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[111987]

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of them, play the campaign mode alone.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

[Prince Zeel]

Blooddrunk1004 wrote...

Answer: EA
That's all im gono say.

We all know its EA. EA is like a parasite, squirming its way into everything that is good and holy. Only to corrupt it with its MONEY DARKNESS.

Ask yourself this Bioware, how oh how did you manage to profit without EA games? Oh that's right, staying away from the casual player ******. THEY DONT BUY GAMES ANYWAYS. they PIRATE THAT SHTT. THEY ARE LOSERS.

Modifié par Prince Zeel, 10 octobre 2011 - 07:43 .

[Stardusk78]

Prince Zeel wrote...

Bioware hasn't just lost its vision. It's lost all common fcking sense. Some suggestions I read sound like they come out of an asylum.

I do not understand why Bioware wastes so much time on these fangirls and casual market losers. They are the bottom tier of the game hierarchy. They know little to nothing about good games and yet Bioware thinks its wise to appeal to them.

When Bioware made ME1, it was bloody brilliant. me2, still good, but trying to appeal to BANG BANG idiots. and now, what do we got in me3? multiplayer and fking men in the bum. YAY, I'm so looking forward to this.


thumbs down Bioware. thumbs down.

I am not a fan of anal sex myself, but you don't have to have anal sex if you don't want to.

[Jorina Leto]

Bioware lost the vision with Mass Effect 2.

[GMagnum]

they did it w/ dragon age as well
origins = amazing
2 = wtf...............................

[Prince Zeel]

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

Pretty weak? Are you kooky for coca puffs or something? Jesus Motherfking GOD. Here's the only argument you'll ever need. Go back to whatever wal-mart you bought your console from, skip the RPG games and go pick up a SHOOTER . Do not, come to our games, and ask for your stupid features to be implemented.

The fking nerve.

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of

You might not be screaming, but your logic is obviously lacking, I'm sure you're drooling right now, trying to read all the little words in a sentence. Go back to CoD.

You better send a thank you Note to EA games. Elsewise fools like you, would still be playing GoW 3.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

Return to your games, heathen. Anything not totting a AK-47 would be sophisticated to you.

Modifié par Prince Zeel, 10 octobre 2011 - 07:44 .

[General User]

It has been my experience that when you try to please everybody you only end up pleasing nobody.

"Compromise" and "inclusion" are not characteristics of truly great works (video games included).

Maybe ME3 will fall flat on its face because they tried to reach out to too many people, maybe it will be an end to the trilogy worthy of its predecessors, only time will tell.

[Ghost-621]

You are loved. Know that good sir.

I'll say it again for everyone to see.

Bioware doesn't care about its fans. ME3 is a testament of how they just pissed all over the fanbase.

Cancel your preorders, buy it used. Don't buy the online pass.

Modifié par Ghost-621, 10 octobre 2011 - 07:45 .

[GMagnum]

BIOWARE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE

[Arcadian Legend]

 To Zeel:



Go on, hit me with your worst. I welcome it. Or don't. Whichever you prefer to do.

And to keep on topic, whether it's losing it's 'vison' or not, I still love the series. I started with ME1 by the way.

Modifié par DarkRiku7, 10 octobre 2011 - 07:49 .

[111987]

Prince Zeel wrote...

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

Pretty weak? Are you kooky for coca puffs or something? Jesus Motherfking GOD. Here's the only argument you'll ever need. Go back to whatever wal-mart you bought your console from, skip the RPG games and go pick up a SHOOTER . Do not, come to our games, and ask for your stupid features to be implemented.

The fking nerve.

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of

You might not be screaming, but your logic is obviously lacking, I'm sure you're drooling right now, trying to read all the little words in a sentence. Go back to CoD.

You better send a thank you Note to EA games. Elsewise fools like you, would still be playing GoW 3.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

Return to your games, heathen. Anything not totting a AK-47 would be sophisticated to you.

Did you address a single point I made, or was that ALL baseless personal attacks?

[SnowHeart1]

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

This sounds familiar... Oh yeah, DA2.

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of them, play the campaign mode alone.

