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[FLYING GRENADE11]

Well guys its Official, This forum is on the verge of a flame war.

[GayFemshep]

split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen split screen.

GOD DAMN IT.

[RocketManSR2]

These overreaction posts are hilarious! Keep 'em comin'!

Modifié par RocketManSR2, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:11 .

[Walker White]

Ancient Metal wrote...

I have been an avid fan of BioWare ever since the first Baldur's Gate. My girlfriend and I both cancelled our ME3 preorders today and I just officially cancelled TOR. I'm going to wait for reviews and a drop in the game's retail price. I never tried a TES game before, but I hear they are good rpgs so I'm going to preorder Skyrim now.

If you are a BioWare fan that likes story, prepare to be disappointed.  Those games are walking simulators with disjointed quests.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

These overreaction topics are hilarious! Keep 'em comin'!

Almost as bad as the threads on 4 to the chan.

Modifié par FLYING GRENADE11, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:12 .

[Killjoy Cutter]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Your childish insult-based post reveals the hollowness of your actual position.  You assume that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a brainless fanboy who hasn't read the details of the MP system for ME3. 

Guess what, chief.  We have read the details, and we still don't want this crap.   And we've detailed many reasons why.  None of the details that have been revealed address those reasons. 

If MP can have any affect on SP, even if it's just "war points", then it's too connected.  ANY connection at all means that MP and SP are too connected. 

MP content uses DVD space that could be used for additional SP content. 

MP development uses resources that could be used for additional SP development.

MP makes mandatory Origin installation more likely.

MP makes anti-modding measures more likely. 

Etc. 

If I wanted to insult you, I would have. You have read, but do not comprehend. You can play ME3 just as you would had MP never been announced if you wish and simply rely on your choices to see you through.

Maybe you're sadly just... whatever enough to think that telling someone that their "fanboy brain" can't comprehend something isn't an insult.

As for whether we've read it, hmmm... let me see if I have this straight.  There are those important points you'll need to do stuff in the SP campaign/story, called War Assets or whatever, right?  And you can also "earn" them in MP, and use those MP-"earned" War Assets in our SP campaign, right?    That's what we've been told so far, isn't it? 

So unless the details are written in a language that happens to use English words, structure, and syntax, but means something entirely different... THEN WE BLOODY WELL KNOW the way in which MP and SP are linked, and that linkage is too damn much. 

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 12 octobre 2011 - 01:55 .

[Jaldaric]

Heh. I remember when staff and people here were blaming 4chan for dismal metacritic ratings, and poor ratings on other sites for DA2

Modifié par Jaldaric, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:13 .

[TheSeventhJedi]

IsaacShep wrote...

TheSeventhJedi wrote...


They SAY it doesn't - whether it ACTUALLY does has yet to be seen.  They also said planet scanning was a fun little mini-game.

If you don't see a difference between completly subjective impressions on the level of fun some system provides and a simple and purely facts-based statement that MP is not necessary to achieve anything in SP and that unless you want it, it won't affect the SP, then I don't even knopw what to say.

I wasn't comparing the quotes, but rather their track record for accurate statements.

Before ME1 came out, they promised us a galaxy so big we could literally get lost.  Conversation interrupts.  (Which, I'll give you, they put into the game after.)  Periodic DLC that would bridge the gap between installments.  (Which they finally got around to at the very end of ME2 DLC, and it was pretty lackluster.)  I used to have a list of them, and it was extensive.  Of course they're going to SAY what we want to hear - once we buy the game, it doesn't matter if they were lying.  I was pretty impressed by all the hype for DA2 - I thought it would be an improvement over the first one, which I loved.  The franchise is dead to me now.  They held on to ME a little longer, and I absolutely still plan to play it, but they've absolutely lost my day one purchase, likely my full-price purchase.

