2368 réponses à ce sujet

[Zakatak757]

The PLC wrote...

Co-op romance scenes

Player 1: Ashley
Player 2: Miranda
Player 3: Liara
Player 4: Kelly

whoa..

Rated M for MANLY.

[shepskisaac]

Chewin3 wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

I just had a best idea ever. What if we can play as Nigel Fish'N Chips & friends and defend the Big Ben asn in the trailer while Shep is coming back to Earth? :OOO

What's player number 2, 3 and 4's name then?

Nigel's hot identical twin and their 2 hot twin sisters

[Mims]

If you are agonizing over this, it's time to take a walk outside.

Yes, Mass Effect 3 could bomb. Or maybe it won't and multiplayer will be awesome. Either way, you move on. Have some hot chocolate or something.

[Spartanburger]

Hammertime80 wrote...

Can someone please catch me up? The beginning of this thread was "OMG MULTIPLAYER IS TEH BADZ." and then 30 pages later we end up at "Eh, co-op wouldn't be too bad." What did I miss?

you really, really don't want to know...

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

maxpowers2525 wrote...

well the single player went from 40 hrs prob to 20 just like that sad day for shepard

Now that might be a drastic assumption. And that is coming from someone who is very disappointed by the MP/CO-OP news. VERY DISAPPOINTED INDEED! At best we can assume any or all vehicle segments are lousy on-rail segments, exploration is probably not even gonna mesure up to ME2 standards, combat will be very linear and AI (both friendly and enemy) will be as dumb and as easy to deal with as before.

Ehh! I pray that I'm wrong. Honestly, I think I'm just gonna give up on gaming until the industry get's their heads out of their ****es and realize that there are other ways to extend the replayability of their games. 

[Ghost Lightning]

DuckSoup wrote...

Oh god, not the resource argument again *facepalm*

Again, we have no idea what resources or budgets Bioware had when it came to this game. Maybe they had one really, really full pool? Maybe they had two teams with two full pools? 

Until you've played the game, you can't comment on whether they have sacrificed anything for the addition of MP.

That's not true at all. If they left out multiplayer then they'd have two full pools just for single player. So of course they sacrificed for MP. 

[VallenValiant]

KingDan97 wrote...

VallenValiant wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

The problem with people claiming it will take away from the length of the game is that any fault they see in the game they will automatically assume its mp fault. No matter what. It probably wouldn't be the fault of MP since the game was basically a finished almost a year ago.

And how do we know that for sure? Because they said so? Because Bioware doesn't lie?

This is a feature REVEAL not the secret machinations of an evil entity. Several Bioware employees tweeted last year about the game's main story being fully playable start to finish last year around chirstmas.

A "feature", indeed. One they had to keep hidden for months.

didymos1120 wrote...

VallenValiant wrote...

Actually, yes, that IS my logic. Lie = untrustworthy. That's pretty much how it works in real life.

And
you've never once, not ever, told a lie yourself? Not even a little
one?  Because if you have, then you're untrustworthy too.

Indeed you agree with me. And? Your point being?

[darknoon5]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Jorina Leto wrote...

darknoon5 wrote...

Sure, may not be against anybody else directly, but it gives you an advantage against the average ME2 gamer.

This sentence doesn't make any sence. Modding in Singleplayer cannot give you an advantage against anyone.

The games don't even feature high scores, where this could be considered cheating.

You can't see how it gives an advantage? Come on, for one it makes a difficulty like insanity mode much easier.

"Yeah, I got ME2's achievement for insanity. Doesn't matter that I had unlimited health and ammo, though."

See where I'm going?

And what does someone else doing that have to do with you?   Does it make your experience of the game less enjoyable?  Does it take away from your gameplay or ruin the story for you somehow? 

It doesn't affect my experience, but it does mean they've reached a goal illegally.

It's called cheating, lol. Unless you think an achievement for not dying once in a campaign gained through giving max health via a save game editor is legit? Here's another definition for cheating:

To violate rules deliberately, as in a game: was accused of cheating at cards.

Sounds close enough to me. But I can't be bothered to argue over such a minute detail.

Anyway, this is irrelevant, seeing as my original point is there's very little/no real modding for ME, besides textures and editing a few values. And that complaining you can't mod ME3 is silly.

The thing that makes violating rules bad is that it has a negative impact on someone else. 

If no one is harmed, where's the issue? 

(And there's more modding possible than you probably realize in ME2.) 

