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[Curl of the Burl]

 Man oh man!

I hope BioWare decides to add multiplayer to their games more often. The rage and pessimistic assumptions it brings gives me much joy, much joy indeed.

Modifié par Curl of the Burl, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:09 .

[didymos1120]

sedrikhcain wrote...
 I'm saying something will be different if you used MP to get there: a cutscene, some allies, a piece of equipment or some other resources. From the way they've put this, that has to be the case.

No, it MIGHT be the case. You've simply decided that it's fact, despite not having, you know, evidence.

[gamer_girl]

Darkeus wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

gamer_girl wrote...



-My point was that if multiplayer is removed, then it is denying the people that wanted multiplayer. The people that want a single player game aren't being denied a single player game. Why does the single-player-can't-even-be-in-this-game-even-if-I-don't-have-to-play-it audience hold precedence over the I-want-single-player audience?

Why do you need multiplayer in a traditionally single player RPG?  Why must the "We need multiplayer because it has to have it" crowd get their crappy feature in my Single Player Rpg?

Again you're making it all about you. This is (and I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this) an optional feature, and many people seem to want to play with their friends, myself included. "Your" single player RPG isn't going away, correct?

I only asked the same question back to you.  You said why should MP fans lose the feature.  I ask why was it included at all.  Fair question and not about me.  Just because I use my does not mean I am talking about me....  Sigh...

Your question wasn't even valid seeing as single player still exists in ME3. Nobody is taking "Your single player" away. They are adding an option that you don't even need to pursue, for people who enjoy multiplayer.

By why is it there in the first place when not needed which does and may more than you think? It can affect the SIngle player by the devs own admission.  It can add to the Single Player and it may go deeper than that and may influence it more than they are admitting.  Something I don't think you are thinking about.  You just believe the PR faq like gospel.

You make far too many assumptions. Might doesn't mean it will be more of an effect than the devs are saying. The best conclusion to draw right now is that at the very least what the devs say is true, because why would they say something that was a total fabrication? To assume that there MUST be more to it than what they say is ridiculous, and until more features are revealed, I'll believe that at the bare minimum, what that faq says is true.

I would actually say the same thing about you and assumptions to be honest.  There is a post above to you that explains it to you....  Project 20 dollar.  EA wants money and that money is golden when you put an INTEGRAL MP feature in a game that needs an ONLINE PASS.

Again, you were not thinking about it deep enough.

Or perhaps you're thinking about it too deeply. None of those responses had any evidence, it had a flawed Michael Moore esque conspiracy with no sources. Does anyone actually have any proof of EA's spendings and what they intended it to be spent on? No, and I doubt anyone here does BW and EA's finances, so to make that point is really just a very wild, very cynical assumption.

[MC P Pants]

One of my main concerns about this feature is how they will sell/package dlc post release. Can we expect to see co-op only maps (or co-op whatever) bundled with exclusive weapons or armor for Shepard? Im worried they will do that - as they can charge fans for features/items they dont want or that are irrelevant, in order to get the ones they do want. Thats probably going to be the deciding point for me when it comes to supporting/playing Bioware games in the future. If it turns into a money hungry mess like that - then i'll just wait and pick up Bioware titles from a used bin for 5 bucks from then on. I believe fans should be respected and not milked for money, i will have to wait and see.

[Kakita Tatsumaru]

Novate wrote...
I am just wondering what are they gonna do about DLC's , Will DLC's be an extension of the SP , or will it be the extension of the MP. If its the MP then I am very disappointed, because all the fears of the masses will be coming true where the funds and time are spent on MP and not the SP aspects of the Game.

DLC will be extention of the MP, as numerous people here prooved without the slightest doubt that the ME3 single player experience cannot be expanded even with more time and money...

[shep82]

Taciter wrote...

shep82 wrote...

So I'm a baboon because I disagree? How mature.

No you're a baboon because you decided that facepalm was a clever retort! Equally mature!

Touche.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Darkeus wrote...

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

You can quote the PR faq but come on. It was put out to deflect anger about the multiplayer.

They can't just lie their asses off and not care about backlash.

They obviously did not care about this backlash.

Obviously? Did I miss something?

You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect the way you have presented it thus far, but come on... If it turns out you are right, I will still not understand where you got the "obviously" from, but I will agree with you.

[Darkeus]

gamer_girl wrote...



Or perhaps you're thinking about it too deeply. None of those responses had any evidence, it had a flawed Michael Moore esque conspiracy with no sources. Does anyone actually have any proof of EA's spendings and what they intended it to be spent on? No, and I doubt anyone here does BW and EA's finances, so to make that point is really just a very wild, very cynical assumption.

Whatever you want to think...  Seriously, drink the Kool-Aid and I hope I am not right.

Just don't complain if it sucks and messes up the game.  Not one word....


If it works and does not screw the Single Player up, I will eat my words happily

Modifié par Darkeus, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:09 .

[IronSabbath88]

Seriously... this forum makes my head hurt sometimes..

[TheGreenAlloy]

didymos1120 wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...
 I'm saying something will be different if you used MP to get there: a cutscene, some allies, a piece of equipment or some other resources. From the way they've put this, that has to be the case.

No, it MIGHT be the case. You've simply decided that it's fact, despite not having, you know, evidence.

[shep82]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Novate wrote...
I am just wondering what are they gonna do about DLC's , Will DLC's be an extension of the SP , or will it be the extension of the MP. If its the MP then I am very disappointed, because all the fears of the masses will be coming true where the funds and time are spent on MP and not the SP aspects of the Game.

DLC will be extention of the MP, as numerous people here prooved without the slightest doubt that the ME3 single player experience cannot be expanded even with more time and money...