The problem is, this can only go one of two ways:
#1  It attracts more customers than it alienates.  EA feels like they're winning, and forces BioWare to churn out the same crap as the rest of the market.
#2  It alienates customers without attracting more.  EA feels like BioWare is losing its touch, and suggests they make pure shooters instead.  Those are what sell.

[MrSeductify]

Gotta admit, I was very skeptical when I read about it yesterday, but.... My very own Asari Commando? Who I can customize to my liking? KICKASS

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Icinix wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Belisarius09 wrote...

hey, they closed the other thread with this questions but it's a question i'd still like answered. will we be able to do the co-op missions offline? like split screen? i remember when all the multi-player games were split screen and you could play them locally, now its only ever on live, meaning you have to have 2 consoles, two xbox live memberships, and two copies of the game, such a hassle.

also, if the co-op levels are only online, will it affect your me3 play through, or your friends play through? which one of us will be making any possible important decisions that could affect the main story?

the info we've been given is very vague, the missions are optional, and it is still possible to get a positive ending w/o them but how much do we miss out on for doing them/not doing them?

don't get me wrong, i'm warming to the idea of the coop levels and think they will be very fun, but you just dropped this huge new update on us and gave us very little info on how it will work. you're spoon feeding us something big but you haven't told us what it is we're putting in our mouths yet.

needless to say i look forwards to the announcement on Wednesday and I hope some of the questions can be answered.

http://stickskills.c...tails-revealed/

That should answer some questions but as for the offline idk. I REALLY hope we can play offline or at least with bots though. The wait for tommorw is unbearable lol

Yes. Yes Please. Very much please.

Allow offline bot matches for people who don't have access to steady internet etc. That way single players who wouldn't use it might be more tempted to give it a whirl and they can get their readiness all uppidy and going.

Agreed, and to be honest I find co-op features like this one to be more fun when playing single player anyways. lol call me weird but I personally dislike the idea of having someone (even if they are a friend) screwing around and rushing through the thing like its CoD, I prefer to just play at my own pace.(especially since Mass Effect is a Single Player game to begin with) 

If they can do this for Co-Op, I will be more than pleased and send them an enourmous Awesome Smiley.



:} 

[RocketManSR2]

Walker White wrote...

If you are a BioWare fan that likes story, prepare to be disappointed.  Those games are walking simulators with disjointed quests.

Maybe they enjoy both? Just thinking out loud.

[XandurSE]

iakus wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Your childish insult-based post reveals the hollowness of your actual position.  You assume that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a brainless fanboy who hasn't read the details of the MP system for ME3. 

Guess what, chief.  We have read the details, and we still don't want this crap.   And we've detailed many reasons why.  None of the details that have been revealed address those reasons. 

If MP can have any affect on SP, even if it's just "war points", then it's too connected.  ANY connection at all means that MP and SP are too connected. 

MP content uses DVD space that could be used for additional SP content. 

MP development uses resources that could be used for additional SP development.

MP makes mandatory Origin installation more likely.

MP makes anti-modding measures more likely. 

Etc. 

Iakus Friendship +10

On the other hand, your position implies you know better than the developpers, including how the SP was and should have been designed, how the ressources were and should have been allocated, etc.

That post doesn't exactly strenghten your position. Unless of course you're intimately aware of the ME development process. In the end, they are the artists and they put the work in: you don't get to say how they do it or what goes in. Until the game comes out and you make a tally after watching the credits of approximately how many staff were "wasted" on the MP component and somehow divine what was left on the cutting room floor instead, your last arguments are hollow as well.

