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[Darkeus]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...


You might be wrong.  Come on...  Really...

Yes, another obvious fact that didn't need pointing out.  But, just for giggles, what exactly is it that you think I might be wrong about?  Because I don't actually recall claiming anything about the effects of MP on SP other than that they don't preclude achieving the best ending (and yes: I do acknowledge the possibility that that could have been an outright lie. I just don't see any reason to rate that possibility particularly highly without, you know, EVIDENCE).   I DO recall stating that someone else had no evidence for their claims that there would be all sorts of missed SP content due to not using MP, and if it's that you think I might be wrong about, well, feel free to point out where said person actually provided anything other than bare assertion.

No one has a clue how this will really affect the Single player game other than some words written to placate.. I mean come on....  We will see how screwed up or not this MP crap makes the Single Player game.

[Il Divo]

didymos1120 wrote...

Yes, another obvious fact that didn't need pointing out.  But, just for giggles, what exactly is it that you think I might be wrong about?  Because I don't actually recall claiming anything about the effects of MP on SP other than that they don't preclude achieving the best ending (and yes: I do acknowledge the possibility that that could have been an outright lie. I just don't see any reason to rate that possibility particularly highly without, you know, EVIDENCE).   I DO recall stating that someone else had no evidence for their claims that there would be all sorts of missed SP content due to not using MP, and if it's that you think I might be wrong about, well, feel free to point out where said person actually provided anything other than bare assertion.

I gotta go with this approach. Positive evidence is positive evidence. If we start the "Bioware lies about everything" claims, then we get into plenty of illogical scenarios, such as Mass Effect 3 will not involve uniting the galaxy, despite Bioware assuring it was. Even if we want to assume the multi-player is terrible, there is no logic to support the multiplayer-->singleplayer comparisons, aside from "Bioware misdirected us before, so obviously they are lying now".

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:30 .

[Taciter]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Our pyramid will rival the Egyptian's.

lol

[C1pher]

Sweet. I'm always a huge fan of co-op multiplayer, so one of my favorite games adding it is therefore a welcome change.

Though I've worked myself into some curiousity: what are the odds that we'll get cross-platform co-op? The friends I'd like to play with would likely get Mass Effect 3 on different systems. Any combination is nice, but I'm going to hold out for a PC/PS3 link, like Valve recently used.

[gamer_girl]

[quote]Darkeus wrote...

[quote]gamer_girl wrote...

[quote]Darkeus wrote...

[quote]Curl of the Burl wrote...

lol @thinking Gamespot and IGN are good, at all.
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With that attitude, no site is worth anything.

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With your attitude, nothing BioWare says is worth anything.

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Nothing an EA controlled BioWare says.

Nice try though.....

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You have no way to prove that EA is a ventriloquist.
Even if they are, at the bare minimum, what was listed in the faq must be true as they can't lie about what features are in the game. Would BioWare ever say "Mass Effect 3 will not have Shepard at all and will have fluffy little kitty cats instead? No because that's ridiculous. They wouldn't say something that isn't true. I've said this many times yet you still seem certain that your wild assumptions are true.

[quote pyramid reduced]

Modifié par Stanley Woo, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:33 .

[Darkeus]

Taciter wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

felipejiraya wrote...

Holy ****, I've gone to sleep yesterday and Darkeus was whining.

So now I'm back from work and Darkeus is still whining.

Some people really don't know when to stop.

And, so what.  Not the only one not happy about this...

Please, whatever... 

lol.. Darkeus.. you've probably determined by now that you're preaching to the unconvertable.. let's just call it a day man!

Yeah, it is like beating on a dull wall.....  Oh well, blind faith and all I suppose.  Just let BioWare tell you what you want Pro-MP people.  I am out of this, we are all guessing and I am tired....

I really should be finishing my book parts for my company...  God, is it 9:30 Eastern???  Great....

[TheGreenAlloy]

Darkeus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...


You might be wrong.  Come on...  Really...

Yes, another obvious fact that didn't need pointing out.  But, just for giggles, what exactly is it that you think I might be wrong about?  Because I don't actually recall claiming anything about the effects of MP on SP other than that they don't preclude achieving the best ending (and yes: I do acknowledge the possibility that that could have been an outright lie. I just don't see any reason to rate that possibility particularly highly without, you know, EVIDENCE).   I DO recall stating that someone else had no evidence for their claims that there would be all sorts of missed SP content due to not using MP, and if it's that you think I might be wrong about, well, feel free to point out where said person actually provided anything other than bare assertion.

