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[Dragoonlordz]

didymos1120 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

 That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.

Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?

The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish. Though ME2 felt drastically shorter due to nature of pokemon style "gotta collect them all" feel to collecting companions then tiny main quest. If ME3 is based of main questline time in comparrission then yes I admit it is a worry to me.

Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 10 octobre 2011 - 11:40 .

[In Exile]

Dragoonlordz wrote...
I get the distinct feeling Bioware no longer wish to make single player RPG's or maybe even RPG's and instead wish to make hack and slash or shooter action titles now in order to compete mainly with GoW and such games, adding MP onto it because those other action and shooter titles have it. There is reason for lack of faith in Bioware from ME2 to DA2 to Kotor being made into MMO aswell as being decieved by manipulation of truths over past few months regarding MP in ME3.

Bioware started with multiplayer RPGs as an RPG maker, e.g. BG/BG2/NWN

[1136342t54_]

Abirn wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

saMOOrai182 wrote...

Another game? Last time I checked Mass Effect was a Story based game. If it adds to the story, then why not?

But I fear doing it now has detracted from the single player experience. It's a valid concern, is it not?

That I can get, But The Bioware devs have already said that its the same length if not longer then ME2 not counting the Co-op. 

They also said ME3 was a singleplayer game and there was no Multiplayer.

Still haven't seen anyone from Bioware conclusively state that there was no Multiplayer.

[gamer_girl]

Gh0st_00 wrote...

I have this odd feeling that every slight problem or error in the singleplayer is going to be blamed on multiplayer. Whether it makes sense or not.

"My favorite character isn't a squadmate? IT"S BECAUSE OF CO-OP"

We all know this won't happen. It's not like BSN is full of people who find reasons to complain and choose insolence over valid critiques. People on here are civil and support BW in all of their decisions instead of finding insignificantly miniscule reas...
WARNING: SARCASM OVERLOAD

[KotorEffect3]

I didn't want MP but I am keeping an open mind. AC:Brotherhood's single player was better than I thought it would be despite the fact that they added multiplayer.

[KenKenpachi]

JeffZero wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

One of the few times I agree with IGN.

200 likes / 282 dislikes

Ahaha.

Anyway, one of the top comments asked Greg to grow up and die. That's... a silly thing to say.

Lol god its ME:2 again, let the bomb and bio attack threats start tomorrow.

[jake112296]

Everyone knows EA's the problem, go yell at them instead of bioware!
everyone loves to hate EA

[Zakatak757]

To be fair.

co-op missions > worthless anomaly missions

[JeffZero]

Dragoonlordz wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

 That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.

Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?

The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.

And I spoke with Jesse Houston via twitter earlier and he claims that counting only single-player, if anything, ME3 will still be bigger. He's on 30 hours during his current file which I'm guessing is impressive to him but for folks like me it's nothing -- but that's just a matter of how long it takes someone to play the games. He clearly stated it via twitter as though it were comparable in a positive manner.

[1136342t54_]

JeffZero wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

 That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.

Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?

The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.

And I spoke with Jesse Houston via twitter earlier and he claims that counting only single-player, if anything, ME3 will still be bigger. He's on 30 hours during his current file which I'm guessing is impressive to him but for folks like me it's nothing -- but that's just a matter of how long it takes someone to play the games. He clearly stated it via twitter as though it were comparable in a positive manner.

According to Dragonloordz Shepard was looking out a window for hours during that playthrough 

[didymos1120]

Someone With Mass wrote...

One of the few times I agree with IGN.

Um, which opinion was it that you agreed with?  Because there were two distinct ones presented.

[TheShogunOfHarlem]

1136342t54 wrote...

TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...
Geez. That has always been the most weak sauce argument for not having exploration. In a war you need: rescourses to keep fighting that war, Intelligence to try to learn as much about you enemy as possible,  Clandstine Star systems and Worlds for providing a save haven for non-combatants and staging areas for assaults. All of these material needs can only be found through EXPLORATION! Without them the War is hopeless.

The Council is a galaxy spanning government that has already gave the Normandy all the resources it needs. Seriously There is no time to mine **** for one frigate while the Galaxies military is getting so butt ****ed to the point where one of the enemies smallest ground vehicles can take ship weaponry!

Do you honestly believe that the Normandy is the only ship capable of gathering resources?

You conveniently left out my other examples for having exploration. And if you honestly think that I believe the Normandy is the only ship capable of exploration then you are lost. It is one of a likely dwindling fleet of ships. Everybody has to do their part to sustain the war. 

