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[Silver]

I was a little daft a moment ago and asked Casey if ME3 was delayed because of Multiplayer...

[DarthSliver]

I think we got to reserve judgement after the game comes out, we cant just assume it will have negative effect on Singleplayer until we see that it has.

[didymos1120]

VallenValiant wrote...

Actually, yes, that IS my logic. Lie = untrustworthy. That's pretty much how it works in real life.

And you've never once, not ever, told a lie yourself? Not even a little one?  Because if you have, then you're untrustworthy too.

[Killjoy Cutter]

DuckSoup wrote...

silverhammer08 wrote...

and here we have it Ladies & Gentleman, a perfect way to RUIN a perfect singleplayer experience... what the **** are you thinking BioWare ?
Feeling left out by crap like Bulletstorm ?

Again, for the 100th time today, how are they ruining the SP experience? They aren't one and the same. They are two seperate games. You don't have to play MP. 

Are people even thinking before they post? 

Some of us are, and some of us have detailed several ways in which MP could potentially have a negative impact on SP.

1)  Redirected development resources.  (And yes, "we spent more money / time" is still a matter of resources that could have been spent on the SP contect / gameplay.)

2)  Anti-modding measures to "protect the integrity" of the MP gameplay.

3)  Interference of the MP on SP, such as "this mission was actually designed for MP, but it's in the SP content and therefore a PITA to complete alone." 

4)  Etc.


All of these issues have come up before when MP was added to a previously SP game or franchise. 

[Welsh Inferno]

Eh. Atleast it isn't full blown multiplayer, Co-op can be fun sometimes. I expect this to be like a mix of GoW's horde mode and MW2's spec ops missions.

[Cartims]

Errrr, just like everything else...if you don't like that aspect of the game....don't play it....it's that simple.

[wadeconty7]

So any thoughts on how co-op handles any move with time dilation, or pausing to issue commands?  Or will it just be "LOL GENERIC FPS" gameplay?

[Genshie]

Ruud333 wrote...

Genshie wrote...

Good job Bioware. You just made a perfect excuse for people to hammer on singleplayer if they don't like it. If reviews are going to blame anything about singleplayer now the adding of the "multiplayer feature" will most likely be first thing they comment on for reasons why.

Ah nevermind, everybody makes mistakes

Genshie wrote...

I will post this again since some of you can't get it through your thick skulls. The only way they would be able to implement co-op/multiplayer at all is if they totally revamped the classes. As of now with the current combat system it is impossible. You would have to totally revamp the Soldier and Vanguard class since their signature abilities just would not translate the way they are now. Not to mention they would have to throw out the pause feature when you are choosing abilities from the wheel. The dialogue choices would have to be revamped for co-op as well which doesn't make any sense if this a story about the adventure(s) of Commander Shepard not anyone else. This particular game just doesn't scream multiplayer/co-op at all.

Genshie wrote...

The new feature has already been confirmed as not being multiplayer via twitter. I can give you the link to the other mutliplayer thread speculation thread that you seem to spam this thread off of. Please, stop making these threads! I am damn sure there is not going to be multiplayer any time soon. As I posted in many other threads like this they would have to totally revamp the combat system and multiple classes for this idea to even work. (Not going to retype everything since this is getting really old) Also you are basing your multiplayer assumptions on a magazine that has lied/thrown out misinformation before.

And now you are just being an ass. Those post were made a while back before the multiplayer rumor was confirmed. So by all means I was fine. There alot of other people who posted the exact same thing. I stand by what I said and honestly wish good luck to Bioware on figuring out how to make a MP feature that is even decent.

[Lakeshow1986]

Hey bulletstorm is awesome, it's great and has its place as a pretty over-the-top shooter with lots of cussing. Mass Effect 3 is ment to be a third person rpg-turned shooter that has a heavy focus on story and consequence. No where in that does MP fit in. Why on earth you put in MP in the final game of the series is beyond me other than money.

[RyuGuitarFreak]

Bekkael wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

You will need gold for this, I am a gold xbox subscriber bu a lot of my friends are only silver, but really enjoy the ME series.

I'm gold too. PC players won't have to do anything additional...

We will probably have to install a spyware Origin.

I won't like it, but I'm a **** and I'll have it anyway. I'll have Battlefield 3 already.

[Apollo Starflare]

If they are co op missions that are playable online or offline and feature players taking the role of characters who have appeared throughout the series both in major and minor roles (or new characters) all of which are fighting for their lives against the Reapers in unique co op designed missions, well I would be lying if that didn't excite me. I just wish we were getting a whole game of it in a year and a half or so!

A co op mission where one person plays Wrex and the other Aria would be immense for example.

[Hammertime80]

Can someone please catch me up? The beginning of this thread was "OMG MULTIPLAYER IS TEH BADZ." and then 30 pages later we end up at "Eh, co-op wouldn't be too bad." What did I miss?

[Killjoy Cutter]

darknoon5 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Sure, may not be against anybody else directly, but it gives you an advantage against the average ME2 gamer.

This sentence doesn't make any sence. Modding in Singleplayer cannot give you an advantage against anyone.

The games don't even feature high scores, where this could be considered cheating.