No one has a clue how this will really affect the Single player game other than some words written to placate.. I mean come on....  We will see how screwed up or not this MP crap makes the Single Player game.

That's the thing. We do have clues. You just don't believe them.

[Stanley Woo]

People, let's keep the quote pyramids down tot a manageable level, please. More than 4 deep and you're starting to get ridiculous. Quote only what you're directly responding to, and if you're having a conversation in quotes, it's time to take your discussion to private or to IM.

Keep the quotes down, please. It makes your posts difficult to read.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Darkeus wrote...

I really should be finishing my book parts for my company...  God, is it 9:30 Eastern???  Great....

I didn't like how you accused us of blind faith, there. You're the one with nothing to show.

Modifié par TheGreenAlloy, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:34 .

[felipejiraya]

C1pher wrote...

Sweet. I'm always a huge fan of co-op multiplayer, so one of my favorite games adding it is therefore a welcome change.

Though I've worked myself into some curiousity: what are the odds that we'll get cross-platform co-op? The friends I'd like to play with would likely get Mass Effect 3 on different systems. Any combination is nice, but I'm going to hold out for a PC/PS3 link, like Valve recently used.

Cross-platform co-op would be nice (I have the same problem as you) but I think it's a longshot it will happen.

[RenownedRyan]

JigPig wrote...

My prediction: It falls flat on it's face, like Dead Space 2's multiplayer.

Or BioShock 2's. Solid point JigPig.  The issue with games like Dead Space, Mass Effect, and Bioshock adding multiplayer is that these are story driven experiences.  Thus, attempting to add multiplayer sacrifices the game's strongest and most lauded component.  You took the words right out of my mouth with that comparison.

That said, I disagree with those who believe that this will detract from the singleplayer experience.  I assume the game was completed and this feature is the reason for the delay. 

Finally, I have one question.  Will this support local co-op, or is it only online?  Will there be split-screen so that I can play with my actual friends instead of (pre-teen) strangers?  Anyone who has devoted 10 minutes to playing Gears of War, Halo, or Call of Duty online has realized how irritating it is to deal with moronic basement-dwellers screaming into their mics.  Don't let them ruin the experience.

[Digifi]

Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

Digifi wrote...


I believe Kakita was being sarcastic.

How could I when my fears (and not my hopes) where cast away by such evidences that ME3 cannot be made more complete that it is already?
By such, it's absolutely normal they spent their spare time and money to make Multiplayer, cause that was the only way left to expand the ME3 experience.

Ok, you weren't being sarcastic, just really dramatic (the internetz obscure much).  My apologies.

EDIT: For the pyramid!!!!

Modifié par Digifi, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:35 .

[FFinfinity1]

I've never been a multiplayer buff and first i was skeptical about it, but i think Bioware really has their **** together on this one. Hell I think they've been working on the MP for a while since ME3 single player WAS finished Dec 2010 and they kept stressing they wanted to make it more accessible to the masses. I for one will enjoy co-op because Mass effect 1 nor Mass Effect 2 have ever really disappointed me in the fun department. Now i actually can have fun with my friends who get the game

to people who say this going to tank like bioshock or dead space, This is CO-OP not some half-assed versus mode or some call of duty free-for-all. If anything this is going to be like horde from gears of war where you need to have team work for common good. i.e. destroying the reapers :]

[didymos1120]

meaddict wrote...

Ditto. So, is there anyway to block users that one does not wish to read? Certain frequent posters in here are giving me a headache.

Not built-in no.  The forum software is pretty feature-weak, either due to lacking stuff like that entirely or because the admins are lazy and disabled them.  Probably could adapt a Greasmonkey script or somesuch to provide that functionality.

[gamer_girl]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

I really should be finishing my book parts for my company...  God, is it 9:30 Eastern???  Great....

I didn't like how you accused us of blind faith, there. You're the one with nothing to show.

QFT

[Curl of the Burl]

Here's a visual metaphor ( )--for those who want one--for what BioWare (the man) did to the hopes and dreams (the card) of people who didn't want multiplayer (the woman) to be in Mass Effect 3, in fears that it would detract from the games single player. It's quite fitting truth be told, song and all.

Modifié par Curl of the Burl, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:37 .

[Nightingale]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Our pyramid will rival the Egyptian's.

I'll help

As far as multiplayer goes, I'm still not happy about it but I may be willing to give it a chance. I just don't like the idea of it impacting the single-player experience. If I do try it, it'll be after I've completed the game at least once.