I'm not saying it's morally wrong haha. I'm just saying it is, at least in my view, cheating, not modding. Anybody can change the ammo capacity of a thermal clip to 99999999999, or however it is you actually mod it. (I don't have ME2 for PC)

As for modding, there is probably more then I realize, but nothing that extends to new models or locations. Being able to play as a vorcha with a pink avenger with infinite ammo isn't my idea of worthwhile modding.

[ThePwener]

I knew it I knew it I knew it!

Everyone laughed at me, they mocked me and called me crazy, but ME3 has MP and I always knew it!

Take that Forum! Hahahahahaha

[Nayt Navare]

Phaedon wrote...

Vertigo_1 says that the latest confirmation was during Comic Con:

http://bit.ly/oFo2Sg @ 8:45

"We couldn't find a way that didn't compromise the Mass Effect single player experience."

While I'm not jumping to hysterics, but as an English teacher IRL, this tells me that either this was a lie through omission type of thing, or he is basically saying "Multiplayer has compromised the single player experience."  Funny and sad, either way, though we obciously knows what he means.

Back to the English teacher thing, though- I'm insanely OCD, as it bugs me to no end that he said "an multiplayer...." in that tweet.

[Bekkael]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

You will need gold for this, I am a gold xbox subscriber bu a lot of my friends are only silver, but really enjoy the ME series.

I'm gold too. PC players won't have to do anything additional...

We will probably have to install a spyware Origin.

I won't like it, but I'm a **** and I'll have it anyway. I'll have Battlefield 3 already.

Oh. Forgot about the Origin thing. I'm sorry.

[didymos1120]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

 (And yes, "we spent more money / time" is still a matter of resources that could have been spent on the SP contect / gameplay.)

But that we have no way of knowing whether or not they actually would have been spent, instead of, say, being allocated to some completely different project, and possibly one in a completely different EA studio.

[Ruud333]

Genshie wrote...

Those post were made a while back before the multiplayer rumor was confirmed.

They were also made before there was a 'watertight' denial of MP, and yet you seemed so sure.  It seemed to really bother you that we couldn't get it through our thick skulls

[Zakatak757]

Player 1 - Sovereign
Player 2 - Harbinger
Player 3 - Spider-Reaper thing from trailer

[klxfx]

Hammertime80 wrote...

Can someone please catch me up? The beginning of this thread was "OMG MULTIPLAYER IS TEH BADZ." and then 30 pages later we end up at "Eh, co-op wouldn't be too bad." What did I miss?

About 30 pages of pure, white hot hatred of multiplayer

Seriously though, all we know is that the multiplayer is co-op and that more info is coming over the next few days (wednesday I believe)

[Killjoy Cutter]

iakus wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Again, for the 100th time today, how are they ruining the SP experience? They aren't one and the same. They are two seperate games. You don't have to play MP. 

Are people even thinking before they post? 

They're not seperate games unless they are seperate installations.  If I can't install ME3 campaign mode without installing multiplayer, they are in fact one and the same.  Just different features of the same game.

 Will SP powers be altered to "balance" for MP?  Will enemies?    Squadmates?  WIll any missions or dialogue or plotlines in SP be left out because they can't shoehorn everything and MP onto the disks?  Will missing features be relegated to paid DLCs because of this?  Will I have to have an online connection to play SP?  Will I need Origin just to play my Shepard?  

WIll ME3 be an "okay"40 hour game when it could have been an extraordinary 50 hour game, because of resource/space limitations?

BINGO. 

All resources are fungible.  Money, time, disk space, etc.  Anything put towards MP could have been put towards SP instead, but wasn't. 

(And if you think MP balance issues aren't a major PITA for SP content, look at how much the PVE players in a game like WoW suffer through change after change because of the whining and moaning and griping of PVP players complaining about each other's classes and powers.)

[wadeconty7]

Hammertime80 wrote...

Can someone please catch me up? The beginning of this thread was "OMG MULTIPLAYER IS TEH BADZ." and then 30 pages later we end up at "Eh, co-op wouldn't be too bad." What did I miss?

Basically posts getting deleted and mods getting angry. 

[darknoon5]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

iakus wrote...

DuckSoup wrote...

Again, for the 100th time today, how are they ruining the SP experience? They aren't one and the same. They are two seperate games. You don't have to play MP. 

Are people even thinking before they post? 

They're not seperate games unless they are seperate installations.  If I can't install ME3 campaign mode without installing multiplayer, they are in fact one and the same.  Just different features of the same game.