I agree with the first part, but not your implied conclusion. Those are different styles of games. They are built from the beginning with an eye towards multiplayer and have correspondingly weaker RPG elements. That does not make them bad. That makes them different. The problem is when you try to be too many things to too many people... and wind up failing on all fronts.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

I thought the same thing about DA2. "Well, based on what I've seen so far, it looks like its going to be awesome."  That... did not turn out how I was hoping/expecting. I'm sorry if the ME dev team is suffering from a loss of faith as a consequence of what happened with DA2, but there it is.

Once we have more details about how co-op works, then we'll be able to make better informed decisions. But, for now, of course some people are concerned. Some are panicking and going all crazy ("Whaa, I'm canceling") before they even have details, but... To brush it off and use as examples games that are built from the ground up and conceptualized as MP-oriented games that happen to have some stories added in... no, that does not convince me.

(And, for the record, I have not canceled and do not plan to cancel my CE preorder. But that doesn't mean I think adding MP is a smart move, on a gameplay, marketing or business perspective.)

Modifié par SnowHeart1, 10 octobre 2011 - 07:48 .

[Prince Zeel]

111987 wrote...


Did you address a single point I made, or was that ALL baseless personal attacks?

1. This is an RPG game not a Shooter.
2. If you want a shooter, play a Shooter.
3. I don't see why a shooter features should be in an RPG game
4. Obviously you're a FPS gamer, why are you even here.

[GMagnum]

prince zeel u da man

[Arcadian Legend]

Rezources wrote...

I'm starting to suspect that Prince Zeel hasn't really learned how to conduct himself.

GASP!

Nooo.

[Thy King]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mass Effect [...] had a strong story and excellent voice acting to attract lovers of film, rich lore and exploration for open-world enthusiasts, and enough freedom with dialogue and romance to please roleplayers. However, the mechanics were a little shaky and underdeveloped. A lot of the elements seemed clunky and outdated, but many would argue that they added to its charm.

Mass Effect 2 changed a lot from the original because all of these elements gave it a bit of an identity crisis. The game felt like it couldn't decide whether it was a shooter with roleplaying elements, or an action-RPG with shooter combat. Attempts to fix flaws or try something new had mixed results, but most critics and gamers agree that, despite its faults, it was "better" than the original.

You make a very good point here. The way i see it is the following: 
Mass effect 2 had better 'gameflow'. The action was better and more intense, and the whole experience was way more polished and streamlined. On the flipside, ME2 reverted to the 'room-to-room' fighting/playing stile of all the other games ( you load a room, shoot some, load another room, do another task, load a third room, shoot some more, etc). Also the charm of making sure you had the best gear and the best team was gone, as was the believebility of  the whole team experience and replaced with generic leveling and misplaced semi-sexy eye candy.
Mass Effect 1 had much more immersion. The whole 'world'/universe was seamless (no obvious room-to-room fighting), the people you met where very believable and absolutely not over the top. There was still eye candy, but it was constrained and proportionate. All of this added to the game and made it much more intense and immersive. On the flipside of this was a truly crappy inventory system and some gameplay elements where just not quite polished enough (like the elevators or the MAKO + generic landscape).

If you would ask me personally, i like to play ME2 because it plays better, but i think ME1 is the better game because of the much higher immersion. In all i played them both about equal. 

I think Mass Effect 3 should forget about the MW-people and go back to its roots (ME1) with the smoothness of ME2. If they can nail the immersion of 1 with the smooth gameplay of 2, they would have the best game they can make.

And of course, dont forget story ME2 could use a few pointers on that too...

[Izhalezan]

Rezources wrote...

I'm starting to suspect that Prince Zeel hasn't really learned how to conduct himself.

He has, he's merely choosing not to.

[Prince Zeel]

Anyone who wanted multiplayer should be shot.

[Stardusk78]

Rezources wrote...

I'm starting to suspect that Prince Zeel hasn't really learned how to conduct himself.

Look at his registration date and his lack of registrated games, says it all.

[Ghost-621]

Well, it's pretty obvious to see who's been a fan since 2007 and who's been on the Mass of War bandwagon since 2009.