Edit: I apologize for making the pyramid longer. I posted that before I saw your post, Stanley Woo.

Modifié par DrTsoni, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:42 .

[TheGreenAlloy]

felipejiraya wrote...

C1pher wrote...

Sweet. I'm always a huge fan of co-op multiplayer, so one of my favorite games adding it is therefore a welcome change.

Though I've worked myself into some curiousity: what are the odds that we'll get cross-platform co-op? The friends I'd like to play with would likely get Mass Effect 3 on different systems. Any combination is nice, but I'm going to hold out for a PC/PS3 link, like Valve recently used.

Cross-platform co-op would be nice (I have the same problem as you) but I think it's a longshot it will happen.

i agree. My friends are spread out, althought most are on the XBOX and the PC.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Curl of the Burl wrote...

Here's a visual metaphor ( )--for those who want one--for what BioWare (the man) did to the hopes and dreams (the card) of people who didn't want multiplayer (the woman) to be in Mass Effect 3, in fear that it would detract from the games single player. It's quite fitting, song and all.

Are you going to contribute to the discussion or just post observations mixed with opinions?

[Novate]

[quote]Digifi wrote...

[quote]Kakita Tatsumaru wrote...

[quote]Digifi wrote...


I believe Kakita was being sarcastic.

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Ok, you weren't being sarcastic, just really dramatic (the internetz obscure much).  My apologies.

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but you see how can one not be overly dramatic, especially when Bioware officially stated that DLC was being developed prior to the revelation of the MP Co-op addition.
And now that its revealed, what were those DLC they were developing if SP was already at its prime and being polished. Are we going to be seeing more and more MP dlc's and will SP be done and over when the campaigns are over, because now they got something they can expand on. <---the MP

[Doug4130]

NEW multiplayer info! Strongly advise reading it! was posted in another thread but it will get more attention here


stickskills.com/2011/10/11/mass-effect-3-multiplayer-details-revealed/

Modifié par Doug4130, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:39 .

[didymos1120]

DrTsoni wrote...

I'll help

I wouldn't.  The mods are none too fond of quote pyramids and those who build them.

[Curl of the Burl]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Curl of the Burl wrote...

Here's a visual metaphor ( )--for those who want one--for what BioWare (the man) did to the hopes and dreams (the card) of people who didn't want multiplayer (the woman) to be in Mass Effect 3, in fear that it would detract from the games single player. It's quite fitting, song and all.

Are you going to contribute to the discussion or just post observations mixed with opinions?

Isn't that what this entire thread is composed of anyway? Observation and opinions; some blind "fanboyism", some level-headed, and some crazed doomsayers.

Modifié par Curl of the Burl, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:41 .

[Il Divo]

Relevant points to consider in the multiplayer impacting single player discussion:

The multiplayer experience boils down to a four player co-op survial style mode that lets you fight increasingly difficult waves of Cerberus foes.

The “Galaxy at War” mode gives you a reward system, character-progression suite, and a “stake in the larger battle that’s taking place in your single-player campaign.

How you perform in the multiplayer missions has a result on your success in the main storyline as Shepard, but only if you want it to.

Everything you do in the singleplayer campaign will earn you in-game currency called “War Assets”. War Assets allow you to purchase things such as allies, friendly fleets, or even a facility such as a radar station.

Successfully completing various side-missions, larger plot points, and destroying your enemies will net you the War Assets needed to purchase the upgrades.

The more you play and build up your multiplayer characters to surive increasingly tough odds, the more power and influence your single-player Shepard will wield by the time the endgame comes based on the amount of War Assets earned.”

If you’re one of those gamers that loves to complete every piece of a game, then you’re in luck. By doing enough in the singleplayer campaign, you will be able to earn enough War Assets, you won’t phave to participate in the “galactic war”.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Curl of the Burl wrote...

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Curl of the Burl wrote...

Here's a visual metaphor ( )--for those who want one--for what BioWare (the man) did to the hopes and dreams (the card) of people who didn't want multiplayer (the woman) to be in Mass Effect 3, in fear that it would detract from the games single player. It's quite fitting, song and all.

Are you going to contribute to the discussion or just post observations mixed with opinions?

Isn't that what this entire thread is composed of? Observations and opinions; some blind "fanboyism", some level-headed, and some crazed doomsayers.

Yes, but it's been disguized so well that valid points have risen on all sides.

Modifié par TheGreenAlloy, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:41 .