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[UnadoptedTrack]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

masterkajo wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Eh, I'm not big on MP, especially in games where it makes no sense. So I'm going to ignore this gratuitous feature once I have bought my copy of ME3. Months later after release. Preowned.

But but... then you proabely won't be able to register it here anymore and you'll miss out on your little "3" symbol under your avatar...

You can register a used copy of ME2 here.

Unless someone else did.

I've done that before.

How do you know that a used copy was/wasn't already registered here?

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Oh god there are seriously some huge whiners in this thread. Whatever, whine all you like.

Me? I'll be enjoying playing through ME3 3 or 4 times thanks to this.

1) My main game with my best friend over the internet.
2) My best friend's main game as the coop companion over the internet.
3) A local friend's main game as the coop companion at his house (if there's split screen).
4) Possibly play my main game by myself.

So go feel sorry for yourselves that like... the programmers used their free time to do something awesome? Really, you people are so silly. Network programmers aren't the same as scenario design programmers. Or maybe you think the network programmers are going to model and animate new enemies? Because every last member of BioWare's staff went to school three times longer than necessary to learn every last role in video game development. And who is gonna pay for the ten programmers to work on this for a year? Uh, maybe the projected increase in sales from adding such a cool feature?

...So yeah, you CAN add features without cutting game content.

Have you even been paying attention to the thread?

Could you be more specific about what ABOUT the thread you are referring to?

[sedrikhcain]

masterkajo wrote...

PXXL wrote...

30 pages and only 1 hardcore "fan" who "claims" that he will not buy ME3. Where are all the other conservatives who claimed they wouldn't buy a copy.. back when it was a more vague rumor?

Almost all were just threatening Bioware. Do you really believe they won't buy a game because there is one more feature? Like when you buy a car and when you learn you also get a hanger for your bikes you suddenly don't want it anymore just because you don't ride bikes?

I admit that I'll be purchasing ME3 on day one. There's no way I can resist. I get antsy just thinking about the fact that I still have almost six months to wait before I can get the game. So BioWare and EA will definitely get my money for this title -- no matter what. However, after a string of games that are among my favorites ever, BioWare has now released DA2 -- which was a major disappointment to most fans of the first game -- and now has added multiplayer to ME3, which sounds like another step in the wrong direction, i.e. away from what fans of the game want.

The fact that I neither bought nor played DA2 should be a cause for concern on BioWare's part because word of mouth, and critics, put me off it. The game sounded like a very rushed product (same dungeons over and over, just one town, total departure from the story and characters in DA: O, despite all they did in that game and its DLC to suggest they were going to continue to follow these characters, etc). When companies rush games, it's because of money. When big, rich companies rush games, it's because money and greed are trumping quality, since they have enough money that they won't go broke by delaying a title for a couple of months. And now we have multiplayer, coming as an addition to a series that has created sort of the ultimate AAA single-player gaming universe in the last few years. No one among the fanbase was crying out for multiplayer, that I can see. The fans seem to fall into three camps: hate it, don't mind it or just mildly enthused about it. I've seen almost no one deliriously happy that this will be a part of the game. So that means this was done to capture fans for whom multiplayers has become what games are all about, i.e. NOT ME fans.
 
I'd have to say that when you look at this move in the context of other recent developments, the scenario does not look promising for the ME3 fan who has been with the series from the start, loves all of it and is hoping for the satisfying conclusion next March.

Of course, this is nearly all speculation, I freely admit that. None of us knows what's in store. All I'm saying is that I'm worried now. Truly worried. I've had confidence up until now but I'm finding it difficult to just brush this off.

[Pink_Pyro]

bleetman wrote...

Pink_Pyro wrote...

Uninstalled ME 1 and 2. Once you made all the choices for the save file import, there's no point playing it again when you can watch the other endings on the Tube. Interestingly, I still have TF2, BF2, BC2 and BF3 installed.

Conversely, I own but don't play TF2 all that much, so perhaps I should be arguing for the inclusion of a story driven, singleplayer campaign for no other reason than because it suits my tastes better.

Alternatively, I could play something else.

Which isn't so much of an '...and this is why multiplayer shouldn't be included' thing. I'm a little... puzzled as to why it's being included, but I'll roll with it. But seriously. Y'don't like singleplayer? You prefer multiplayer? Fair enough, just don't buy singleplayer games and expect change to suit a preference that's entirely removed from what they are.

I was a big fan of SP games a few years ago. Max Payne, HL2, KotOR, Dragon Age 1, Oblivion, FO3, NV, pretty much every SP only game you can think of that's been released over the last couple of years. But now, apart from DXHR, there really hasn't been a compelling SP so far. And once you finish, there's no incentive to replay since you've experienced everything. So I figured, might as well give the big MP games a whirl instead.

[Sgt Stryker]

Azbeszt wrote...

Anti piracy mutliplayer ftw!

Ha, if anything it'll just contribute to more piracy.

[masterkajo]

RamirezWolfen wrote...
I've done that before.

And yet you have no symbols under your avatar...

Modifié par masterkajo, 10 octobre 2011 - 12:21 .