[FLYING GRENADE11]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Icinix wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

Belisarius09 wrote...

hey, they closed the other thread with this questions but it's a question i'd still like answered. will we be able to do the co-op missions offline? like split screen? i remember when all the multi-player games were split screen and you could play them locally, now its only ever on live, meaning you have to have 2 consoles, two xbox live memberships, and two copies of the game, such a hassle.

also, if the co-op levels are only online, will it affect your me3 play through, or your friends play through? which one of us will be making any possible important decisions that could affect the main story?

the info we've been given is very vague, the missions are optional, and it is still possible to get a positive ending w/o them but how much do we miss out on for doing them/not doing them?

don't get me wrong, i'm warming to the idea of the coop levels and think they will be very fun, but you just dropped this huge new update on us and gave us very little info on how it will work. you're spoon feeding us something big but you haven't told us what it is we're putting in our mouths yet.

needless to say i look forwards to the announcement on Wednesday and I hope some of the questions can be answered.

http://stickskills.c...tails-revealed/

That should answer some questions but as for the offline idk. I REALLY hope we can play offline or at least with bots though. The wait for tommorw is unbearable lol

Yes. Yes Please. Very much please.

Allow offline bot matches for people who don't have access to steady internet etc. That way single players who wouldn't use it might be more tempted to give it a whirl and they can get their readiness all uppidy and going.

Agreed, and to be honest I find co-op features like this one to be more fun when playing single player anyways. lol call me weird but I personally dislike the idea of having someone (even if they are a friend) screwing around and rushing through the thing like its CoD, I prefer to just play at my own pace.(especially since Mass Effect is a Single Player game to begin with) 

If they can do this for Co-Op, I will be more than pleased and send them an enourmous Awesome Smiley.



:} 

Awseome Smiley comin in, patchin it through.

[The Interloper]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

As for whether we've read it, hmmm... let me see if I have this straight.  There are those important points you'll need to do stuff in the SP campaign/story, called War Assets or whatever, right?  And you can also "earn" them in MP, and use those MP-"earned" War Assets in our SP campaign, right?    That's what we've been told so far, isn't it? 

So unless the details are written in a language that happens to use English words, structure, and syntax, but means something entirely different... THEN WE BLOODY WELL KNOW the way in which MP and SP are linked, and that linkage is too damn much. 

Never mind the fact that you can get all the war points or whatever you can get in SP alone, making MP completely friggen optional and pretending it doesn't exist is an entirely viable course of action.

[Computer_God91]

Oh my god everyone in Mass Effect 3 we'll be able to play with our friends! What a tragedy! I'll have the opportunity to have a good time with my friends in a game series I enjoy. What a shame, what a shame.

And I was looking forward to hiding in my dark ass room and playing all by myself.

Modifié par Computer_God91, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:16 .

[FLYING GRENADE11]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Oh my god everyone in Mass Effect 3 we'll be able to play with our friends! What a tragedy! I'll have the opportunity to have a good time with my friends in a game series I enjoy. What a shame, what a shame.

And I was looking forward to hiding in my dark ass room and playing all by myself.

Well they might not have friends.

[Luan]

Chicken and Mushroom Pie.

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

I've gotta give you credit,  that was an interesting way to try and avoid the topic,  but it'd be better if you dealt with the topic.

-EA wants Online Pass to force Used purchasers to pay them.
-Optional content doesn't force them to pay EA.
-The content cannot be optional,  regardless of what Bioware claims.

There's no valid reason for shoehorning multiplayer into a narrative driven SP experience,  it adds 0 value to the goal of the game,  which is to provide the best narrative driven experience possible.  Narratives aren't about shooting endless waves of whack-a-mole.  Adding endless waves of whack-a-mole doesn't improve narratives.

So the only option is that it's EA's used game DRM.  Which means the only option is that it's invasive.

So you're asserting that EA plans on forcing players to purchase Online Pass by requiring that Mass Effect 3's single-player campaign depend on multiplayer content? I recommend that you revamp your second premise. Optional content may not force users to pay EA; desired content, such as multiplayer, will. Remove that and the logic train collapses. Of all the interesting ways of recouping used game sales, including Shale as dlc, I'm very curious as to where you're getting this from, beyond your clear hatred of EA.

I feel I should also point out that the advantages of multiplayer do not need to make themselves known in a narrative driven single-player experience.

Modifié par Il Divo, 12 octobre 2011 - 04:23 .

