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[1136342t54_]

Dionkey wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

PDesign wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
Do characters level up in co-op multiplayer? What is the progression system?

• Character progression, weapon upgrading and leveling up is present in co-op. We’ll release more information on this topic in the months leading up to launch.

FFS, typical EA game.

Well, the leveling thing is actually typical of, you know, an ME game too.

Smells like Call of Duty to me.

Actually it smells like aspects of RPGs leveling system. Many modern multiplayer games have aspects akin to that. It isn't something new.

[thatguy212]

Okay so heres how i think it stands
Confirmed playable races: Asari, Turians, Krogans
Probable playable races: Human, Drells, Quarians, Salarians, Maybe Batarian
Less likely to be playable races: Geth, Hanar, Volus, Vorcha, etc

[OdanUrr]

1136342t54 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Yer... like, it'll make you cry when the ending sucks because you didn't play co-op.

Why do people post without reading the FAQ?

It's far more interesting that way, and funny as hell too.

[onelifecrisis]

1136342t54 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Yer... like, it'll make you cry when the ending sucks because you didn't play co-op.

Why do people post without reading the FAQ?

I could ask you the same question.

The methods by which a player can succeed without co-op have yet to be defined, but if past games are any indication then it's going to mean either exploring 100 copy-pasted warehouses or scanning 100 planets for minerals.

GaW is going to imbalance the game, no two ways about it. Either co-op will make the game too easy or SP will be too laborious.

Modifié par onelifecrisis, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:27 .

[RyuGuitarFreak]

sedrikhcain wrote...

"Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

I have now moved from concerned, to worried, to panic mode.

Christ's sake...it's OPTIONAL.

[1136342t54_]

Darkeus wrote...
That multiplayer is completely different from that and probably one of the most unused features in those games...

Again, I keep to my opinon.  And most of those was before EA got involved.  Again, the faq was put out there because people were outraged.  They put some candy for people in the post everybody goes kool-aid drinking. 

Nah, I will wait and see with a view towards negaative.  I have no faith that this will do nothing except greatly take away from a great series.

The problem I have with your posts Is that you constantly say its your opinion but then again you state your opinions as if it is established facts.

[Darkeus]

gamer_girl wrote...

Ok seriously, Darkeus if you hate BioWare so much now just because they made an optional festure that you don't like, why are you still posting here? If you aren't going to buy the bloody game, then why not find something better to do with your time? I'm certainly sick of your negativity, but I can't speak for everyone else.

And???

I am not so sure it is as optional as they say and I am concerned because I am a fan of BioWare and I am seeing a bad thing here.  As is my right.

So who cares what you are sick of??

[Pani Mauser]

While I don't like the idea of multiplayer for ME3 in general, and I think this should be a stand-alone project, the idea of creating your own alien sounds neat, and Galaxy at War system sounds quite interesting, so I might give it a try.

Though I have some questions which I hope could be answered by Bioware people as the answers to them will be crucial to my decision.

1) Most important. Will I be able to assign bots to be my companions instead of real people?

That is kind of critical, as it will be pretty hard to organize a co-op party for me. That's 4 people we are talking about, not just one, and everyone has their own schedules of work, studying, sleeptime, etc, and playing with strangers is not an option for me at all.

I don't even like playing with my own friends. Not because I hate them, but what if I want to play and I have only two hours of free time today and he or she wants to watch movie at the same time? Maybe he or she wants to play later, but I just can't because I have to work? That's a sad situation really, and bots would be a perfect remedy.

2) Can you create female turian, drell or krogan, or players who prefer to play as girls will be limited to humans, quarians and asari?

If it is the latter, it's pretty sad. Forcing someone to play as male just because they like turians or krogan is unfare.

3) Will co-op mode be installed together with the main game? I mean, harrdrive space is not unlimited, so if I chose not to play it, will I still waste my disk space?

Though I still wish you concentrated on deepening single-player experience instead. There ALWAYS are things to add and to improve, like, you know more permanent companions .

