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[Mr. Gogeta34]

Will this co-op support split-screen?

[ratzerman]

Cartims wrote...

Oooohhhhh...with the new MP for ME3....can we now play on orgy for extra achievements...lol

If there is any justice in this harsh, uncaring world...

Just don't tell FOX News.

[Swimming Ferret]

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

[Doug4130]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Another game? Last time I checked Mass Effect was a Story based game. If it adds to the story, then why not?

But I fear doing it now has detracted from the single player experience. It's a valid concern, is it not?

what if they were doing it from the start?  What if it's not the same team stopping work on all things single player and it's handled by a seperate team who otherwise wouldn't have much on the go? 

[1136342t54_]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

Good thing that there are separate teams for the SP and MP eh?

[didymos1120]

Darkeus wrote...

Just because thery are satisfied means nothing if the game is crap because of wasted time on MP..  Point, blank, simple.

Yeah, it's simple alright.  Tricky part is actually proving that.  Without a lot of internal docs, I don't see how you could even start.

[Ghost Lightning]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Will this co-op support split-screen?

Likely not. To double render a game like ME2 would be damn near impossible on the 360 so with the improved visuals in ME3 it's highly unlikely. 

[saMoorai]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Another game? Last time I checked Mass Effect was a Story based game. If it adds to the story, then why not?

But I fear doing it now has detracted from the single player experience. It's a valid concern, is it not?

That I can get, But The Bioware devs have already said that its the same length if not longer then ME2 not counting the Co-op. 

[Swimming Ferret]

1136342t54 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

Good thing that there are separate teams for the SP and MP eh?

No. I don't care. Seems like a crap idea to me, no matter who does it. Seriously, only 3 months?

[1136342t54_]

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Will this co-op support split-screen?

Likely not. To double render a game like ME2 would be damn near impossible on the 360 so with the improved visuals in ME3 it's highly unlikely. 

Nearly every co op game I've played is split screen. I doubt this wouldn't be.

[evilmunky80]

Meh, it's not gonna stop me getting the game and more than likely loving it (the first 2 are definitely in my top 5 all time). I'll maybe try it once but to be honest all my muliplayer needs are pretty much met by CoD.

[SteelerWayne]

I want to hear more info on this. My first reaction is as long as it doesn't take away from the single-player story, I'm cool with it.

[1136342t54_]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

Good thing that there are separate teams for the SP and MP eh?

No. I don't care. Seems like a crap idea to me, no matter who does it. Seriously, only 3 months?

It means your previous post wouldn't make sense because whatever time they are spending on MP another team is using that time to polish ME3 SP.

[JeffZero]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

Good thing that there are separate teams for the SP and MP eh?

No. I don't care. Seems like a crap idea to me, no matter who does it. Seriously, only 3 months?

What? Are you implying that you believe there are only three months to develop the multiplayer aspect? There's guaranteed to be a longer period for its creation.

[javierabegazo]

*pops into thread*


Interesting....

*Goes back to dieing in Dark Souls*

[rapscallioness]

gamer_girl wrote...

rapscallioness wrote...


          *Incoming distress call from BSN*

BSN: "Plz BW.... We want it to be Single Player so badly...plz..... BIOWARE PLZ!"

BW: *Request Denied.
         Setting New Course for Multiplayer.* 
       
         "Many decisions lie ahead. None of them easy."
www.youtube.com/watch   (from the WoW kid and Mass Effect spoof)

Technically ME3 is still SP. It is now SP, or MP or both.

*facepalm* it was a joke..........

but, oh, "it's now sp, or mp or both"...that clears things up <_<

[GuardianAngel470]

Darkeus wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...



So I'll ask again: If Bioware is satisfied with singleplayer and they are satisfied with gameplay, AI, and all that, why not make a coop option if EA asks them to? If fixing what isn't broken ends up breaking it, are you or I better or worse off?

I believe I made my point.  Just because thery are satisfied means nothing if the game is crap because of wasted time on MP..  Point, blank, simple.

And my saying it is unwanted is seeing the reaction from a multitude of sites, not just here.

It is an uneeded feature that odds are has taken away from the single player experience with time and resources.  That is my opinion, and opinion I believe is correct.

It will be a wasted feature and only a handful will play it.  This will not bring in new players.

Again, waste of time.  There can be resources used to improve the game and squash bugs.  Hell, like one person said, how about making sure FILE TRANSFERS work 99% of the time?

I disagree that it is taking resources away because of things I've already illustrated but you're right, is just opinion.

I think the rest of your argument doesn't hold much water because Bioware have consistently created things that the majority of the population never uses.

