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Mass Effect 3: Galaxy at War and 4 player co-op multiplayer announced


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ryoldschool wrote...

After reading the OP,


This is at odds with the rest of your post.

Modifié par spiral trick, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:27 .


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ryoldschool wrote...

After reading the OP, I must admit that I am disgusted. I pre-ordered ME3, and instead of putting all resources into making it a great game, they added this other "content" that I am not interested in. What BS. I play ME when I have time, I don't want to play with folk I don't know, and I don't want to schedule my playing time around when I can find three other folk, I do know, can play. What a disaster. I have xbox live and never play multiplayer ( I have it to get updates and DLC ), not to play damnnnn multiplayer.

Its like was mentioned all these months about adding other stuff to the game - we were worried that it would take away from the resources to make the game better. Damn, now you are telling me that not only you took resources away from the main game, but to access content that is relevant to the single player game I play must play multiplayer?

You just stole content from my pre-order!


Edmonton has been working on the single-player game exclusively this entire time though. Montreal was tasked with the production of multiplayer -- and Montreal wasn't part of the equation for either of the previous games.

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Will it be harder to get the most optimistic ending in only SP/...

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ryoldschool wrote...

After reading the OP, I must admit that I am disgusted. I pre-ordered ME3, and instead of putting all resources into making it a great game, they added this other "content" that I am not interested in. What BS. I play ME when I have time, I don't want to play with folk I don't know, and I don't want to schedule my playing time around when I can find three other folk, I do know, can play. What a disaster. I have xbox live and never play multiplayer ( I have it to get updates and DLC ), not to play damnnnn multiplayer.

Its like was mentioned all these months about adding other stuff to the game - we were worried that it would take away from the resources to make the game better. Damn, now you are telling me that not only you took resources away from the main game, but to access content that is relevant to the single player game I play must play multiplayer?

You just stole content from my pre-order!


They haven't taken resources away from the SP. They have two different teams dedicated to each respective mode. And the "optimal" ending is probably just poor wording. What they probably mean is that you'll get another ending to the SP game if you play MP. This gives players initiative to at least try out the MP.

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Pen and paper RPGs are the inseration of all video game rpgs. Are you forgeting a Game called Never winter nights that is D&D in electronic form made by this very company?:whistle:


And the main part of that was single player.

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Dragoonlordz wrote...

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BioWare says in the faq that your MP experience will affect your "galactic readiness". It's affecting your SP experience. I am making assumptions but I think they're logical ones. The only alternative is that they have no impact other than on some stupid "points" system. Both option are BS and I want to part of them.


From the fact that there is an iOS game and some other stuff, I'm leaning towards the points only assumption.  That also makes it the most portable and optional (if it weren't just points you'd have more complexity and more cost and I thought the point of all this according to some people is for the ca$h).


At this stage I just want clarification on just what level of impact and how the system will work as it stands. Hardly asking the world in asking such questions. Even if doesn't get answered right away. I think that is what both me and Sedrik plus others are asking for at the moment.


It says it's optional so I assume if you don't want the co op points to factor into your readiness level you don't have to.

Modifié par Complistic, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:31 .


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Lard wrote...


dreman9999 wrote...

Pen and paper RPGs are the inseration of all video game rpgs. Are you forgeting a Game called Never winter nights that is D&D in electronic form made by this very company?Image IPB


And the main part of that was single player.


Is anyone else laughing at this point? 

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 octobre 2011 - 03:29 .


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onelifecrisis wrote...

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"it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."

I'm going to make plaques with this
I'm going to hire blimps all over the world with this text attached to it
I'm going to convince Google to make flashing signs on every webpage known to man

They still won't get it.


It's really not that complicated. I fight battle at planet X in MP. my SP campaign gets content (cutscenes, dialogue, resources, allies, whatever) in relation to that. If I don't fight that battle in MP, I can still beat the Reapers but I won't get those cutscenes, dialogue, or whatever in my SP experience.

It's not about optimal outcomes. It's about content.


I think I understand now....I think.

And if I understand correctly, however succesful(or unsuccesful) you are in co-op, it effect how you intect with the single player game and how it interacts with you...so if my "readiness bar" is only half ready then despite all I have done in Mass Effect 1/2, I'll have a 50% chance of saving the galaxy...

F*** THIS S***!


I lol'd


You didn't get it. The only thing that the MP will affect is that the "Galactic Readiness" meter will increase. What does "Galactic Readiness" meter means? The amount of progress you've made through ME3 will increase that bar, telling you how successful your endeavor will be. The MP increase will NOT affect any content of the game, it will just make it easier to get the happiest of endings (or the most renegade one, if there is one). We don't know how it will affect multiple playthroughs, but we still have 5 months left 'till release so there's time to learn about that.

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Lard wrote...

Pen and paper RPGs are not comparable to a single player video game.


Tell that to your fellow blank-faced avatar user, Gatt9.

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They haven't taken resources away from the SP. They have two different teams dedicated to each respective mode. And the "optimal" ending is probably just poor wording. What they probably mean is that you'll get another ending to the SP game if you play MP. This gives players initiative to at least try out the MP.


Which they could have been using to beef up the single player game.

MP takes time, money and resources from the SP game every single bloody time.

