11. Liara
12. Miranda
13. Grunt
14. Kaidan
15. Jacob
16. Zaeed

Wrex, Garrus, Mordin, and Legion have always been my top four. I only recently came to really like Thane and Ashley. I actually like all of the characters, just some a lot more than others. It was really hard for me to list them because I like each one for different reasons.

Didn't list Morinth because I haven't recruited her yet.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Screw you, OP, I'll include DLC characters if I want.

01. Wrex
02. Garrus
03. Mordin
04. Legion
05. Kasumi
06. Ashley
07. Thane
08. Samara
09. Jack
10. Tali
11. Liara
12. Miranda
13. Grunt
14. Kaidan
15. Jacob
16. Zaeed

Why the hate agaisnt Zaeed?

[AdmiralCheez]

Lizardviking wrote...

Why the hate agaisnt Zaeed?

Read the rest of the post.  It's not hate; I just like everyone else better.  He's really badass and quite entertaining, but for the most part I'm not really that interested.

[Welsh Inferno]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Screw you, OP, I'll include DLC characters if I want.

^This.

My 6 faviourates are:

1. Garrus
2. Legion
3. Tali
4. Mordin
5. Ashley
6. Wrex

Then:

7. Jack
8. Thane
9. Kasumi 
10. Grunt
11. Miranda
12. Kaidan
13. Samara
14. Jacob
15. Zaeed
16. Liara

17. Morinth

I don't hate any squadmate though. Some seem a little boring, weird or plain obsessive but i don't hate any of them. Well except Morinth. 

Modifié par Welsh Inferno, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:09 .

[darthnick427]

1. Garrus
2. Wrex
3. Legion
4. Liara/ Tali (they're tied. live with it)
5. Mordin
6. Thane
7. Grunt
8. Kasumi
9. Jack
10. Samara
11. Zaeed
12. Ash
13. Miranda
14. Kaidan
15. Morinth

[Ellyria]

Favorites:

Kaidan
Mordin
Thane

Like:

Garrus
Samara
Wrex

Indifferent:

Tali
Ashley
Grunt
Jacob
Miranda
Zaeed
Morinth
Legion

Dislike:

Liara
Jack

I don't have the Kasumi DLC, so she's not on the list.

[CptBomBom00]

Garrus- The very Best ones
Liara
Tali
Legion
Wrex
Miranda
Ashley
Kadian
Grunt
Thane-Average
Mordin
Samara
Jack- the worst
Zaeed
Kasumi
Jacob
and the worst Wilson.- total failure:O

Modifié par CptBomBom00, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:10 .

[D.Kain]

My choice, they kinda go not only by how I like the character but also by how I trust them, I also have many on the same level:

1) Liara ( romance )
2) Morinth ( Secondary romance - celebate )
3) Zaeed, Kasumi, Jack, Grunt.
4) Garrus, Tali, Mordin, Legion, Jacob, Miranda, Kaidan (VS), Thane.

Modifié par D.Kain, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:13 .

[Dark Eff3ct]

Kasumi Goto
Liara T'Soni
Samara
Jack
Miranda Lawson
Legion
Grunt
Mordin Solus
Tali'Zorah Vas Normandy
Kaidan Alenko
Urdnot Wrex
Garrus Vakarian
Thane Krios
Ashley Williams
Morinth
Zaeed Massani
Jacob Taylor

[FoxHound109]

Mine:

Mordin
Liara
Wrex
Tali
Miranda
Ashley
Samara
Grunt
Thane
Legion
Garrus
Kaidan
Jack
Jacob
Morinth
Zaaed

[kamilszmid]

 1. Tali
 2. Miranda
 3. Wrex
 4. Liara
 5. Ashley
 6. Samara
 7. Jack
 8. Garrus
 9. Mordin
 10. Grunt
 11. Legion
 12. Jacob
 13. Kasumi
 14. Thane
 15. Kaidan
 16. Zaeed

[Dunmer of Redoran]

I don't dislike any of the characters, but here's who I have listed (Zaeed, Kasumi and Morinth are excluded since I never use them) and why. It's in countdown style, so excuse me for a reverse.

14. Jack. There’s a big payoff in character development if you romance her, but only if you romance her. You could argue this for some of the other characters in the list, too, and I wouldn’t disagree with you, but for me, this is just one factor that piles up on why I don’t have a particular interest in her as a squadmate. She’s crazy and a sociopath, and yet she’s not, showing a lot of genuine emotion, so I don’t really understand her personality; she’s either super-repressed or she’s nuts, and you can’t have this kind of cake and eat it too. Otherwise, she’s just the usual “axe crazy powerful ****” character and while I don’t have anything against that, it’s just not a character type that I particularly enjoy.

13. Miranda. Her only weakness is that she has low self-esteem and that’s it. She’s supposed to be the “perfect” woman and I think that takes away from the humanity that her character could have, and personally, I think she’s way too sexualized. She’s more of an object than a character of actual empowerment. But she’s a stone-faced fighter who doesn’t personally play up these aspects (it’s the cameras at work instead) so it’s not entirely her fault, so to speak.

