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Co-Op Multiplayer Missions Officially Confirmed for ME3 by BioWare


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zico291 wrote...

As long as the co-op has separate missions to the singleplayer story, and people don't spawn as squadmates or Shepard. I am totally fine with the idea.


I go one further:

As long as co-op is a completely seperate add-on  that I don't have to touch, even to install the game...

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Vertigo_1 says that the latest confirmation was during Comic Con:

http://bit.ly/oFo2Sg @ 8:45

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It is Co-Op, if it stays that way it should be [super] awesome. Hopefully, not PvP. Still, im not nearly as mad as I thought I would be.

As long as the SP is good I think the vast majority of people will be fine. Unless they have a ragefit.

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Olwydd wrote...

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So I hear lots of complaining, I heard it since ME1 when ever any one brought up multiplayer. But what I never heard is a valid reason for such complaints. Its always stuff like "lt will ruin the game." "Mass Effect is a singleplayer game if you want multiplayer play Gears of War" "If they add multiplayer that take away from the time they put into singleplayer" Which is not true because with most games there are multiple teams working on the project and other thing like that with out any explanation why. So here is your chance complainers tell me a valid reason you think multiplayer detracts form the game.


There is a limit to funds, manpower, and time. Nothing is free. You might have an extra team to work on MP, but those people still need to be paid, and most of the time those funds come from the same pool (if not, great, fine!). That MP component still needs to be worked into the greater game, which requires QA time. Sometimes you can't have X & Y at the same time; it's not feasible due to time and resource limits, so you're stuck with having either X OR Y. Many people, including myself, are a bit nervous that an unknown multiplayer element means fewer funds being diverted to elements of the single player campaign they know and love. Whether or not that turns out to be a valid concern remains to be seen.


But with this you make the assumption if Mass Efffect 3 was a single player only game they would still allocate the same amount of funds and man hours to development. This is a multimillion dollar company I think they know how to manage man hours and budget. If you think that having a single player only game means they would put the money and time they allocated for multiplayer in to single player I think you're mistaking. See the assumption everyone seems to be making in the Budget is the same no matter what.

How it work is Bioware/EA put together a plan with every thing they want in the game, put it all on paper and budget the money and manpower and resources accordingly accordingly. If anything the added resources of multiplayer might have even improved single play by add weapons and levels that wouldn't have been there otherwise.

Modifié par The Calculator, 10 octobre 2011 - 08:36 .


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Genshie wrote...

You just made a perfect excuse for people to hammer on singleplayer if they don't like it.


Well, so what?  People who didn't like it would find some convenient explanation for why it was horrible anyway. 

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This is awesome news! Looking forward to hearing more details!

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Killjoy Cutter wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

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Nashiktal wrote...

:(

Here's hoping single player doesn't suffer. Some games just don't need multiplayer tacked on to it. Bioshock 2 was a good example.

Le sigh.


It is going to suffer, because we can't mod the game.

Like you could mod ME1 or ME2?


Yes. The most important:
  • make the idiotic thermal clips to go away
  • add resources so you don't need to strip mine planets.

You call that modding? I call it cheating, tbh. That's like me putting my strenght to 99 in Kotor using KSE and saying I'm modding it, lmao.

And how are thermal clips idiotic? Infinite supply of fire with frictionless materials was idiotic as it destroyed anything challenging about the concept of the shooter part of the RPG-shooter ME is anyway. This is what I mean, every single ME1 elitist refers to things they don't like as stupid, as if people who don't like them are stupid. ME is just as much shooter as RPG, and guess what, a shooter with infinite ammo isn't challenging. ME2's system was better and more tactical, and actually made you think about where you aimed and what guns you carried. (eg. Mattock has low ammo capacity but high DPS)


It is literally impossible to cheat in a single-player game.   Cheating requires that someone else be harmed, put at a disadvantage, or otherwise wronged. 

If I want to see how a single-player game plays with different parameters on any particular thing, then there's nothing wrong with me doing so, and it's between me, myself, and I.  It is literally no one else's concern. 

Tell me changing the paramaters to completely rid the need to do certain things that are key to the feel of the game (thermal clips especially) doesn't fit with the below definition. Sure, may not be against anybody else directly, but it gives you an advantage against the average ME2 gamer.
[*]cheatingpresent participle of cheat (Verb)Verb:Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, esp. in a game or examination:


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Abirn wrote...

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I don't think Bioware will make a competitive MP mode. The clue is in the word 'co-op'. Maybe a survival mode, or a small seperate campaign mode specially designed for two players, like the splinter cell games.


That is insane,  why should I be forced to play with others just to experience the campaign in a freaking RPG. 

And they deliberatly and intentionally lied to us.  Which should have EVERYBODY up in arms to be honest.


They did that so you would have less time to consider cancelling that preorder my friend. 

To the loyal fans and customers, you have a voice.

ME3: Fight for the Lost PLOT.

Join up!

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DarkRiku7 wrote...

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All the ****ing here is digusting.Posted Image
I'm out. Peace. Posted Image


See you around, person-I-don't-know.

