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[Iakus]

IPlayForBread wrote...

Taritu wrote...

So, getting an optimal outcome will be harder if I don't play MP and I don't want to play MP. It is my choice not to play, but doing so will gimp me.

Better be a brilliant SP campaign.

NO DON'T YOU READ
if you dont do the MP you can still get the best possible endings while playing SP

Can get the best ending.  But how much harder is it to accomplish if you don't?

[onelifecrisis]

Heh, I see that the Block function does nothing on this forum.

[LadyAlekto]

I do not like it as it sounds, i love multiplayer games, coop even, but none of the people i game with plays masseffect, and i wouldnt trust anyone of them in my me, i also want to achieve an ultimate finish by myself, will that be still possible?

[Iakus]

majinstrings wrote...

I'm sure that this multiplayer will be a very small part of the game...

My guess is that they're going to use it as a sort of test; see what people think of the multiplayer, how it can be improved...then Bioware will take what it learns from the multiplayer to better implement it in future Mass Effect games...

Just a guess, though...

And that's why I'm stopping after three.

I'm not even sure when I'll get ME3 at this pont.

[Lard]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Lard wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Smilietime wrote...

In reply to the OP:

I'm fine with it. Too bad there's probably been 40 pages of RUINED FOREVVVVVVVVFEEEER cries til
now.

Actually the response in this thread has been mostly negative.

No, it's been pretty positive so far.

Fair enough, though some people do seem quite disgruntled.

True say; though we can't expect everyone to respond positively to a rather large change like this.

Whatever is in the box above is not what I wrote. Changing the quotes to suit your point doesn't mean that people are excited about this.

[IliyaMoroumetz]

Am I one of the few people who's just more disappointed/frustrated/what have you, that we have to deal with Origin to play this game? I don't want EA putting their own version of Starforce on my machine.

As for the MP itself, if they can pull it off, great.  If not, oh well.  The Single player experience is what drew me into ME in the first place.

Modifié par IliyaMoroumetz, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:15 .

[yuncas]

I said stupid, stupid,stupid when I had no real information.

Now that I have info I'll cut it down to one stupid. I expect that this will not be the greatest thing ever, nor the worst, but certainly not a match for the mainline shooters of today, of whose quality I inevitably will measure this against. And I'm glad they had the foresight to realize that making co-op essential would have probably stirred up a butt-hurt hurricane of epic scope for at least some of their more devoted fans.

The reason I'm lukewarm at best towards co-op is that, for me, it goes against the spirit of the series being a focused single player experience. Nothing comes to mind when I think of what would have been lost if the multiplayer element was left out of it. These are of course my opinions.

[Bekkael]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

don-mika wrote...

for years they told us about mass effect trilogy and shepard story, and look what we got now
me3 will be my last bioware game, screw it

Seeing as how you have the incorrect answer literally standing in your sig, I'd expect you be surprised.

Wait... what?

A not-so-sublte joke on EA being the culprit behind all this.

Don't re-read your previous post, you won't notice any changes.

Weird comment to make...

That's incredibly immature and discourteous to change people's quotes in their posts. <_<

[Dark_Caduceus]

iakus wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

I'm sure that this multiplayer will be a very small part of the game...

My guess is that they're going to use it as a sort of test; see what people think of the multiplayer, how it can be improved...then Bioware will take what it learns from the multiplayer to better implement it in future Mass Effect games...

Just a guess, though...

Well, after this announcement I'm gonna get ME3 for sure, so a good test it msut be.

Agreed.

[PossibleCabbage]

I'm not going to rant and rave about how Bioware has ruined Mass Effect and they're clearly slaves to their evil corporate overlords, because that would be silly and unproductive.

But ever since Mass Effect 3 was announced my reaction to it was along the lines of "OMGIWANTTOPLAYITNOW, WHYCAN'TIPLAYITRIGHTNOW?" but today when multiplayer was officially confirmed for it, my reaction shifted more towards the lines of "I has a sad."

I mean, I'm still going to buy ME3 (I've had the CE on preorder for months), and I'm still going to enjoy it, I just wish it didn't have to be this way.