[IRMcGhee]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mass Effect was always about having something for everyone. The original attempted to bridge the gap between RPG and shooter. It took ye olde rogue/warrior/mage + goofy party members dynamic, expanded upon it, put it in space, and gave it guns, which means it also bridged the gap between fantasy gamers and sci-fi gamers. Who the hero is, what (s)he stands for, and what (s)he does is completely up to the player, but the game still manages to pack in all the personality and iconic weight of a per-defined hero into this user-generated avatar. It had a strong story and excellent voice acting to attract lovers of film, rich lore and exploration for open-world enthusiasts, and enough freedom with dialogue and romance to please roleplayers. However, the mechanics were a little shaky and underdeveloped. A lot of the elements seemed clunky and outdated, but many would argue that they added to its charm.

Mass Effect 2 changed a lot from the original because all of these elements gave it a bit of an identity crisis. The game felt like it couldn't decide whether it was a shooter with roleplaying elements, or an action-RPG with shooter combat. Attempts to fix flaws or try something new had mixed results, but most critics and gamers agree that, despite its faults, it was "better" than the original.

I really think ME3 is the game in the series that will finally embrace its catch-all nature. Want shooter? Awesome, because the combat's more refined and we put motherf*cking multiplayer in it. Want RPG? Even better, because we brought some of the customization back, made skill leveling more in-depth than it's ever been, and we extra-special promise that the ROLEPLAYING part will still be incredibly cinematic, yet deeply personal.

Because, f*ck it, genres are for sissies.

Excellent post, Admiral. Couldn't put it better myself.

[111987]

SnowHeart1 wrote...

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

This sounds familiar... Oh yeah, DA2.

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of them, play the campaign mode alone.

I agree with the first part, but not your implied conclusion. Those are different styles of games. They are built from the beginning with an eye towards multiplayer and have correspondingly weaker RPG elements. That does not make them bad. That makes them different. The problem is when you try to be too many things to too many people... and wind up failing on all fronts.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

I thought the same thing about DA2. "Well, based on what I've seen so far, it looks like its going to be awesome."  That... did not turn out how I was hoping/expecting. I'm sorry if the ME dev team is suffering from a loss of faith as a consequence of what happened with DA2, but there it is.

Once we have more details about how co-op works, then we'll be able to make better informed decisions. But, for now, of course some people are concerned. Some are panicking and going all crazy ("Whaa, I'm canceling") before they even have details, but... To brush it off and use as examples games that are built from the ground up and conceptualized as MP-oriented games that happen to have some stories added in... no, that does not convince me.

(And, for the record, I have not canceled and do not plan to cancel my CE preorder. But that doesn't mean I think adding MP is a smart move, on a gameplay, marketing or business perspective.)

I've actually never played the Dragon Age series, but I can understand why you would be concerned if the same developer had just recently disappointed you.

Dragon Age is a good example, but there are also examples of developers making a great game, than following it up with a crappy game, and then following that game up with an amazing game. Take Super Mario 64, Super Mario Sunshine, and Super Mario Galaxy. Mario 64 was revolutionary, and while Sunshine wasn't crappy, it definitley felt sub-par. But then comes Mario Galaxy, which was by far the best game of the three.

I feel that people should reserve judgement, but sadly, many people (not you, you seem to have an open mind at least) have their minds made up too early. It's sad because they could be missing out on a great gaming experience.

[CptBomBom00]

111987 wrote...

Mass Effect 3 looks to be the best game of the series, IMO. I've heard all the arguments against multiplayer and what not and they are honestly pretty weak. BioWare is intelligent to appeal to a wider audience. Why would you not want more money and games sold?

The characterization of CoD, Halo, and GoW fans on these forums is just pathetic. I personally play all of those games, along with both Mass Effect 1 and 2, and I am not a screaming, profane moron. There are thousands, if not millions of people like me out there. If you don't want to deal with any of them, play the campaign mode alone.

People are too quick to condemn the campaign just because of multiplayer, when from what we've seen of it, it looks amazing. The best combat features in the series by far, interesting and sophisticated RPG elements, and the culmination of an epic story with all our variables affecting the outcome.

I agree , I played these games too and same thing here no excitement and  no feeling EPIC.

[Izhalezan]

Stardusk78 wrote...

Rezources wrote...

I'm starting to suspect that Prince Zeel hasn't really learned how to conduct himself.

Look at his registration date and his lack of registrated games, says it all.

I'm gonna guess he had to go on forum vacation where he learned condut and now he's back on a new account.