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THEE_DEATHMASTER wrote...

Nashiktal wrote...

I am concerned that achievements will be tied into the multiplayer. :(

Why does that matter and how is that any different from any other game? They all have multiplayer achievements these days, doesn't stop me from not playing them :P


Achievements are always optional. I realize there's collectors out there but that should be another reason to grab some friends and experience more of the ME universe I think. :P

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Can we play as Geth?

Seriously, I would love to play as a "Geth Infiltrator". It would make sense if more platforms like Legion were created.

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Il Divo wrote...

Lard wrote...

And the main part of that was single player.


Is anyone else laughing at this point? 


I'm laughing at almost everything in here.

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Eshaye wrote...

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I am amazed on how fast people have drank the Kool-Aid.


Yeah because holy sh*t Bioware actually listened to it's players and gave us the best of both worlds. There's absolutely no reason to rejoice here at all. 

Go home you constant negative goiter people. 

Yes because of the 2 million plus people who played ME2 there were so many people clamoring for coop play in a single player game. There were what, 50, 100 people who were calling for multiplayer? Trying to say the people who post on BSN somehow represent the greater playing base is asinine. Not to mention you're making the assumption that the majority of people are going to like the multiplayer. How much you want to bet that there are at least 100 threads in the first week after release ripping the multiplayer?

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Lard wrote...

Pen and paper RPGs are not comparable to a single player video game.


Tell that to your fellow blank-faced avatar user, Gatt9.


They're more comparable to MMOs than anything.

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Lard wrote...


No, actually, probably 95% of the time, the chapter (and cut content) would be on the disc already.


Um, your source for that statistic please?

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Lard wrote...

MP takes time, money and resources from the SP game every single bloody time.

Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood.

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DaringMoosejaw wrote...

ryoldschool wrote...

After reading the OP, I must admit that I am disgusted. I pre-ordered ME3, and instead of putting all resources into making it a great game, they added this other "content" that I am not interested in. What BS. I play ME when I have time, I don't want to play with folk I don't know, and I don't want to schedule my playing time around when I can find three other folk, I do know, can play. What a disaster. I have xbox live and never play multiplayer ( I have it to get updates and DLC ), not to play damnnnn multiplayer.

Its like was mentioned all these months about adding other stuff to the game - we were worried that it would take away from the resources to make the game better. Damn, now you are telling me that not only you took resources away from the main game, but to access content that is relevant to the single player game I play must play multiplayer?

You just stole content from my pre-order!


Well, guess what! You don't have to!

You can play single-player, fill up that galactic bar using other methods and get all the same benefits as if you did multiplayer. I imagine it'll be a seperate button, and all you have to do is not push it! Bam, problem solved.


I think you missed the point.  They could have added more single player content with the resources they put into MP.

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Quole wrote...

Will it be harder to get the most optimistic ending in only SP/...


Exactly. And, for the context of the SP, it makes sense. Shepard fighting this war on his own = dificult. Shepard fighting this war with allies in far off places = easier. 

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Eshaye wrote...

Darkeus wrote...

I am amazed on how fast people have drank the Kool-Aid.


Yeah because holy sh*t Bioware actually listened to it's players and gave us the best of both worlds. There's absolutely no reason to rejoice here at all. 

Go home you constantly negative annoyances.


There were lots of little developments along the way that concerned me but I haven't done any complaining until now. And I don't know what you're talking about regarding them listening to fans. ME franchise die-hards who were jumping up and down and craving multiplayer were few and far between.

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Il Divo wrote...

Irrelevant. If you don't like dlc, don't buy it. See how easy that was? By your logic, we would not have expansions, sequels, or spin-offs because the developers didn't provide the entire storyline in one box. It's a weak man's argument at best.


Let not forget expansions that extend the story. Why do they get a pass? I should of gotten all that content with the main game!

I actualy remember NWN geting praised for its DLC (premium modules). It had the full single player game and story but the multiplayer did not take away from it.

Bioware has done it well in the past (Before the evil empire EA was involved) and I will reserve my judgment untill I acutally get my hands on ME3.

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Quole wrote...

Will it be harder to get the most optimistic ending in only SP/...

Make it harder.

I completed my first insanity run of ME2 as an adept, and achieved everyone's loyalty. In under 30 hours with less than 20 total deaths.

I welcome the challenge.

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Il Divo wrote...

Lard wrote...


dreman9999 wrote...

Pen and paper RPGs are the inseration of all video game rpgs. Are you forgeting a Game called Never winter nights that is D&D in electronic form made by this very company?Image IPB


And the main part of that was single player.


Is anyone else laughing at this point? 


Yep.  The main part of NWN was modding, if you ask me, with multiplayer a close second.

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Melchiah109 wrote...

Il Divo wrote...

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And the main part of that was single player.


Is anyone else laughing at this point? 


I'm laughing at almost everything in here.


You got me there.

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Il Divo wrote...

Lard wrote...


dreman9999 wrote...

Pen and paper RPGs are the inseration of all video game rpgs. Are you forgeting a Game called Never winter nights that is D&D in electronic form made by this very company?Image IPB


And the main part of that was single player.


Is anyone else laughing at this point? 


well i played NWN online for almost four years so yeah.. i'm laughing.