[Augustei]

Damn that sounds terrible

[100k]

Zakatak757 wrote...

RocketManSR2 wrote...

100k wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

In ME1, Bioware Edmonton worked on SP.
In ME2, Bioware Edmonton worked on SP.
In ME3, Bioware Edmonton is working on SP.
Bioware Montreal is a new element, and they will work on the co-op side of it.

Same amount of effort is going into ME3 as before, except... more.

I don't do this often...

But I was wrong. This MP sounds excellent now. An entire team devoted to making a MP game in addition to a SP game? Hell yeah.

I agree. It looks like I may end up eating my words.

This has never happened on the internet before. Today should be remembered by our ancestors.
Mark this on the calender, gentlemen.

Dev on Twitter said he was AT 30+ hours in his playthrough. I know he is probably being overly generous with 30+, but considering he said "at", that is pretty damn good.

The day we were wrong. 

Holy god. 

[DarkDragon777]

Dionkey wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

PDesign wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...
Do characters level up in co-op multiplayer? What is the progression system?

• Character progression, weapon upgrading and leveling up is present in co-op. We’ll release more information on this topic in the months leading up to launch.

FFS, typical EA game.

Well, the leveling thing is actually typical of, you know, an ME game too.

Smells like Call of Duty to me.

[*]It is unfortunately. This what Mass Effect has been reduced to.

[Silver]

Since i'm unwilling to read the entire thread: Will Mass Effect 3 as a result of all this revolting Co-Op Mumbo-Jumbo require Origin to be installed ? If so, EA should revise it's EULA and the way Origin works, i'm not going to open up my entire machine to it.
There needs to be a certain level of privacy-protection that I expect from software, such as that it does not transmit a list of the contents of my harddrives.

[Darkeus]

1136342t54 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...
That multiplayer is completely different from that and probably one of the most unused features in those games...

Again, I keep to my opinon.  And most of those was before EA got involved.  Again, the faq was put out there because people were outraged.  They put some candy for people in the post everybody goes kool-aid drinking. 

Nah, I will wait and see with a view towards negaative.  I have no faith that this will do nothing except greatly take away from a great series.

The problem I have with your posts Is that you constantly say its your opinion but then again you state your opinions as if it is established facts.

It doesn't take much to read between the lines.  This is not good for the series....

[shepskisaac]

thatguy212 wrote...

Okay so heres how i think it stands
Confirmed playable races: Asari, Turians, Krogans
Probable playable races: Human, Drells, Quarians, Salarians, Maybe Batarian
Less likely to be playable races: Geth, Hanar, Volus, Vorcha, etc

If there's no Hanar, pre-order cancelled. Hear that BioWare?! *rage*

[didymos1120]

Dionkey wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

1) This will mean fewer resources are used on the singleplayer campaign. Yes, I know that the Montreal studio is making the component, but those people could have been used to improve the singleplayer experience, never mind the fact that some of the people working there were from the original team.

Question: is "could have been" the same thing as "would have been"?

How does it matter? If EA wouldn't have impregnated this series with their greed, I'm sure those people would have gone to good use creating more missions, textures, sound files, and whatever else could have made you smile while playing.

The point being, you don't know how those resources would have been allocated if MP were out of the picture.  It's entirely possible they'd have been used for something other than ME3.  Maybe even a non-Bioware project.

[Dionkey]

Dr. Nexas wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

1) This will mean fewer resources are used on the singleplayer campaign. Yes, I know that the Montreal studio is making the component, but those people could have been used to improve the singleplayer experience, never mind the fact that some of the people working there were from the original team.

Question: is "could have been" the same thing as "would have been"?

How does it matter? If EA wouldn't have impregnated this series with their greed, I'm sure those people would have gone to good use creating more missions, textures, sound files, and whatever else could have made you smile while playing.

Or they simply wouldn't have had the money to do those things. You're working under the assumption EA took resources from single-player to make the multiplayer. Its far more likely the resources allocated towards multiplayer wouldn't exist without said multiplayer.