As far as having "all the resources given by the Council" If you honestly think that enough against the Reapers much less to sustain war (likely of attrition) that wil rage for some time then you are fooling yourself. The War is probably gonna require the Entire Anti-Reaper task force to retreat on a massive scale. Whatever the Council may have given you or whatever you have at your disposal would most likely have been either destroyed/repurposed by the Reapers or would be (or will eventually) exhausted by Shepard's task force. More will be needed, Intelligence must be gathered and secret bases must be found.

Throwing all of you forces at the the Reapers as you seem to suggest would be a needless waste of lives and rescourses and would quicken the Galactic genocide.  

[ratzerman]

Someone With Mass wrote...

One of the few times I agree with IGN.

Couldn't agree more.

Side note: gotta love youtube, making you sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.

[RocketManSR2]

I'm getting BF3 for my MP fix, I don't need (or want) it in ME3. Please make it optional DLC so I can skip it. Please don't force it on us by putting it on the disc. That's not what I'm paying you for, BioWare. I pay you my $60 for epic SP, not half-assed Horde modes.

[NUM13ER]

I'm disappointed to be honest but I guess it was unavoidable given EA's desire to have a multiplayer element in most of their games. I'd hoped the third would avoid this. Now on top of that gimmick of Kinect voice commands, we have co-op multiplayer. Two features that I can't even pretend to say interest me at all. I just hope the time they dedicated to adding features I didn't want doesn't take away from the single player experience. Hopefully the extra three months was solely to ensure this didn't happen.

I will say that like a lot of other people i do recall BioWare, on several occasions, stating there would be no multiplayer. So that's a strange thing to lie about.

[Travie]

JeffZero wrote...

Someone With Mass wrote...

One of the few times I agree with IGN.

200 likes / 282 dislikes

Ahaha.

Anyway, one of the top comments asked Greg to grow up and die. That's... a silly thing to say.

Hahha, so much anger.

[Dragoonlordz]

JeffZero wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

 That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.

Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?

The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.

And I spoke with Jesse Houston via twitter earlier and he claims that counting only single-player, if anything, ME3 will still be bigger. He's on 30 hours during his current file which I'm guessing is impressive to him but for folks like me it's nothing -- but that's just a matter of how long it takes someone to play the games. He clearly stated it via twitter as though it were comparable in a positive manner.

Which is why it is only a concern right now. But until finishs and gives playtime so get idea of how long in total, plus ideally more than one persons playtime in order to get some sort of average it will remain to be a concern, adding MP merely adds to this concern but I can't say 100% it will or has affected game length.

[XyleJKH]

ugh I have never nerd raged over anything EVER why does this bother me so much
its just a clear sign that small developers are actually at the whims of the huge companies that own them now
DAH!

[Dragoonlordz]

1136342t54 wrote...

JeffZero wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dragoonlordz wrote...

 That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.

Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?

The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.

And I spoke with Jesse Houston via twitter earlier and he claims that counting only single-player, if anything, ME3 will still be bigger. He's on 30 hours during his current file which I'm guessing is impressive to him but for folks like me it's nothing -- but that's just a matter of how long it takes someone to play the games. He clearly stated it via twitter as though it were comparable in a positive manner.

According to Dragonloordz Shepard was looking out a window for hours during that playthrough 

There are hundreds of ways to increase playtime without making progress in plot was my point. I guess that went whoosh above your head at the time.

[Feops1]

Meh.

The series doesn't really play well to the strengths of multiplayer. Conversation, story, such things.

There's a few ways to make it work without wrecking things. For example it would be neat to be able to replay missions with some buddies pretending to be your NPC squadmates, but... that's still mostly novelty. At best, it's just diverting resources that could have been spent on improving the single player experience.

As a cynical guess, it's going to be a way to push Origin. EA is very annoying.

[blacqout]

I'm not going to read an 80+ page thread.

Nothing in the OP correlates the claim made in the thread's title. Where have co-op missions been officially confirmed?

[marshalleck]

Bioware aren't a "small" developer and haven't been for many years. Small developers don't have multiple studios distributed all over North America.

[JeffZero]

My ME1 files are typically around 45 hours and ME2 hovers at just shy of 60. So I'm a stroller too.

[Kusy]

Ho ho ho... I like where this is going.

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 10 octobre 2011 - 11:46 .

[marshalleck]

blacqout wrote...

I'm not going to read an 80+ page thread.

Nothing in the OP correlates the claim made in the thread's title. Where have co-op missions been officially confirmed?

lol