 Will SP powers be altered to "balance" for MP?  Will enemies?    Squadmates?  WIll any missions or dialogue or plotlines in SP be left out because they can't shoehorn everything and MP onto the disks?  Will missing features be relegated to paid DLCs because of this?  Will I have to have an online connection to play SP?  Will I need Origin just to play my Shepard?  

WIll ME3 be an "okay"40 hour game when it could have been an extraordinary 50 hour game, because of resource/space limitations?

BINGO. 

All resources are fungible.  Money, time, disk space, etc.  Anything put towards MP could have been put towards SP instead, but wasn't. 

(And if you think MP balance issues aren't a major PITA for SP content, look at how much the PVE players in a game like WoW suffer through change after change because of the whining and moaning and griping of PVP players complaining about each other's classes and powers.)

Yeah, but considering MP is likely the reason for the delay, and ME3 was originally being released in what, novemeber, those resources would most likely have never touched the SP campaign.

Modifié par darknoon5, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:08 .

[VallenValiant]

1136342t54 wrote...

VallenValiant wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

VallenValiant wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

The problem with people claiming it will take away from the length of the game is that any fault they see in the game they will automatically assume its mp fault. No matter what. It probably wouldn't be the fault of MP since the game was basically a finished almost a year ago.

And how do we know that for sure? Because they said so? Because Bioware doesn't lie?

And how do I know your not just a troll? Because you say so?

Seriously going by your logic anyone or any organization that has lied before should never be trusted period and is unfit to do anything.

Actually, yes, that IS my logic. Lie = untrustworthy. That's pretty much how it works in real life.

Then leave your country and live out in the wilderness away from any authorities. Hell leave your family and any other human being because you know what? Everyone has lied, avoided the truth or both.

Why the hell should I exile myself when other people lie? My point stands; I will believe what Bioware says when I see it. Their words are no good anymore. Especially since people in this very forum try to justify it as normal activity.

[Acerlux]

Abirn wrote...

Acerlux wrote...

The... I guess I'll call it pessimism (instead of blindly labeling it ignorance) in this thread truly depresses me. I cannot fathom why the inclusion of a CO-OP multiplayer mode somehow ruins the game. Co-op modes in games are quite possibly my favorites and I'm very excited to see one implemented in my favorite game universe.

A few months ago bioware was specifically asked if there was going to be multiplayer.  They responded by saying that no, ME3 is a singleplayer RPG. 

Know you know why people are so upset.

What were they supposed to do? Out a feature that they had been working on in secret, ruining any chance for marketing momentum to be gained from it? They weren't ready to reveal the multiplayer yet. Answering that question honestly would be revealing the multiplayer. They don't have carte blanche to reveal features whenever they want.

Even so, the reaction I'm seeing isn't primarily a "Bioware lied to us, that disappoints me." its a "OH MY GOD BIOWARE PUT IN MULTIPLAYER THE GAME IS RUINED SO I'MMA CANCEL MY PREORDER BECAUSE THEY SOLD OUT AND NOW MASS EFFECT IS ANOTHER CALL OF DUTY!"

I know that doesn't represent everybody. But I think the average IQ on this forum drops 3 points every time I see one of those posts.

[Edge 7]

let the haters hate. won't change a thing.

on a side note

silverhammer08 wrote...
Bulletstorm on its own was good fun, but I don't see Co-Op working in ME3... it was never meant to have any kind of Multiplayer and all of a sudden it gets tacked on...

I'd argue that with Mass Effect's defense and power systems, there is greater potential for a meaningful co-op experience than most games have.

[Fiery Phoenix]

iakus wrote...


They're not seperate games unless they are seperate installations.  If I can't install ME3 campaign mode without installing multiplayer, they are in fact one and the same.  Just different features of the same game.

 Will SP powers be altered to "balance" for MP?  Will enemies?    Squadmates?  WIll any missions or dialogue or plotlines in SP be left out because they can't shoehorn everything and MP onto the disks?  Will missing features be relegated to paid DLCs because of this?  Will I have to have an online connection to play SP?  Will I need Origin just to play my Shepard?  

WIll ME3 be an "okay"40 hour game when it could have been an extraordinary 50 hour game, because of resource/space limitations?

Yes, pretty much all of this post. Which is why I believe the best solution would be to have multiplayer put on its own disk, like Bungie did with Halo 3: ODST.

Modifié par Fiery Phoenix, 10 octobre 2011 - 09:10 .