[Lucifer_Cheney]

Goodby Amazon CE pre-order...Hello Gamefly free trial rental!

[Terror_K]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Does the addition of co-op multiplayer missions impact the scope or quality of the single-player experience?

• No. A dedicated team from our recently formed BioWare Montreal studio has been focused on creating the multiplayer game features while the main game continued to be developed by the team in BioWare Edmonton. Both teams are integrated under the same leadership group that produced Mass Effect 1 and 2, led by Casey Hudson. BioWare remains dedicated to delivering one of the most amazing single-player campaigns gamers have ever experienced.

Lies. Of course it bloody will. Unless the main campaign is 80+ hours long with massive consequences and variations from our imports that result in wildy different outcomes, more sidequests than you can shake a stick at, vehicle open-world exploration in a whole bunch of vast, unique environments, more customisation than any BioWare game ever and huge levels and missions that are never linear in any way, then the multiplayer being added has impacted the scope and quality of the game.

Simply put: unless ME3 is the single greatest gaming experience I've ever had in all facets, the multiplayer has railroaded the game and wasted the potential of it. It's all very well to say that it was created by a seperate team dedicated to that aspect of the game, but said team, time and resources could have gone to something else, be it working on sidequests, exploration worlds, vehicle sections, customisation elements, making levels feel larger and more unique by simply building more on what's already there, etc. Resources, time and effort has still come out of the game's schedule and budget and been spent on something many of us feel is superfluous and quite simply wasted at this point. It doesn't matter what the MP entails or how different and unique it is... it's still there, has still diverted resources and time to being made and has still come to be tacked on in at the end of a single-player, story-driven trilogy where it simply isn't needed, and for the most part wasn't wanted.

I see no reason why it's been included genuinely at all to make the game better. It's just pandering to the Gears and CoD audience. Again. This is the same mentality at work that gave us Dragon Age 2. Perhaps I'd have more faith in the ability for it to not hinder the single-player aspect has ME2 been a resounding success when it came to depth, customisation and --most importantly given the context-- import decisions and choices and consequences. But it was severely lacking, particularly in the case of the latter where it was mostly emails, sweeping major events under the rug, and weak substitutions or downplaying the impact.

And now I'm supposed to believe ME3 will do a better job of these things when multiplayer is being jammed in there too? Yeah... okay... whatever you say, BioWare. <_<

[TheKillerAngel]

IliyaMoroumetz wrote...

Am I one of the few people who's just more disappointed/frustrated/what have you, that we have to deal with Origin to play this game? I don't want EA putting their own version of Starforce on my machine.

As for the MP itself, if they can pull it off, great.  If not, oh well.  The Single player experience is what drew me into ME in the first place.

What's your source for that?

[PantsOnFire]

I feel bad saying this, because I love Bioware to death, but....I really, really, REALLY hope that ME3 shows no notable increase in sales over ME2.

It's too easy to see EAs influence in all this and their attempts to streamline the game to make it more accessible to a wider audience. I would have been perfectly fine if they had make a Mass Effect spin-off that had a multiplayer element attached to it, but to see it just tacked on to ME3? It just feels wrong, so out of place. I'm not an EA hater or anything, but I wish they would see that games can be valuable without being loaded up with shooter features and needless multiplayer. I mean, honestly, does multiplayer belong in a Bioware game?

Obviously, I am still going to buy the game. I have no doubt that, overall, ME3 will be a great product. I'm not going to slam a game that is still 6 months from release. This is merely concern. Beyond ME3, I'm a little worried about the direction of Bioware. The Mass Effect and Dragon Age franchises are like fine wines, but EA is dumping buckets of water into them.

[Iakus]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Agreed.

You do realize you're not rearranging reality by altering my quote, right?

[onelifecrisis]

Bekkael wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

don-mika wrote...

for years they told us about mass effect trilogy and shepard story, and look what we got now
me3 will be my last bioware game, screw it

Seeing as how you have the incorrect answer literally standing in your sig, I'd expect you be surprised.