[Estel78]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Oh god there are seriously some huge whiners in this thread. Whatever, whine all you like.

Me? I'll be enjoying playing through ME3 3 or 4 times thanks to this.

1) My main game with my best friend over the internet.
2) My best friend's main game as the coop companion over the internet.
3) A local friend's main game as the coop companion at his house (if there's split screen).
4) Possibly play my main game by myself.

So go feel sorry for yourselves that like... the programmers used their free time to do something awesome? Really, you people are so silly. Network programmers aren't the same as scenario design programmers. Or maybe you think the network programmers are going to model and animate new enemies? Because every last member of BioWare's staff went to school three times longer than necessary to learn every last role in video game development. And who is gonna pay for the ten programmers to work on this for a year? Uh, maybe the projected increase in sales from adding such a cool feature?

...So yeah, you CAN add features without cutting game content.

Sorry to burst your bubble but adding co-op to the main campaign would require much more than a few network programmers, it would require quite drastic changes since the campaign would have to allow for another (or more) player(s). So don't count on campaign co-op...

[marshalleck]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

masterkajo wrote...

Merilsell wrote...

Eh, I'm not big on MP, especially in games where it makes no sense. So I'm going to ignore this gratuitous feature once I have bought my copy of ME3. Months later after release. Preowned.

But but... then you proabely won't be able to register it here anymore and you'll miss out on your little "3" symbol under your avatar...

You can register a used copy of ME2 here.

Unless someone else did.

For console, all you need is the product UPC to register the game. You can get that info from Amazon. Games can be registered without even owning them.

[RamirezWolfen]

UnadoptedTrack wrote...


How do you know that a used copy was/wasn't already registered here?

I've registered my used copy more than once with a different account.

[Gotholhorakh]

culletron1 wrote...

I think its made by a seperate studio as well.But people will be blinded by their misguided rage.

What difference does that make???

Resources don't get magiced into existence just because they outsourse MP development! 

Any resource used to create MP could have been used to polish/expand the single player... 

Ah, the good old mythical unit of game development stuff, available by the tonne or the pound, now all you need is enough developers with enough shovels to shovel the zots into the game oven.

I'll let you in on a little development secret (I don't work on BioWare games or for BioWare, btw) - that is a most famously misguided concept - shovels full of software development do not exist.

Modifié par Gotholhorakh, 10 octobre 2011 - 12:24 .

[Tony_Knightcrawler]

Estel78 wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Oh god there are seriously some huge whiners in this thread. Whatever, whine all you like.

Me? I'll be enjoying playing through ME3 3 or 4 times thanks to this.

1) My main game with my best friend over the internet.
2) My best friend's main game as the coop companion over the internet.
3) A local friend's main game as the coop companion at his house (if there's split screen).
4) Possibly play my main game by myself.

So go feel sorry for yourselves that like... the programmers used their free time to do something awesome? Really, you people are so silly. Network programmers aren't the same as scenario design programmers. Or maybe you think the network programmers are going to model and animate new enemies? Because every last member of BioWare's staff went to school three times longer than necessary to learn every last role in video game development. And who is gonna pay for the ten programmers to work on this for a year? Uh, maybe the projected increase in sales from adding such a cool feature?

...So yeah, you CAN add features without cutting game content.

Sorry to burst your bubble but adding co-op to the main campaign would require much more than a few network programmers, it would require quite drastic changes since the campaign would have to allow for another (or more) player(s). So don't count on campaign co-op...

Sorry to burst your bubble too, but no. It would not require drastic changes to the campaign. You're making silly assumptions, and just making things up.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Multiplayer in ME3?

Well that is disappointing.

[UnadoptedTrack]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

UnadoptedTrack wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Oh god there are seriously some huge whiners in this thread. Whatever, whine all you like.

Me? I'll be enjoying playing through ME3 3 or 4 times thanks to this.

1) My main game with my best friend over the internet.
2) My best friend's main game as the coop companion over the internet.
3) A local friend's main game as the coop companion at his house (if there's split screen).
4) Possibly play my main game by myself.

So go feel sorry for yourselves that like... the programmers used their free time to do something awesome? Really, you people are so silly. Network programmers aren't the same as scenario design programmers. Or maybe you think the network programmers are going to model and animate new enemies? Because every last member of BioWare's staff went to school three times longer than necessary to learn every last role in video game development. And who is gonna pay for the ten programmers to work on this for a year? Uh, maybe the projected increase in sales from adding such a cool feature?

...So yeah, you CAN add features without cutting game content.

Have you even been paying attention to the thread?

Could you be more specific about what ABOUT the thread you are referring to?

Let me just state what I see wrong with these statements. 1-3 seems implausible. We're not saying that they'll get rid of content, we're saying it might not be as good because the budget has been spread between SP and MP and finally, we don't know if it's a cool feature yet. Right now, it's all speculation.

[RamirezWolfen]

masterkajo wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...
I've done that before.

And yet you have no symbols under your avatar...

Because I don't have ME2 registered with this account. On my old account I did, and another one I used temporarily had the same game registered.

[Aggie Punbot]

The good news: BioWare has just saved me $80. *cancels pre-order*
The bad news: I won't get to play the final chapter in a game franchise that I really, really loved.