I don't believe a feature that gets used very little is wasted. Entire classes in ME are used significanlty less than Soldier but I don't believe that work was wasted.

I believe in options. I buy everything based on what if statements because I often change things around. I feel like that is the most logical way to live life because things change.

But I've said all I feel like I need to say. Have fun kids, pointless discussions are always fun.

Modifié par GuardianAngel470, 10 octobre 2011 - 11:30 .

[toolfan9284]

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Will this co-op support split-screen?

For consoles I would imagine.  With BW/EA utilizing Origin some sort of match-making will be involved where you can sign up with friends online.  Thinking Co-op will be similar to Rage different missions then the main story arc, though it would be really cool to play the whole game co-op with 2 friends.

[Doug4130]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

Good thing that there are separate teams for the SP and MP eh?

No. I don't care. Seems like a crap idea to me, no matter who does it. Seriously, only 3 months?

well it's a damn good thing the world doesn't march to the beat of your drum.  Cry about it all you want, a lot of people are gonna enjoy the multiplayer part of the game after they've beaten the story 5 times and still want something to do in the game afterwards.

[JeffZero]

1136342t54 wrote...

Ghost Lightning wrote...

Mr. Gogeta34 wrote...

Will this co-op support split-screen?

Likely not. To double render a game like ME2 would be damn near impossible on the 360 so with the improved visuals in ME3 it's highly unlikely. 

Nearly every co op game I've played is split screen. I doubt this wouldn't be.

Did Bioshock 2, Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood and Gears of War offer split-screen? No, really, I have no idea. Did they?

[Chewgumma]

Swimming Ferret wrote...

:| Good thing that 3 months couldn't have been used on the actual game instead of this, eh?

The problem with this logic is that the single player already bordered on completion by the time the game was delayed. The co-op missions probably come out of bonus resources and man power not required for buffing out the bugs in the main game.

[Eclipse_9990]

I was originally watching this thread because I knew the amount of disdain, and butthurt generated by some of the fans would be enough to keep me entertained, and laughing for weeks.

But I must admit, some of these reactions seem a little childish, and petty. Its pretty sad. I don't know what to say. :/

[Nauks]

All ominous and depressing foreshadowing aside.

As long as we don't have to use the damn thing, and we aren't punished for wanting to retain the SP game that Mass Effect was, I.E. companions or w/e mechanics being needlessly gimped if we're not using co-op.
I guess it isn't that big of a deal, it certainly falls along the lines of "if it ain't broke don't fix it" but it's Bioware after all, so here's to giving them the benefit of a doubt.

We can bet our asses that Origin will be required for ME3 with this feature though, no question.

[Dragoonlordz]

I'll put it this way...

1. I would have preferred they spent the extra money and work team working on more content for the single player experience in otherwords the story and content relating to ingame missions and plot. End result being less playtime and less replay value of the (main plot) story single player. If any game does not last minimum of 40-60 hours I never buy it no matter how puffed up people are about it. It needs to have miniunum of 40+ hours for me to even consider buying in first place and no that does not include MP at all. That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game. The overall game including all the padding of additional content for me needs to be minimum of the 60+ hours I mentioned earlier.

2. I think half the DLC will be co-op DLC packs and not single player content packs, plus a nagging 'feeling' the stripping out of side missions and non plot related content is in turn going to be remade as multiplayer packs to sell back to the customer.

3. Worrying direction of Bioware in general regarding their recent trends. With regard to ME2 stripping out what I consider to be RPG elements in favour of more shooter/combat elements which they say will address with ME3 but in reailty get the impression by their intentions that they consider RPG elements to mean just [yet more] combat mechanics rather than RPG story and non combat elements. Then there's DA2 by 'most' peoples standards a sub par (especially for Bioware title) and felt rushed and just simply far from a great game which actually went in a different direction to what most people was hoping for a sequal. Then there's this new fascination with social games and multiplayer plus MMOs route they have taken with Dragon Age: Legends, SWTOR and now ME3 co-op.

I get the distinct feeling Bioware no longer wish to make single player RPG's or maybe even RPG's and instead wish to make hack and slash or shooter action titles now in order to compete mainly with GoW and such games, adding MP onto it because those other action and shooter titles have it. There is reason for lack of faith in Bioware from ME2 to DA2 to Kotor being made into MMO aswell as being decieved by manipulation of truths over past few months regarding MP in ME3.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 10 octobre 2011 - 11:33 .

[Darkeus]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Just because thery are satisfied means nothing if the game is crap because of wasted time on MP..  Point, blank, simple.

Yeah, it's simple alright.  Tricky part is actually proving that.  Without a lot of internal docs, I don't see how you could even start.

I am sure they don't do thing that much different from other similar companies....