Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War and 4 player co-op multiplayer announced
#576
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:41
Although, I would also like to know if we can do this multiplayer mode solo, and if so if it would just be our one character going through or if we would have 3 (or fewer, depending on the amount of players) AI characters.
#577
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:41
#578
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:41
Dragoonlordz wrote...
1136342t54 wrote...
"it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."
Had to do this.
Don't make yourself look more stupid than you already have. Reapeating the same flawed PR statement over and over without a clue as to why it is flawed just shows your stupidity.
Ok then you idiotic twit. Now explain to me without posting your stupid as hell opinions on why MP will destroy SP. How the hell is me attempting to inform others about a statement that has been glossed over by many to help tell them not to slit there wrists about MP is somehow showing my stupidity?
You see I can call you an idiot multiple times without provaction to.
#579
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:41
I'm just floored that this is actually happening. It just sounds like a cheap add on right now. It also feels very optional.
I'll wait for more news, but at least you didnt take away focus from the actual single player gameplay.
#580
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:42
#581
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:42
slimgrin wrote...
sedrikhcain wrote...
I don't WANT multiplayer. I don't WANT my experience in multiplayer linked to single player in any way. I never even wanted that stuff in the game to begin with. It's bad enough it's in the game at all, now we find out that multiplayer will directly affect your single player experience. Yes, I get that they're telling us you'll be able to achieve the same ends in other ways but the content won't be the same and now if I want to experience as much as possible in the single player modes, I am forced to deal with multiplayer. NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!
This is TERRIBLE! I've been starving for this game for months and now this deeply troubling news. It's slipping away. It's all slipping away. Mass Effect addict that I am, I will buy this game, and I will play it. But that's it. I'm done. And I mean it. I love the Star Wars universe, and KOTOR, too, but they took that the MMO path and as a result I'm not buying it.
This is very, VERY disappointing news.
This is how popular publishers make money. Most people want muiltplayer because they need the instant stimulation and the connection to 'real' people.
.....really? But the very reason most ppl play games like Mass Effectis because we get enough of real ppl during real life, single player games are an awesome break from that lol
#582
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:42
#583
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:42
#584
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:42
#585
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
Complistic wrote...
Guys is it possible to achieve the optimal complete ending of the game if I only play single player?
Yes. Did you read Priestly's post in its entirety?
#586
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
I don't care about optimal outcomes, I care that I will have every option available in a single player game. But this system is taking options and putting it in multiplayer, where I will have to buy Gold to play for what is suppose to be a single player game. That is annoying.
#587
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
onelifecrisis wrote...
The point, which I apparently didn't labor enough, is that the alternative to co-op will likely be laborious. Co-op gives a benefit in SP. We know that you don't need that benefit to win, but it will help. This implies that the same benefits (the same "optimal readiness level") can be achieved through SP alone, but we don't know how. Options are:
1) Extra SP missions for those who don't do co-op? Not likely IMO.
2) Some sort of laborious crap like planet scanning. Very likely IMO.
As I said in the edit that you missed, either co-op will make the game too easy or SP will be too laborious. You can't have it both ways.
Actually you missed the other option.
MORE DIFFICULT. The game will likely be more difficult (but not by much).
#588
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
1136342t54 wrote...
sedrikhcain wrote...
RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Christ's sake...it's OPTIONAL.sedrikhcain wrote...
"Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
I have now moved from concerned, to worried, to panic mode.
Doesn't matter. It means if I want to explore every aspect of the single-player campaign, then I must engage in multiplayer, otherwise I miss out. EPIC FAIL TO END EPIC FAILS!
And Christ has nothing to do with this.
"it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."
I read the faq, thank you very much. The point is, the content will vary. There are things that I won't see in my SP unless I consent to engaging in godforsaken MP, in a series that has NEVER been about that.
Honestly, if I'd known they were going to start messing around with MP for a money grab, I'd have bought SEVERAL extra copies of the first two games, just to boost their sales to keep it from happening.
#589
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
#590
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
JeffZero wrote...
"it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."
Yeah, we noticed, thanks.
Oh and BTW, it is possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 2 through single-player alone by scanning planets till you die of boredom.
#591
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:43
Modifié par Phazor58, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44 .
#592
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
sedrikhcain wrote...
RyuGuitarFreak wrote...
Christ's sake...it's OPTIONAL.sedrikhcain wrote...
"Success in multi-player will have a direct impact on the outcome of the single player campaign"
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
I have now moved from concerned, to worried, to panic mode.
Doesn't matter. It means if I want to explore every aspect of the single-player campaign, then I must engage in multiplayer, otherwise I miss out. EPIC FAIL TO END EPIC FAILS!
And Christ has nothing to do with this.
