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Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War and 4 player co-op multiplayer announced


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sedrikhcain

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I don't WANT multiplayer. I don't WANT my experience in multiplayer linked to single player in any way. I never even wanted that stuff in the game to begin with. It's bad enough it's in the game at all, now we find out that multiplayer will directly affect your single player experience. Yes, I get that they're telling us you'll be able to achieve the same ends in other ways but the content won't be the same and now if I want to experience as much as possible in the single player modes, I am forced to deal with multiplayer. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

This is TERRIBLE! I've been starving for this game for months and now this deeply troubling news. It's slipping away. It's all slipping away. Mass Effect addict that I am, I will buy this game, and I will play it. But that's it. I'm done. And I mean it. I love the Star Wars universe, and KOTOR, too, but they took that the MMO path and as a result I'm not buying it.

This is very, VERY disappointing news.

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All right that sounds awesome. They're even keeping the main characters out of it.

For those who don't like it, you don't have to play it, it's not hurting you in any way, you can play ME3 like it doesn't exist and not get penalized. It's not even being made by the main Mass Effect team so it's not hurting your single player experience. There is litterally no reason to be upset by this.

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I don't know that I necessarily wanted multiplayer in ME3, but if it's going to be there, what's been described is pretty much exactly what I'd prefer it to be.
I'm looking forward to this.

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BeeCranston wrote...

Is there split-screen for Xbox 360?


Hopefully...

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1136342t54 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

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 Actually it smells like aspects of RPGs leveling system. Many modern multiplayer games have aspects akin to that. It isn't something new.
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But Call of Duty was the FPS that started this trend.

So? CoD has always been a good FPS. It may be a bit repetative playing the same game with some improvements but all in all it is a solid shooter and the campaign is good enough to keep you interested until the end. I'm not saying ME3 MP should be like it but what COD did wasn't necessarily anything bad.

>CoD has always been a good FPS
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Call of Duty hasn't been good since 4, which is technically when Activision starting milking it. Do you see the similarites between Infinity Ward and Bioware? Activision and EA?

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hmm, as much as i love the idea of multiplayer me3 (thought it would have been great in me2) the wording of the outcomes is somewhat perplexing.

to elaborate, completing these missions will allow for another path to attaining the optimal ending... what is meant by optimal? does this mean my renegade shephard, whom has worked hard to systematically ruin anything he could get his grubby hands into, will have to steer clear of these missions to achieve the bleakest possible outcome?

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didymos1120 wrote...

Dionkey wrote...

Hence why I said "If EA wouldn't have impregnated this series with their greed". Those same resources could have been taken out and invested in ME3.


So. What.  That doesn't mean they WOULD HAVE been.  How hard is this to grasp?


You need to post the meaning of the word Would.

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Darkeus wrote...

I am not so sure it is as optional as they say and I am concerned because I am a fan of BioWare and I am seeing a bad thing here.  As is my right.


Actually, it isn't your right. This is a private website owned by a private organization and they can ban you for any reason whatsoever, up to and including whether or not they like your face.

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jeweledleah wrote...

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jeweledleah wrote...

I'm no longer excited about mass effect 3 and canceled both my ME (collector's edition) and my SWTOR preorders, as the only way I can vote is with my wallet and I'd rather give my money to someone else.



I don't balme you. This is such a disgrace.


So... you are disappointed that in addition to a full uncompromised SP campaign you are getting a relevant and meaningful MP mode which is entirely up to you to play it or not. Riiiight...can totally see the logic in that.:pinched:


is it uncompromiced really.  with resources devoted to developing and entirely DIFFERENT campaign that CAN nulify some bad decisions, that is if you play multiplayer of course and thus rendering someof the choices nuland void.  not to mention - resources.  they are not unlimited. and this sounds like a major understaking.

meh, I'mdone raging.  I have stated my opinion, bioware, if they read it(and mynotes onmy canceled order)  will know exactly what made me give up on them.  I'm done.


No,  it isn't uncomprimised.  EA doesn't spend extra money on series that only sell around 2 million units,  and they certainly don't give extra money when they mandated every game has multiplayer so they can push Used Game DRM (Online Pass). 

The money came out of what would otherwise have been the single player campaign.  As is already obvious since they hooked the concept so deeply into the game in order to *really* force used game purchasers to cough up the money for the Online Pass.

Call it what it is,  a massive intrusion into a single player game for the sole purpose of forcing used game purchasers to give EA money.  It couldn't have been more intrusive if it was forced commercials in between quests.

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AdmiralCheez wrote...

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1. What is the point of wasting resources to implement a feature a very small number of people will actually use?

Did you READ that OP?

If that stuff is implimented well, I am going to play the sh*t out of it.


Ditto, this sounds like it really just makes replays more fun.

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AlphaJarmel wrote...

The biggest problem I have with this is that horrible sounding Galactic Readiness level crap.  So essentially all our choices boil down to a bar and how far filled up it is?

Yeah, that sounds pretty damn bad.

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 That sounds pretty freaking awesome.
Now for the most important question of all, can I be an elcor with cannons on his back?:P

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ratzerman wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

The biggest problem I have with this is that horrible sounding Galactic Readiness level crap.  So essentially all our choices boil down to a bar and how far filled up it is?