12. Jacob. He’s a straight-man and there’s nothing that I dislike about his character (other than his corny FemShep romance dialogue) but he lacks the kind of dynamism that the other characters have. He’s got an iron will that makes it pretty much impossible for anything (even what happened to his father) to faze him in the least, but it’s as if nothing really bothers him all that much. Sure, there’s people like that, but in a literary situation, more depth yields a more interesting character, and he’s a little bit lacking in that depth.

11. Samara. Her character isn’t particularly interesting to me (not a huge fan of the warrior-monk stuff) but she does have pretty decent character depth. She’s a great expression of feminine power and ability, along with the inherent vulnerabilities we all have, which makes her personality pretty believable for someone with centuries of life behind them. I also like how you can really get into talking to her, even if you decide to not go for the romance element. You can get to know her as a friend and build a bond with her without it ever veering into romantic territory, which is something I hope they do with a lot of the banter in ME3. Just because I want to be friends with someone of the opposite sex does not mean I’m romantically interested, although I think Samara would rank higher on my list if there was the potential to properly romance her. It’d be a clashing subplot given her background, but it would add a lot of depth to the terms she must make about considering her ascetic role.

10. Legion. They’re one-dimensional, and they have to be, since Legion is a platform loaded with a bunch of emotionless geth programs which don’t feel in the way the other characters (even Grunt) do. Legion does teach a valuable lesson, though: don’t judge a group of people just because you saw a few of the worst ones. You get a completely different perspective on the geth compared to what you saw from the heretics in the first game, finally being able to see that the geth may very well want peace as much as the rest of us and that they are people too. Besides that, Legion’s just plain fun to have on the team, with the novelty of being a geth having a big part in that.

9. Thane. He’s kind of a freak of nature with his eidetic memory (which, to be fair, all Drell possess) but he’s got a pretty sympathetic story. He’s a horrible dad and he full well knows it, and that’s why he’s so fixated on making amends. He’s been a killer for practically his whole life, and whether for noble purposes or not, he doesn’t like it one bit and, like with his son, wants to make amends. You facilitate that to him, and along the way he offers his stealthy and efficient killing skills to you. This is something about him that I really like; even if you use ManShep, you can have quite a bit of extra conversation with Thane, to learn more about him and help him along, and this is lacking with some of the other characters. I do like the assassin character type, so maybe it’s just me.

8. Grunt. His character might be a little straightforward compared to a lot of the other characters, but his job is to the living weapon as well as the big guy. He’s strong, hasty, and unbelievably violent, making him the hot-headed loose cannon of the team. And every team, as much as they might need a sobering yin or three, they need a raging yang who doesn’t hide anything from anyone and is perfectly fine with going out into the battlefield, having a good fight, and keeping score of just how many enemies he’s splattered into chunks of meat and bone this time.

7. Liara. She would rank higher on my list if she was more like her character in ME2’s Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC for both games, though that’s just personal preference I guess. Actually, it sort of shows how her character matures so much, from the somewhat one-dimensional, sort of emotionless intellectual character, loaded with idealism in the first game, to the much tougher, much bolder woman who risked everything to save you in between games. Even if you don’t return her affections in kind, she’s always by your side, and after her mission to save you from certain, permanent doom has come full-circle, she breaks down in embrace (platonic or romantic, depending on how you played the series) with you, bursting into tears after everything she’s endured since she lost her mother in the first game, and how everything has bottled up inside her. It’s a nice touch, especially for someone who was originally just the token Blue-Skinned Space Babe.

6. Ashley. Girl power! Strong, hard-working, good-looking, able to handle herself on her own and neither a muscle-bound brick wall or a sexualized supermodel, Ash is a character who brings a lot to the team with her combat skills, frank “tell it like it is” personality and radiating, flamboyant confidence. In spite of this, Bioware worked very hard to not make her character “too good” and her weaknesses come into play when you start to talk to her. She’s prejudiced against aliens, due in no small part to what happened to her family during the First Contact War and she’s too simplistic and aggressive in her line of thinking, preferring to shoot first and shoot again later (questions are right out the window with her). Ashley just goes to show us that no matter what great traits a person has, we all can have crippling fallibilities, though these are frequently not without some cause, and it’s important to try to forgive people for these things and, while remaining tolerant of them, help them get past or get rid of these factors.

5. Mordin: Presented as one of the most human characters of them all, Mordin really doesn't sit below the top four. He's only barely edged out by everyone who comes after him on this list, and for good reason. When you first meet him, he's this stone-faced scientist who is willing to make some of the harshest and most decisive decisions in the galaxy without as much as a second thought. So much for that when you go to Tuchanka and do his loyalty mission and all of the horrible truths of the Genophage that he was able to brush to the side get thrown in his face. That's when you find out it was never easy for him to deal with, and that he’s a good person caught up for years trying to atone for his actions. He’s not super-serious all the time though, and he does have a light-hearted side.