No, you don't - the bullet points kind of point out that you don't have to engage in multiplayer at all. Hmm, I guess I should quote those bullet points now:
What if I don’t like multiplayer – will my experience be negatively impacted?
- Mass Effect 3 is a complete, standalone game that will deliver a satisfying story experience, even if you choose not to try multiplayer. The Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War system and all of the individual components are meant to complement that amazing game and can be enjoyed on their own or as part of the Galaxy at War experience.
- ME3 is a story about a war against overwhelming force where the most you can hope for us survival. The more you do to fight that war, the more you can change that story into a more optimistic one. You can reach the highest levels of success in the single player experience alone, but Galaxy at War gives you alternative ways to get there. It’s about choice, and allowing players to find their own ways to stay immersed inthe Mass Effect universe.
Modifié par AtreiyaN7, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:46 .
#593
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
Sepewrath wrote...
I'm not one to whine about every little thing like some, but I don't like the idea of this being linked to the single player at all. If it was completely separate, I didn't want it, but I can deal with it. However linking it to the single player, even if you can so called get "the optimal outcome" without it, its still content I will miss unless I use it.
I don't care about optimal outcomes, I care that I will have every option available in a single player game. But this system is taking options and putting it in multiplayer, where I will have to buy Gold to play for what is suppose to be a single player game. That is annoying.
Preach it! We are being railroaded in some hopelessly doomed attempt to get the COD/MW crowd to buy this game.
#594
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
Modifié par Ghost Lightning, 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44 .
#595
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
#596
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
Dionkey wrote...
Holy mother of god....didymos1120 wrote...
So. What. That doesn't mean they WOULD HAVE been. How hard is this to grasp?
OKAY, LISTEN TO ME: I am saying if Bioware did not sell out to EA (or if they did sell out to EA and they were actually a sensible publisher), it WOULD have been invested in better features. Instead, Bioware chose a big publisher with open arms and thus completely sent their company down the drain. Understand me?
Or they would simply have a smaller budget. Bioware put together a whole new studio to work on this co-op. If this co-op didn't exist they wouldn't have this studio working on sidequest or something, the studio would simply not exist.
#597
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
1136342t54 wrote...
onelifecrisis wrote...
The point, which I apparently didn't labor enough, is that the alternative to co-op will likely be laborious. Co-op gives a benefit in SP. We know that you don't need that benefit to win, but it will help. This implies that the same benefits (the same "optimal readiness level") can be achieved through SP alone, but we don't know how. Options are:
1) Extra SP missions for those who don't do co-op? Not likely IMO.
2) Some sort of laborious crap like planet scanning. Very likely IMO.
As I said in the edit that you missed, either co-op will make the game too easy or SP will be too laborious. You can't have it both ways.
Actually you missed the other option.
MORE DIFFICULT. The game will likely be more difficult (but not by much).
Okay, let's indulge this notion if you care to. How do you envisage the difficulty change working (affecting the readiness meter)?
#598
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
I don't know... not do it at all? I realize we know next to nothing about this feature, but the thought of defeating the Reapers by filling up a readiness bar sounds lame. What are we gonna do, fill up our readiness meter to deliver a devastating combo attack against the Reapers?Complistic wrote...
ratzerman wrote...
Yeah, that sounds pretty damn bad.AlphaJarmel wrote...
The biggest problem I have with this is that horrible sounding Galactic Readiness level crap. So essentially all our choices boil down to a bar and how far filled up it is?
How should they have done it?
#599
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
Sepewrath wrote...
I'm not one to whine about every little thing like some, but I don't like the idea of this being linked to the single player at all. If it was completely separate, I didn't want it, but I can deal with it. However linking it to the single player, even if you can so called get "the optimal outcome" without it, its still content I will miss unless I use it.
I don't care about optimal outcomes, I care that I will have every option available in a single player game. But this system is taking options and putting it in multiplayer, where I will have to buy Gold to play for what is suppose to be a single player game. That is annoying.
The thing is you would never have the option of playing as another special ops group in SP. That is the main point. MP is doing more frontline like tasks in which Shepard may or may not be involved in. Remember the Galactic war is Galaxy wide. Shepard can only be in so many areas. The MP missions are the areas Shepard will likely not be fighting.
#600
Posté 11 octobre 2011 - 02:44
In Exile wrote...
Il Divo wrote...
Contrary to my earlier opinion, this sounds halfway decent. If given the choice, I'd still prefer these resources go to a single player campaign. But as it stands, my interest is piqued.
I'm drafting you for MP if it turns out to be good and/or neccesary for a good SP playthrough. Just as an fyi. We can regale each other in tales of how the JE story structure was better.
haha, done and done. Unfortunately, our "JE rules" convos will probably cause our team-mates to shoot us in the back. Not that we actually need anyone else for this.




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