[XandurSE]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Oh my god everyone in Mass Effect 3 we'll be able to play with our friends! What a tragedy! I'll have the opportunity to have a good time with my friends in a game series I enjoy. What a shame, what a shame.

And I was looking forward to hiding in my dark ass room and playing all by myself.

THAAANK YOU!

Saving the universe: epic.
Saving the universe with your buddies epic and awesome.

[didymos1120]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

So unless the details are written in a language that happens to use English words, structure, and syntax, but means something entirely different... THEN WE BLOODY WELL KNOW the way in which MP and SP are linked, and that linkage is too damn much. 

Why even bother getting into the details?  You've already said you think any connection, no matter what, is "too damn much", so the details are rather irrelevant, aren't they?

[NOD-INFORMER37]

Computer_God91 wrote...

Oh my god everyone in Mass Effect 3 we'll be able to play with our friends! What a tragedy! I'll have the opportunity to have a good time with my friends in a game series I enjoy. What a shame, what a shame.

And I was looking forward to hiding in my dark ass room and playing all by myself.

>-> you obviously missed the point of why ppl are upset.

Mass Effect is a single player experience, not one to invite all your friends over and "own" each other for the top leaderboards. So its understandable why some would get mad at the idea of co-op, its not what ppl play this game for and even worse is than EA forced it on Bioware. . :S 

A darker room is actually quite awesome playing Mass Effect......especially if theres a lava lamp. :] 

[didymos1120]

FLYING GRENADE11 wrote...

 This forum is on the verge of a flame war.

That's not particularly unusual.

[RocketManSR2]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Maybe you're sadly just... whatever enough to think that telling someone that their "fanboy brain" can't comprehend something is an insult.

As for whether we've read it, hmmm... let me see if I have this straight.  There are those important points you'll need to do stuff in the SP campaign/story, called War Assets or whatever, right?  And you can also "earn" them in MP, and use those MP-"earned" War Assets in our SP campaign, right?    That's what we've been told so far, isn't it? 

So unless the details are written in a language that happens to use English words, structure, and syntax, but means something entirely different... THEN WE BLOODY WELL KNOW the way in which MP and SP are linked, and that linkage is too damn much. 

Too damn bad. It's BioWare's game, not yours and not mine. ME3 is near completion and nothing major will be changed from this point forward. Deal with it or move on. Nobody is going to make you play the MP portion of the game ffs. I do apologize for the "fanboy brain" crack, but these complaint posts are becoming absurd. It's in the game, try it, you might like it. I understand if you don't like playing MP against humans, but you won't be. You'll be taking on AI enemies with a squad of human players. Imagine playing ME2's SP with a team that wasn't stupid. I would be willing to tackle Insanity with a group like that.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

lol it'd be awesome if we can play as husks in co-op.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

RocketManSR2 wrote...

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Maybe you're sadly just... whatever enough to think that telling someone that their "fanboy brain" can't comprehend something is an insult.

As for whether we've read it, hmmm... let me see if I have this straight.  There are those important points you'll need to do stuff in the SP campaign/story, called War Assets or whatever, right?  And you can also "earn" them in MP, and use those MP-"earned" War Assets in our SP campaign, right?    That's what we've been told so far, isn't it? 

So unless the details are written in a language that happens to use English words, structure, and syntax, but means something entirely different... THEN WE BLOODY WELL KNOW the way in which MP and SP are linked, and that linkage is too damn much. 

Too damn bad. It's BioWare's game, not yours and not mine. ME3 is near completion and nothing major will be changed from this point forward. Deal with it or move on. Nobody is going to make you play the MP portion of the game ffs. I do apologize for the "fanboy brain" crack, but these complaint posts are becoming absurd. It's in the game, try it, you might like it. I understand if you don't like playing MP against humans, but you won't be. You'll be taking on AI enemies with a squad of human players. Imagine playing ME2's SP with a team that wasn't stupid. I would be willing to tackle Insanity with a group like that.

You peeps need to chill.