You can't see how it gives an advantage? Come on, for one it makes a difficulty like insanity mode much easier.

"Yeah, I got ME2's achievement for insanity. Doesn't matter that I had unlimited health and ammo, though."

See where I'm going?

And what does someone else doing that have to do with you?   Does it make your experience of the game less enjoyable?  Does it take away from your gameplay or ruin the story for you somehow? 

It doesn't affect my experience, but it does mean they've reached a goal illegally.

It's called cheating, lol. Unless you think an achievement for not dying once in a campaign gained through giving max health via a save game editor is legit? Here's another definition for cheating:

To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.

Sounds close enough to me. But I can't be bothered to argue over such a minute detail.

Anyway, this is irrelevant, seeing as my original point is there's very little/no real modding for ME, besides textures and editing a few values. And that complaining you can't mod ME3 is silly.

The thing that makes violating rules bad is that it has a negative impact on someone else. 

If no one is harmed, where's the issue? 

(And there's more modding possible than you probably realize in ME2.) 

[Icinix]

Meh.

As long as I don't have to sign into a stupid multiplayer thing to play singleplayer - I couldn't care less.

I'm not into achievements either so meh again.

The writings been on the wall for months now, its not like we should be surprised. But I am happy all those people who claimed evidence about MP and were abused left right and centre have now been proven right! YAY!

Modifié par Icinix, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:03 .

[Chewin]

IsaacShep wrote...

I just had a best idea ever. What if we can play as Nigel Fish'N Chips & friends and defend the Big Ben asn in the trailer while Shep is coming back to Earth? :OOO

What's player number 2, 3 and 4's name then?

[CroGamer002]

Why was this thread locked?

[shepskisaac]

IsaacShep wrote...

I just had a best idea ever. What if we can play as Nigel Fish'N Chips & friends and defend the Big Ben asn in the trailer while Shep is coming back to Earth? :OOO

Medhia Nox wrote...

Okay - a gentleman named Valdrane 78 made me think of something.

What if the Co-Op doesn't involve Shepard at all?

What if the key to Co-op is the Big Ben sniper? (that is to say - he's actually an advertisement for the multiplayer co-op missions)

Ideas twins!!!!! Ohh Nigel <3

Modifié par IsaacShep, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:03 .

[Silver]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Hey bulletstorm is awesome, it's great and has its place as a pretty over-the-top shooter with lots of cussing. Mass Effect 3 is ment to be a third person rpg-turned shooter that has a heavy focus on story and consequence. No where in that does MP fit in. Why on earth you put in MP in the final game of the series is beyond me other than money.

Bulletstorm on its own was good fun, but I don't see Co-Op working in ME3... it was never meant to have any kind of Multiplayer and all of a sudden it gets tacked on...

[BatmanPWNS]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Hey bulletstorm is awesome, it's great and has its place as a pretty over-the-top shooter with lots of cussing. Mass Effect 3 is ment to be a third person rpg-turned shooter that has a heavy focus on story and consequence. No where in that does MP fit in. Why on earth you put in MP in the final game of the series is beyond me other than money.

Games are made so people can earn money. There is no bigger purpose.

[Phaedon]

IsaacShep wrote...

I just had a best idea ever. What if we can play as Nigel Fish'N Chips & friends and defend the Big Ben asn in the trailer while Shep is coming back to Earth? :OOO

Am I the only one who noticed that Nigel is wearing the same outfit as:


SPOILERS

One of the Cerberus enemies that was revealed in the Sur'Kesh demo? The ones with the yellowy thingy on their helmets. Not Guardians or Troopers. Centurions maybe?

Modifié par Phaedon, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:03 .

[Iakus]

DuckSoup wrote...

Again, for the 100th time today, how are they ruining the SP experience? They aren't one and the same. They are two seperate games. You don't have to play MP. 

Are people even thinking before they post? 

They're not seperate games unless they are seperate installations.  If I can't install ME3 campaign mode without installing multiplayer, they are in fact one and the same.  Just different features of the same game.

 Will SP powers be altered to "balance" for MP?  Will enemies?    Squadmates?  WIll any missions or dialogue or plotlines in SP be left out because they can't shoehorn everything and MP onto the disks?  Will missing features be relegated to paid DLCs because of this?  Will I have to have an online connection to play SP?  Will I need Origin just to play my Shepard?  

WIll ME3 be an "okay"40 hour game when it could have been an extraordinary 50 hour game, because of resource/space limitations?

[1136342t54_]

VallenValiant wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

VallenValiant wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

The problem with people claiming it will take away from the length of the game is that any fault they see in the game they will automatically assume its mp fault. No matter what. It probably wouldn't be the fault of MP since the game was basically a finished almost a year ago.

And how do we know that for sure? Because they said so? Because Bioware doesn't lie?

And how do I know your not just a troll? Because you say so?

Seriously going by your logic anyone or any organization that has lied before should never be trusted period and is unfit to do anything.

Actually, yes, that IS my logic. Lie = untrustworthy. That's pretty much how it works in real life.

Then leave your country and live out in the wilderness away from any authorities. Hell leave your family and any other human being because you know what? Everyone has lied, avoided the truth or both.