4. Kaidan. What Tali is to female characters, Kaidan is to male characters. There's nothing about him to say he can't fight, and he's not a weenie, but he's sensitive and he's a normal guy. He's the team's moral compass and voice of reason, and the bona fide straight-man to keep everybody together in spite of how disparate they are. But he still has courage, and can make all the tough decisions. If Shepard wasn't in the mission, Kaidan could probably run the show just as well. I never understood why there was hate for Kaidan when the game first came out, because he plays one of the single most important roles in the game, even if the whole Virmire Survivor Question wasn’t in the game at all, and he’s a well-written and believable character.

3. Wrex. I have a soft spot for the "snarky wily veteran" type in fiction, but Wrex takes it a step further by being a total badass and being the inverse of the norm for this type. He's not fighting and clinging to ancient ideas from the "good old days"; actually, he thinks those days sucked and that his people need to get their act together with some new ideas or they'll be forgotten. Maybe he doesn’t have the pure emotive depth of my other favorites, but Wrex is a total stereotype-killer, so he gets plenty of bonus points for that aspect alone.

2. Garrus. He likes vigilante justice, and he personifies that inner feeling we get to want to take vengeance and to want to do wrongs to make a greater right, which is a psychological commentary we're forced to approach in the first game, as well as in the second one. Garrus is another human character. He’s spent his life trying to find direction and purpose, and underneath his gruff exterior and sniper rifle-happy badassery, it all pushes down on him and Shepard helps give him that purpose and reinforces him along the way, allowing him to lighten up a bit. After all they go through, he’s unquestionably loyal to Shepard and is willing to stay at his side no matter what hell they go through on their journey.

1. Tali. The everygirl; a totally human and believable character, who is extremely feminized but not sexualized. Bioware worked really hard to drive this point home, and she’s as stark a contrast as stark can be to the stereotypical sex object female characters who show up in video games. She’s very feminine in her general shape, speech, general state of mind, but there’s nothing being “stuck out there” so to speak and you don’t even ever see her face; there’s very little to judge about her looking at her, and I think that in and of itself is an important lesson to consider (“don’t judge a book…” etc.). She's really emotional but she's not crazy. She's independent and can hold her own in a fight but she's not some violent warmonger and is really vulnerable on the inside. She has a lot of dilemmas to deal with in her life, not the least of them being the potential upcoming destruction of her entire race, and the horrific behavior (and death) of her father. It’s not easy for her to deal with and it gets to her, in spite of her own strength, and she can’t get through all of it alone. Tali manages to stay focused and keep herself as an invaluable component of her team despite it all, but it’s ever-present that her life is hard and it’s nothing that she can shrug off. I think a lot of female characters in popular media could take some cues from Tali and her success, especially from that success, which proves that a character like that can be extremely popular with its audience.

Modifié par DaftArbiter, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:54 .

[Soccer FeverMan]

Like:
Garrus
Liara
Mordin
Legion
Jack
Wrex
Grunt
Kaidan
Zaeed


Neutral:
Jacob
Miranda

Dislike:
Samara (b*tch)

Hate:
Tali

Used to like Thane till i found out he might possibly be cured in ME3 nah that SH*T IS NOT COOL.

Modifié par Soccer FeverMan, 09 octobre 2011 - 07:58 .

[Rare Addict]

It's a tough call, as I love just about all of 'em. That said, this is probably how my list would look:

1. Tali
2. Jack
3. Garrus
4. Thane
5. Grunt
6. Mordin
7. Liara
8. Wrex
9. Miranda
10. Legion
11. Ashley
12. Samara
13. Kasumi
14. Jacob
15. Kaidan
16. Zaeed

[TCBC_Freak]

LadyofRivendell wrote...

Let's see...

1. Kaidan
2. Ashley (who, sadly, is dead. Am I the only one who loved both Kaidan and Ashley?)

No, you are not, I liked them also.

[sesheta255]

Kaidan
Grunt
Miranda
Mordin
Thane
Wrex
Jacob
Jack
Ashley
Legion
Zaeed
Garrus
Samara
Kasumi
Tali
Liara

[scampermax]

Liara
Ashley
Wrex
Miranda
Mordin
Tali
Jack
Kasumi
Samara
Kaidan
Legion
Zaeed
Thane
Jacob
Garrus
Grunt

[CrazyRah]

1. Mordin
2. Garrus
3. Wrex
4. Kaidan
5. Miranda
6. Ashley
7. Liara
8. Thane
9. Legion
10. Samara
11. Jack
12. Kasumi
13. Tali
14. Jacob
15. Zaeed
16. Grunt

Modifié par CrazyRah, 09 octobre 2011 - 09:41 .

[phantomdragoness]

• Garrus
• Zaeed
• Mordin
• Legion
• Wrex
• Kasumi
• Tali
• Ashley
• Thane
• Samara
• Grunt
• Liara
• Jack
• Jacob
• Miranda

[hotdogbsg]

1. Zaeed

2. Everyone Else