Um they have stated they have dlc plans and why would they focus soley on the MP? Bioware has never done that. The Dlc will likely be split.

[Taciter]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

It is not essential to the SP experience, just like playing as a Sentinel is not essential. You can win the game with and without boht of these.

I never said it was essential, I said it was content...

But seeing as it's content 'exclusive' to multiplayers, it's therefore content that single players will are denied.

Modifié par Taciter, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:10 .

[didymos1120]

Darkeus wrote...

Doesn't help the other side either.  They really don;t have concrete evidence by any means.

No really?  And here I was thinking that excluding a source of supporting evidence strengthened a case.

Modifié par didymos1120, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:11 .

[TheGreenAlloy]

IronSabbath88 wrote...

Seriously... this forum makes my head hurt sometimes..

I frequent The Flood. The people of this forum are gentlemen,

[Brownfinger]

Novate wrote...

Brownfinger wrote...

Also, why would the Developers lie? Is this something they're in the habit of doing at Bioware?

No.

The only thing more prevalent on the internet than porn is cynicism.

I didn't want to do this, but If you check back from before this announcement was made, Bioware actually stated officially that there is no Multiplayer Mode. This statement was used multiple times during the previous posts of Whether or not there is Multiplayer Mode by fans to discredit and to make all forum posters look like idiots.

An outright denial? Really.
Link it to me.

[X in 415]

there's no way in hell I am going through 122 pages, so please forgive me if this has been touched upon before. Is anyone else extremely skeptical because 1, its an EA product, which has meant poor servers/connection in the past, and 2, Its from Bioware, whom unless my memory is failing me, hasnt had much experience with online multiplayer or co-op games as of yet? Im against this co-op for reasons many here share, but that aside, it just smells like it will be a lagfest

[Digifi]

shep82 wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Novate wrote...
I am just wondering what are they gonna do about DLC's , Will DLC's be an extension of the SP , or will it be the extension of the MP. If its the MP then I am very disappointed, because all the fears of the masses will be coming true where the funds and time are spent on MP and not the SP aspects of the Game.

DLC will be extention of the MP, as numerous people here prooved without the slightest doubt that the ME3 single player experience cannot be expanded even with more time and money...

Um they have stated they have dlc plans and why would they focus soley on the MP? Bioware has never done that. The Dlc will likely be split.

I believe Kakita was being sarcastic.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Taciter wrote...

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

It is not essential to the SP experience, just like playing as a Sentinel is not essential. You can win the game with and without boht of these.

I never said it was essential, I said it was content...

But seeing as it's content 'exclusive' to multiplayers, it's therefore content that single players will are denied.

The frack are you (I, maybe) doing with the quotes?

[gamer_girl]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Doesn't help the other side either.  They really don;t have concrete evidence by any means.

No really?  And here I was thinking that excluding evidence strengthened a case.

XD That just made my day.

[Darkeus]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

You can quote the PR faq but come on. It was put out to deflect anger about the multiplayer.

They can't just lie their asses off and not care about backlash.

They obviously did not care about this backlash.

Obviously? Did I miss something?

You are entitled to your opinion, and I respect the way you have presented it thus far, but come on... If it turns out you are right, I will still not understand where you got the "obviously" from, but I will agree with you.

Multiplayer is in the game right?

Then no, they did not care what the fans think.  The reaction from arounf the wweb is not trending positive.  It has been quite negative.  So no, they did not care about the backlash this would cause with fans and it has not been good as a result.  They should have left it out.  It is not wanted or needed. 

And now it may affect the Single Player experience and BioWare knows that is what people care about.

[Darkeus]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Doesn't help the other side either.  They really don;t have concrete evidence by any means.

No really?  And here I was thinking that excluding a source of supporting evidence strengthened a case.

You might be wrong.  Come on...  Really...

With or without the faq, we know that Multiplayer affects the game one way or another.  Not to hard.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Taciter wrote...

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

It is not essential to the SP experience, just like playing as a Sentinel is not essential. You can win the game with and without boht of these.

I never said it was essential, I said it was content...

But seeing as it's content 'exclusive' to multiplayers, it's therefore content that single players will are denied.

If you so choose. It is part of the bargain, however, for the same price as ME2.

[Darkeus]

gamer_girl wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Doesn't help the other side either.  They really don;t have concrete evidence by any means.

No really?  And here I was thinking that excluding evidence strengthened a case.

XD That just made my day.

Of course it would.

[Novate]

shep82 wrote...

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Novate wrote...
I am just wondering what are they gonna do about DLC's , Will DLC's be an extension of the SP , or will it be the extension of the MP. If its the MP then I am very disappointed, because all the fears of the masses will be coming true where the funds and time are spent on MP and not the SP aspects of the Game.

DLC will be extention of the MP, as numerous people here prooved without the slightest doubt that the ME3 single player experience cannot be expanded even with more time and money...

Um they have stated they have dlc plans and why would they focus soley on the MP? Bioware has never done that. The Dlc will likely be split.

But you see, Bioware had stated officially that all efforts are being spend to make sure we get an Epic finish to Commander Shepard's story. And Now we got Multiplayer Co-op, and althought they said they already have DLC planned , I am just very worry that its all for the MP and only a small portion of the funds are being released for the SP. Where we can get a whole mission made for co-op and just a new gun and new skins for SP.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Darkeus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

Doesn't help the other side either.  They really don;t have concrete evidence by any means.

No really?  And here I was thinking that excluding a source of supporting evidence strengthened a case.

You might be wrong.  Come on...  Really...

With or without the faq, we know that Multiplayer affects the game one way or another.  Not to hard.

Yep. So far, we know that it helps boost readiness. If you want it to.