Yeah, that sounds pretty damn bad.


And that so-called bar can get filled up more or less based on decisions in the first two games too, chances are.

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Dionkey wrote...

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Call of Duty hasn't been good since 4, which is technically when Activision starting milking it. Do you see the similarites between Infinity Ward and Bioware? Activision and EA?

Never said I actually really liked it since I'm not getting the next one. What it does is good and it doesn't have enough flaws the make it necessarily suck in SP. when it comes to MP depending on the specific COD game it can have a **** load of glitches or not many at all.

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So. What.  That doesn't mean they WOULD HAVE been.  How hard is this to grasp?

Holy mother of god....
OKAY, LISTEN TO ME: I am saying if Bioware did not sell out to EA (or if they did sell out to EA and they were actually a sensible publisher), it WOULD have been invested in better features. Instead, Bioware chose a big publisher with open arms and thus completely sent their company down the drain. Understand me?

Modifié par Dionkey, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:39 .


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Entire thread is babies.
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"it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."

Had to do this.

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Darkeus wrote...

JerkyJohnny14 wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

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Ok seriously, Darkeus if you hate BioWare so much now just because they made an optional festure that you don't like, why are you still posting here? If you aren't going to buy the bloody game, then why not find something better to do with your time? I'm certainly sick of your negativity, but I can't speak for everyone else.


And???

I am not so sure it is as optional as they say and I am concerned because I am a fan of BioWare and I am seeing a bad thing here.  As is my right.

So who cares what you are sick of??


Whad? Has the defintion of optional changed in the past ten minutes. Why wasn't I informed about this?


Didn't say it changed.  Just saying that I have a feeling it will be needed to get the best playthroug, no matter what the faq says.  The OP is a rushed out post to quell anger.  I need to see WAY more to be sure this is not ruining a great game.


Of course more information would be nice. But there is no possible way that this can essentially ruin the campaign that they have spent the past two years working on. Even if the co-op consisted of throwing rocks at brick walls, I believe the core campaign would compensate and it would prove to be mediocre at the least.

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ratzerman wrote...

AlphaJarmel wrote...

The biggest problem I have with this is that horrible sounding Galactic Readiness level crap.  So essentially all our choices boil down to a bar and how far filled up it is?

Yeah, that sounds pretty damn bad.


How should they have done it?

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100k wrote...

Zakatak757 wrote...

In ME1, Bioware Edmonton worked on SP.
In ME2, Bioware Edmonton worked on SP.
In ME3, Bioware Edmonton is working on SP.
Bioware Montreal is a new element, and they will work on the co-op side of it.

Same amount of effort is going into ME3 as before, except... more.


I don't do this often...

But I was wrong. This MP sounds excellent now. An entire team devoted to making a MP game in addition to a SP game? Hell yeah.


Contrary to my earlier opinion, this sounds halfway decent. If given the choice, I'd still prefer these resources go to a single player campaign. But as it stands, my interest is piqued.

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RyuGuitarFreak wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

"Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign"


NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

I have now moved from concerned, to worried, to panic mode.

Christ's sake...it's OPTIONAL.


Doesn't matter. It means if I want to explore every aspect of the single-player campaign, then I must engage in multiplayer, otherwise I miss out. EPIC FAIL TO END EPIC FAILS!

And Christ has nothing to do with this.

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Dionkey wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
So. What.  That doesn't mean they WOULD HAVE been.  How hard is this to grasp?

Holy mother of god....
OKAY, LISTEN TO ME: I am saying if Bioware did not sell out to EA or if they did sell out to EA and they were actually a sensible publisher, it WOULD have been invested in better features. Instead, Bioware chose a big publisher with open arms and thus completely sent their company down the drain. Understand me?


Your assuming that Bioware would have as much money as it has with EA then without EA.

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I'm wondering... would it be possible for one of the players to play through the SP campaign while another player (or players) aids him/her by playing "Galaxy at War" at the same time and on the same screen? You know, split screen with one guy playing Shepard and another fighting on every battlefield imaginable. That would be an intriguing notion, provided it could be done offline as well.

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sedrikhcain wrote...

I don't WANT multiplayer. I don't WANT my experience in multiplayer linked to single player in any way. I never even wanted that stuff in the game to begin with. It's bad enough it's in the game at all, now we find out that multiplayer will directly affect your single player experience. Yes, I get that they're telling us you'll be able to achieve the same ends in other ways but the content won't be the same and now if I want to experience as much as possible in the single player modes, I am forced to deal with multiplayer. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

This is TERRIBLE! I've been starving for this game for months and now this deeply troubling news. It's slipping away. It's all slipping away. Mass Effect addict that I am, I will buy this game, and I will play it. But that's it. I'm done. And I mean it. I love the Star Wars universe, and KOTOR, too, but they took that the MMO path and as a result I'm not buying it.

This is very, VERY disappointing news.


This is how popular publishers make money. Most people want muiltplayer because they need the instant stimulation and the connection to 'real' people. 

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Can't wait to play as a hanar rambo