Wait... what?

A not-so-sublte joke on EA being the culprit behind all this.

Don't re-read your previous post, you won't notice any changes.

Weird comment to make...

That's incredibly immature and discourteous to change people's quotes in their posts. <_<

He's been doing it for at least two pages now/ Report the posts. That's what I'm doing. Maybe one of the mods will actually do their job.

[Pythonicus]

If ME Galaxy at War is so awesome why not just release it as a stand alone game and leave the SP game alone.

[LPPrince]

Kathleen321 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

I'd bet money there will be achievements tied to these.

oh no!!

<---- "achievment **** rage brewing in me" 

Pfft. I wouldn't mind. As long as they aren't mind bogglingly hard.

I could see (say there's 4 co-op missions), an achievement for beating each one, and an achievement for beating them all together. 5 achievements there, not that hard.

[didymos1120]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Heh, I see that the Block function does nothing on this forum.

I think it only blocks PMs.

[SSV Enterprise]

iakus wrote...

IPlayForBread wrote...

Taritu wrote...

So, getting an optimal outcome will be harder if I don't play MP and I don't want to play MP. It is my choice not to play, but doing so will gimp me.

Better be a brilliant SP campaign.

NO DON'T YOU READ
if you dont do the MP you can still get the best possible endings while playing SP

Can get the best ending.  But how much harder is it to accomplish if you don't?

No harder than if multiplayer didn't exist at all, I would think.

[StephanieBengal]

yuncas wrote...

I said stupid, stupid,stupid when I had no real information.

Now that I have info I'll cut it down to one stupid. I expect that this will not be the greatest thing ever, nor the worst, but certainly not a match for the mainline shooters of today, of whose quality I inevitably will measure this against. And I'm glad they had the foresight to realize that making co-op essential would have probably stirred up a butt-hurt hurricane of epic scope for at least some of their more devoted fans.

The reason I'm lukewarm at best towards co-op is that, for me, it goes against the spirit of the series being a focused single player experience. Nothing comes to mind when I think of what would have been lost if the multiplayer element was left out of it. These are of course my opinions.

 like this post. 

Far as the co-op, what will be, will be. 

[Dark_Caduceus]

onelifecrisis wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

don-mika wrote...

for years they told us about mass effect trilogy and shepard story, and look what we got now
me3 will be my last bioware game, screw it

Seeing as how you have the incorrect answer literally standing in your sig, I'd expect you be surprised.

Wait... what?

A not-so-sublte joke on EA being the culprit behind all this.

Don't re-read your previous post, you won't notice any changes.

Weird comment to make...

That's incredibly immature and discourteous to change people's quotes in their posts. <_<

He's been doing it for at least two pages now/ Report the posts. That's what I'm doing. Maybe one of the mods will actually do their job.

I'm sorry, I'll stop, please don't do it!

Seriosudly though, I don't think MP will detrimentally affect ME3's SP at all, hell, they might even be forced to make some AI which are actually challenging, we'd all like that right?

Modifié par Dark_Caduceus, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:19 .

[didymos1120]

iakus wrote...

Can get the best ending.  But how much harder is it to accomplish if you don't?

We currently have no idea.  Maybe it's easier.  Maybe it's about the same.  Who knows?

[Smilietime]

Listen up people:

I am a huge fan of the series, they are some of my favourite games of all time. But now, you have gone too far by presenting this optional feature that likely has zero impact on how I will want to play the game! I can't believe that you want to present players with more options! F*** you!

*sits down for dinner starts tucking into steak*

Mmm, this is good...

*vegetables get placed onto the table*

F*** this dinner! I loved this steak, and now you have to ruin it by offering me vegetables that are entirely my choice to eat or not! F*** you! F*** all of you!!

Modifié par Smilietime, 11 octobre 2011 - 05:26 .

[onelifecrisis]

didymos1120 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

Heh, I see that the Block function does nothing on this forum.

I think it only blocks PMs.

Great. No Ignore and no moderation. I guess this might be a good time to log off for a while.