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Dragoonlordz wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.
Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?
The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.
In Exile wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
I get the distinct feeling Bioware no longer wish to make single player RPG's or maybe even RPG's and instead wish to make hack and slash or shooter action titles now in order to compete mainly with GoW and such games, adding MP onto it because those other action and shooter titles have it. There is reason for lack of faith in Bioware from ME2 to DA2 to Kotor being made into MMO aswell as being decieved by manipulation of truths over past few months regarding MP in ME3.
Bioware started with multiplayer RPGs as an RPG maker, e.g. BG/BG2/NWN
ratzerman wrote...
Side note: gotta love youtube, making you sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.
TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...
You conveniently left out my other examples for having exploration. And if you honestly think that I believe the Normandy is the only ship capable of exploration then you are lost. It is one of a likely dwindling fleet of ships. Everybody has to do their part to sustain the war.1136342t54 wrote...
TheShogunOfHarlem wrote...
Geez. That has always been the most weak sauce argument for not having exploration. In a war you need: rescourses to keep fighting that war, Intelligence to try to learn as much about you enemy as possible, Clandstine Star systems and Worlds for providing a save haven for non-combatants and staging areas for assaults. All of these material needs can only be found through EXPLORATION! Without them the War is hopeless.
The Council is a galaxy spanning government that has already gave the Normandy all the resources it needs. Seriously There is no time to mine **** for one frigate while the Galaxies military is getting so butt ****ed to the point where one of the enemies smallest ground vehicles can take ship weaponry!
Do you honestly believe that the Normandy is the only ship capable of gathering resources?
As far as having "all the resources given by the Council" If you honestly think that enough against the Reapers much less to sustain war (likely of attrition) that wil rage for some time then you are fooling yourself. The War is probably gonna require the Entire Anti-Reaper task force to retreat on a massive scale. Whatever the Council may have given you or whatever you have at your disposal would most likely have been either destroyed/repurposed by the Reapers or would be (or will eventually) exhausted by Shepard's task force. More will be needed, Intelligence must be gathered and secret bases must be found.
Throwing all of you forces at the the Reapers as you seem to suggest would be a needless waste of lives and rescourses and would quicken the Galactic genocide.
Nah. If they announce Origin is mandatory for all ME3 PC copies, it will be even worse.GuardianAngel470 wrote...
hypothead wrote...
And here we are 86 pages later and all I can say is...wow is it really that bad?
It's the end of the world dude, where have you been?
didymos1120 wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
Side note: gotta love youtube, making you sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.
Gotta love Adblock. Don't have to sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.
javierabegazo wrote...
Priestly came out in the thread and commented about the 4 player coop missions. The reason why it wasn't in the OP was because I have a life, I was outside picking up my copy of Dark Souls, give me a sec to add the link to read Priestly's comments.
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hypothead wrote...
And here we are 87 pages later and all I can say is...wow is it really that bad?
Oh, Didy.... never change, OK?didymos1120 wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
Side note: gotta love youtube, making you sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.
Gotta love Adblock. Don't have to sit through a 30 second commercial to watch a 90 second video.
BasilKarlo wrote...
Darkeus wrote...
BasilKarlo wrote...
Why? Why is it automatically a bad idea? You have no idea what it will even be like. Calm the hell down and wait until you know something about it.
Hmm, lets see.
1. Not needed in this SINGLE PLAYER GAME
2. Majority of fan base does not want or care about co-op so it is a wasted effort to begin with.
3. It shows EA's fingers in Bioware and the decreasing independence that they have from their corpoate masters.
4. Any kind of multiplayer takes resources and time aways from perfecting the Single Player. It can be said that the Single player could suffer just by there being MP because of this.
So if we add this all up it comes down to: Why waste money and resources for a traditionally single player game to add a co-op mode that most of your fans of the game will NEVER use and hardly ever play? It can't be for new players because this is:
A). A terrible time to bring in new players since it is teh END of the trilogy and. An RPG. Adding co-op is not going to change casual fans perceptions of the game and what it is.
You're making too many assumptions to be taken seriously. You assume that you speak for the majority of ME players. You assume that Bioware is adding this because their evil overlords demand it and not because they want to extend the life of the finale of their biggest IP. You assume that they don't know how to make a MP mode that works well, even though a lot of the people working on TOR are also working on ME3. You assume that they took resources away from the story/campaign to do this and didn't have a separate team working on it. You assume Bioware should be fine with each installment selling just as many or fewer units than the previous installment.
All you're doing is making assumptions and not making an argument to support your pessimism. I'm optimistic and hopeful. This could be a great way to add life beyond several playthroughs to observe the differences choices make. And it should help ensure a lenghty DLC schedule.
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Yes? Maybe? Possibly? Plausible? Other words?Gh0st_00 wrote...
hypothead wrote...
And here we are 87 pages later and all I can say is...wow is it really that bad?
Welcome to BSN, where we blow everything out of porportion. Good, bad, unneeded, who cares? Everything deserves a 90 page thread of rage and hate.
On topic though, I have to wonder if this means ME3 will require Origin.
didymos1120 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.
Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?
The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.
It took you that long without all the side-quest stuff? Because that's the requirement of yours I'm responding to.
Heather Cline wrote...
I am not happy about this MP mode in ME3. Take a look at Fable 2 and Fable 3. The MP modes sucked. In Fable 2 the MP/Co-op mode was tacked on and was useless. Hell it was hard to get any of the MP/Co-op achievements for the game. Fable 3's Co-op/MP mode was a bit better than the second game but the Co-op/MP mode caused bugs in the game, caused achievements to not activate, caused characters in the game that were developing along a certain path to develop along all 3 paths.
I do not like Co-op/MP modes in my single player games. Especially those that require you to do the MP/Co-op to get achievements. Because not everyone does online gaming like this.
Seriously they just ruined ME3 for me.
javierabegazo wrote...
Priestly came out in the thread and commented about the 4 player coop missions. The reason why it wasn't in the OP was because I have a life, I was outside picking up my copy of Dark Souls, give me a sec to add the link to read Priestly's comments.
didymos1120 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
That 40+ hours also has to be non side quest eatra things to do in game.
Even though neither of the other games has given you any reason to expect such a thing?
The previous games all lasted 50-60+ hours playtime for me from start to finish.
It took you that long without all the side-quest stuff? Because that's the requirement of yours I'm responding to.
>_>JeffZero wrote...
Mr.Kusy wrote...
JeffZero wrote...
NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...
I guess Half Life's the only one left that can carry that title whenever lifetime Valve decides to finish the damn thing. xD
...Half-Life has multiplayer...
Faliolurez... considering that Half Life gave birth to both Team Fortress and Counter Stike... you're dumb sir.
Faliolurez.
Hm.
I'll have to remember that one.
Look I'm upset too but maybe we should wait till wednesday. Maybe they will show us some gameplay into how it works.Heather Cline wrote...
I am not happy about this MP mode in ME3. Take a look at Fable 2 and Fable 3. The MP modes sucked. In Fable 2 the MP/Co-op mode was tacked on and was useless. Hell it was hard to get any of the MP/Co-op achievements for the game. Fable 3's Co-op/MP mode was a bit better than the second game but the Co-op/MP mode caused bugs in the game, caused achievements to not activate, caused characters in the game that were developing along a certain path to develop along all 3 paths.
I do not like Co-op/MP modes in my single player games. Especially those that require you to do the MP/Co-op to get achievements. Because not everyone does online gaming like this.
Seriously they just ruined ME3 for me.
Gh0st_00 wrote...
He was looking out windows for 40 hours...
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