But seriously. EVERYONE!




Wow. Shades of my childhood. I wonder if Smurfs are still popular? Oh wait, nevermind, forgot the Asari.

Wonder if MP will allow you to play as any species/race? There would be some benefit to playing as Krogan or Vorcha for regenerative reasons, and other races for their strengths.

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Abirn wrote...

Archer Two Four wrote...

I don't think Bioware will make a competitive MP mode. The clue is in the word 'co-op'. Maybe a survival mode, or a small seperate campaign mode specially designed for two players, like the splinter cell games.


That is insane,  why should I be forced to play with others just to experience the campaign in a freaking RPG. 

And they deliberatly and intentionally lied to us.  Which should have EVERYBODY up in arms to be honest.



You are being a tad irrational, and you're just clouding the issue and fanning the flames. Nobody lied; some of the Devs may have dodged the issue, but they never flat out lied.

 
Also, no-one would ever be stupid enough to require MP to complete the campaign. It’ll be an optional additional element. Take a deep breath and calm down.

Modifié par Olwydd, 10 octobre 2011 - 08:38 .


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Melchiah109 wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Archer Two Four wrote...

I don't think Bioware will make a competitive MP mode. The clue is in the word 'co-op'. Maybe a survival mode, or a small seperate campaign mode specially designed for two players, like the splinter cell games.


That is insane,  why should I be forced to play with others just to experience the campaign in a freaking RPG. 

And they deliberatly and intentionally lied to us.  Which should have EVERYBODY up in arms to be honest.


I'm guessing you missed the word seperate, or maybe you just don't understand what it means. If you want to go all Occam's Razor at least take things in context.


No, I understand the word separate and that is the problem,  That is a campaign I won't be able to experience because my friends don't play Mass effect games.  

Also I want a direct explaination from Bioware as to why they feel it is acceptable to flat out lie to the playerbase like they did a few months ago.

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mranderson25 wrote...

So we're gonna condemn it without trying it or even getting more info? So I'm guessing that everyone never had that "you don't know if you like it until you try it" moment as children then? Sure, it could be terrible, but it could also be THE GAME OF THE CENTURY. There's just no way to tell yet...


If there's anything in the actual SP game of ME3 that encourages MP, or any content that requires MP, then there's no way it can be the game of the minute, let alone century. 

There are just too many ways in which MP can eff up SP. 

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I know this is off topic but, when are we going to get that BW TV episode featuring reaper sound?

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Ghost-621 wrote...

Seriously people, DON'T PAY THESE LIARS!


Yes.  And return Mass Effect 1 while you're at it because it didn't include Mako customization.  They said it would, dammit!

Modifié par didymos1120, 10 octobre 2011 - 08:43 .


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aridor1570 wrote...

I know this is off topic but, when are we going to get that BW TV episode featuring reaper sound?

It really is a question of faith. Of course you could just sit there and wait, but if you believe it will happen, it probably will. You have to believe it!

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wadeconty7 wrote...

The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
   



Yes. Brilliant and powerful observation, Columbo.  

How dare they try to make money? You know, being a business and all... 

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Can somebody give me a summary on what I missed?

I don't mind if it's 3 player co-op in the story, but otherwise, not a fan.

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The... I guess I'll call it pessimism (instead of blindly labeling it ignorance) in this thread truly depresses me. I cannot fathom why the inclusion of a CO-OP multiplayer mode somehow ruins the game. Co-op modes in games are quite possibly my favorites and I'm very excited to see one implemented in my favorite game universe.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Seriously people, DON'T PAY THESE LIARS!


Yes.  And return Mass Effect 1 while your at it because it didn't include Mako customization.  They said it would, dammit!

If I had to return every game which's dev said there would be something when there wasn't, or that there wouldn't be something there when there was, I would have to return me entire video game collection lol

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I just find it amusing that mods are deleting posts here, judging by the constantly-changing posts at the beginning of the page.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Ghost-621 wrote...

Seriously people, DON'T PAY THESE LIARS!


Yes.  And return Mass Effect 1 while your at it because it didn't include Mako customization.  They said it would, dammit!

And to think that I was the one ranting to poor Chris Priestly about consumer rights.

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wadeconty7 wrote...

The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   
The only reason multiplayer is being added is to make money off of casuals, not to improve the game.   



:lol: :lol: :lol:

Now we've crossed straight into mental disorder territory. I swear, you people are going to turn me into a fan of multiplayer. You big ol' elitist sillies. <3

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 10 octobre 2011 - 08:44 .


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Zakatak757 wrote...

Can somebody give me a summary on what I missed?

I don't mind if it's 3 player co-op in the story, but otherwise, not a fan.

All that's confirmed so far is that the MP mode is co-op missions. Past rumors say that they're standalone and designed for 4 players max.

Modifié par IsaacShep, 10 octobre 2011 - 08:42 .


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So this is what ME3 was delayed for? Not additional QA? Not bugtesting? Not balancing?
Thank you, Bioware. You made my day.