The good news: I don't have to waste my time getting any other Shepards set up for ME3 anymore. Time sink relieved!
The bad news: There goes the only game I was looking forward to playing.

The good news: I no longer have to participate in any other ME3 discussions and can spend all my time in the DA2 forum.
The bad news: ...I have to spend all my time in the DA2 forum.

Modifié par TS2Aggie, 10 octobre 2011 - 12:24 .

[UnadoptedTrack]

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

Tony_Knightcrawler wrote...

Oh god there are seriously some huge whiners in this thread. Whatever, whine all you like.

Me? I'll be enjoying playing through ME3 3 or 4 times thanks to this.

1) My main game with my best friend over the internet.
2) My best friend's main game as the coop companion over the internet.
3) A local friend's main game as the coop companion at his house (if there's split screen).
4) Possibly play my main game by myself.

So go feel sorry for yourselves that like... the programmers used their free time to do something awesome? Really, you people are so silly. Network programmers aren't the same as scenario design programmers. Or maybe you think the network programmers are going to model and animate new enemies? Because every last member of BioWare's staff went to school three times longer than necessary to learn every last role in video game development. And who is gonna pay for the ten programmers to work on this for a year? Uh, maybe the projected increase in sales from adding such a cool feature?

...So yeah, you CAN add features without cutting game content.

Sorry to burst your bubble but adding co-op to the main campaign would require much more than a few network programmers, it would require quite drastic changes since the campaign would have to allow for another (or more) player(s). So don't count on campaign co-op...

Sorry to burst your bubble too, but no. It would not require drastic changes to the campaign. You're making silly assumptions, and just making things up.

Okay, you're either 1. not thinking or 2. just stupid.

[Pink_Pyro]

Enough to get the game out the door. Not enough to perfect it. You only have to look at Beth and the sheer number of mods required to fix their games to a playable state.

And that's a nice signature you have there DSoup.

Good News; Buy the damn game and ignore MP. Don't even click it. Just click New Game in the menu Aggie and pretend MP doesn't exist.
Bad News: You lost the $80 you were about to get back.

Modifié par Pink_Pyro, 10 octobre 2011 - 12:26 .

[Valdrane78]

Personally I really don't care as long as it's stand alone and doesn't affect the SP experience.

[marshalleck]

TS2Aggie wrote...

The good news:BioWare has just saved me $80. *cancels pre-order*
The bad news: I won't get to play the final chapter in a game franchise that I really, really loved.

The good news: I don't have to waste my time getting any other Shepards set up for ME3 anymore. Time sink relieved!
The bad news: there goes the only game I was looking forward to getting.

The good news: I no longer have to participate in any other ME3 discussions and can spend all my time in the DA2 forum.
The bad news: ...I have to spend all my time in the DA2 forum.

You'll be getting ME3, probably after Bioware showcase some new single-player content

[StefanBW]

So this is why I have to wait until 2012? Grrr!

[Cyberstrike nTo]

JeffZero wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...
I really doubt it will, though. The mediocre first-attempt at multiplayer will be just that, mediocre, and people will stop playing it after a year, just like AC Brotherhood.

People here still talk about KotOR. Will MP acheive that longevity? Of course not.

A year? You're too kind.

I'll give it three months tops.

This all depends on what we mean by 'people will stop playing it' -- dropoff is inevitable and eventually it will be substantial; that's a basic understanding. But MGS4 still has servers and a decent-sized dedicated online following and that's another example of a strong single-player series that made the leap to online capabilities back in 2008.

Three months? Rather silly estimation if you don't mind my saying, unless you're just implying that within ninety days it will stop being a huge thing. In which case yes, certainly possible.

There are games that can pull off a single player and multiplayer modes very well, Uncharted 2 and  Transformers: War For Cybertron but I'm not a big multiplayer gamer and find all MP games the same dull, boring, and a waste of my time.
 

[frustratemyself]

TS2Aggie wrote...

The good news: BioWare has just saved me $80. *cancels pre-order*
The bad news: I won't get to play the final chapter in a game franchise that I really, really loved.

The good news: I don't have to waste my time getting any other Shepards set up for ME3 anymore. Time sink relieved!
The bad news: There goes the only game I was looking forward to playing.

The good news: I no longer have to participate in any other ME3 discussions and can spend all my time in the DA2 forum.
The bad news: ...I have to spend all my time in the DA2 forum.

Overreacting much?

[ElitePinecone]

TS2Aggie wrote...

The good news: BioWare has just saved me $80. *cancels pre-order*
The bad news: I won't get to play the final chapter in a game franchise that I really, really loved.

The good news: I don't have to waste my time getting any other Shepards set up for ME3 anymore. Time sink relieved!
The bad news: There goes the only game I was looking forward to playing.

The good news: I no longer have to participate in any other ME3 discussions and can spend all my time in the DA2 forum.
The bad news: ...I have to spend all my time in the DA2 forum.

A little melodramatic, no? 

[UnadoptedTrack]

stefanbw wrote...

So this is why I have to wait until 2012? Grrr!

That's what it seems like. That, or something went horribly wrong with the SP.