Hence why I said "If EA wouldn't have impregnated this series with their greed". Those same resources could have been taken out and invested in ME3.

[charmingcharlie]

I wasn't that impressed with the MP announcement and reading how MP has been shoe horned into ME 3 I am still unimpressed.  

I haven't yet cancelled my pre-order because at the end of the day I can blissfully ignore some crappy add on co-op levels that have been shoved into the game.  I am however currently waiting to read the FAQ that Jesse is putting together regarding the implementation of EA's god awful Origin system.  If Origin is required for me to install or play the single player campaign then I will be saving myself £70.

[Whatever42]

Knew it.

Bet it plays just like SWTOR, with the dice rolling dialogue system. I will never play it, but it should be probably a great CRPG roleplaying experience. No more player and henchmen model.

And it kind of makes sense. I mean, pretty much your whole squad can be dead from ME2 so the role of the characters in the story has to be optional anyway. They'll still have story, of course, but it won't be central to the storyline, except for the VS and Liara.

[1136342t54_]

onelifecrisis wrote...

1136342t54 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Yer... like, it'll make you cry when the ending sucks because you didn't play co-op.

Why do people post without reading the FAQ?

I could ask you the same question.

The methods by which a player can succeed without co-op have yet to be defined, but if past games are any indication then it's going to mean either exploring 100 copy-pasted warehouses or scanning 100 planets for minerals.

GaW is going to imbalance the game, no two ways about it.

Now I see you haven't even played attention to ME3 info. In ME2 many N7 missions on uncharted worlds could be avoided to complete the game you just scanned crap. In ME3 there is no scanning nor a lot of UNC or N7 missions.
 The decisions in the past game and actions in ME3 heavily affect the game. Playing the MP isn't necessary and the FAQ never stated how much it affects the game.

Read the FAQ and brush up on ME3 knowledge. Then come back to the thread.

[didymos1120]

DarkDragon777 wrote...


We've gotten to the point where our ability to win is measured by a "readiness level" and you could completely screw up in the past 2 games and make up for it by playing some STUPID multiplayer mode.

Oh, please.  We were never not going to able to win, MP or no. 

[Dionkey]

1136342t54 wrote...
 Actually it smells like aspects of RPGs leveling system. Many modern multiplayer games have aspects akin to that. It isn't something new.
[*]

But Call of Duty was the FPS that started this trend.

[Blacklash93]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

........*sigh*


They've reduced the Reapers to something that can be beat by winning in a multiplayer mode. I can't believe this. They would waste two games hyping the Reapers' return just so they would be able to be beat with no effort!

I doubt the Reapers will be beaten simply by out-gunning them. It should be a big part of it, but I expect more than a 2-dimensional war story of "Gather Allies and Kick Ass!). It needs some twists and turns. Dragon Age at least had the Dark Ritual and Ultimate Sacrifice.

[Fugiz]

DarkDragon777 wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I'm no longer excited about mass effect 3 and canceled both my ME (collector's edition) and my SWTOR preorders, as the only way I can vote is with my wallet and I'd rather give my money to someone else.

I don't balme you. This is such a disgrace.

So... you are disappointed that in addition to a full uncompromised SP campaign you are getting a relevant and meaningful MP mode which is entirely up to you to play it or not. Riiiight...can totally see the logic in that.

[AtreiyaN7]

Darkeus wrote...

That is where your opinion and mine differ.  I think Multiplayer ruins games and has a history of doing so.

Multiplayer traditionally does not look good for traditionally single player games.

You can believe what you want, just don't try to foist your opinion on me and tell me what to think or how I should feel. And while we're at it, don't try to frame your opinions and feelings about multiplayer as some sort of incontrovertible fact or proof that the game's single-player experience will be deficient. I certainly don't claim that every game benefits from multiplayer or that it's always done well - just that it can add to the experience when it is done well.

Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:28 .

[Almostfaceman]

RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

"Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

I have now moved from concerned, to worried, to panic mode.

Christ's sake...it's OPTIONAL.

Eh, if they can't be bothered to read the FAQ don't be bothered to respond.