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[CroGamer002]

This actually sounds great.

[Bekkael]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Lard wrote...

You're wrong.

How so? It's just my opinion.

It isn't a right or wrong situation, but people who are upset about multiplayer deserve understanding and compassion. They had specific hopes and wishes that (at least for now) have been crushed. That hurts them or makes them angry and those feelings are certainly valid.

Those of us who are indifferent or even excited about this new element can listen to them vent and offer a shoulder to cry on when needed. Kindness costs nothing but is often doubly repaid.

 

[Cainne Chapel]

jeweledleah wrote...

Cainne Chapel wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

I figured out how bioware can redeem this idiocy. sell MP as a separate feature. that way people who don't wish to pay full price for half a game, you know people who have zero interest in MP - can pay 40 bucks and those who do want MP-can pay the full price of 60. becasue that's what it feels like right now. unless you intend to play both features, you are basically paying full price for half a game.

someone made a steak dinner analogy earlier? it fits actually. you order a steak, just a plain steak and they bring you half a steak but with vegetables instead and they make you pay a full price. I don't want vegetables. I didn't order vegetables. I ordered full steak, not half of it.

right now the game is not worth the full price for me. I do not wish to pay for a feature that i will never use, feature so extensive that its quite literally its own campaign that feasibly affects the main one.

Really? Game isn't worth it now because they ADDED a co op component? So getting more than a single player game is now not worth it because they ADDED something?

*Sigh*

Somtimes the B*tching logic on these forums makes my head spin.  Did you even read the FAQ priestly posted with the announcement? By your logic, since I never used Jack, or Tali or Thane in my first ME2 playthrough it was a waste of money since I paid for characters I had no use for right?

......BSN for ya I guess....

no.  by this logic - it would be like bioware forcing you to pay for Kasumi, Shadow broker and arrival and telling you - but you don't have to play them, they are entirely optional.

Not Quite, its more like the Zaeed situation, Which is strange you dont whine about that.  He was forced on me as a free download... and i rarely used him at first! How dare they!  I should have only had to pay $30 for ME2 when it was first released!  After all it ONLY has a single player component right? So I'm only getting half a game.  I should have had a Co Op option as well like most games these days!


See how one can flip that easily?

Point being, I'm all for them adding more and more things into the game if they claim it doesn't effect anything.  Unfortunately I'm not a dev so I cant say what it can and can't effect, but as a person that actually buys things with money I earn from my job, more bang for the buck is always, ALWAYS, worth it to me.

Even if I dont use a feature on something.

My car can do 180mph theoretically as well, Never gotten it that high, doesn't mean I dont like to look at the speedo and smile.  Not gonna run back to the dealership whining that I should have paid less since I can't use 120mph of that regularly.

[LPPrince]

Mesina2 wrote...

This actually sounds great.

iknorite

I want to game with some BSNer friends of mine.

[ciaweth]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

lightsnow13 wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

How do you know that it's bad, though? It's not March yet. Let's not be pessimistic about something we have no knowledge of.

It isn't that it's bad or good multiplayer; it's that it's multiplayer.

D*mmit, Mass Effect introduced me to RPGs, to world of a (mostly) single player genre!

F*ck, I really do feel like crying.

If this really makes you want to cry...I worry for you. Spend some time doing something else.

Oh, I'm not some diehard ME fan who does nothing else. It's been weeks since I played either, in fact.

But I just feel betrayed.

I think it's time for you to re-evaluate your emotional attachment to things you cannot control.

[Dark_Caduceus]

mrcrusty wrote...

I only hope that BioWare will extend this to Multiplayer Co-Op romances and LIs.

I mean, think about it: LIs and scenes of any race, or recreating any NPC, ShepxShep, even up to foursomes.

It's about time BioWare recognise the merit behind Multiplayer Co-Op LIs and romances.

Imagine the possibilities!!



IT WILL BE HEAVAN!!

This remind me of the Home Alone box art...

[Comsky159]

Ah ****

[Zanallen]

Terror_K wrote...

Yeah... because it's sooooo much better for the game when the big boss hands money to simply go towards pandering and wedging a superfluous element in there just to broaden appeal than for something that actually adds to the game in any meaningful way. Beyond that, it's far more presumptuous to believe that they were given special multiplayer funding than to believe it simply came from the existing budget. Until BioWare outright states that EA gave them a bonus for MP implementation that overwise wouldn't have existed, I'm going to believe that they didn't and that the costs, time and resources are being, IMO, wasted.

So you don't know then. Gotcha. Let me know when you get the full budgetary facts.

[MGIII]

Mesina2 wrote...

This actually sounds great.

It really does.

[alex90c]

Interesting stuff. Too bad it takes place on earth though, that's pretty lame tbh.

[Lard]

Terror_K wrote...I'm going to believe that they didn't and that the costs, time and resources are being wasted.

Fixed it. You don't need to put IMO in your statement, because what you're saying is factually correct.

[Esbatty]

I now carry Mass Effect 3's children.

[LPPrince]

ciaweth wrote...

I think it's time for you to re-evaluate your emotional attachment to things you cannot control.

Sound advice that everyone should follow.

[Soul Cool]

alex90c wrote...

Interesting stuff. Too bad it takes place on earth though, that's pretty lame tbh.

Oh my god, I think this is the most brilliant comment in this thread so far. This is priceless.

[ciaweth]

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

[Lard]

Bekkael wrote...

It isn't a right or wrong situation

Except it is. You either have common sense and don't want MP in the game or don't have it and want MP.

[NOD-INFORMER37]

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

How do you know that it's bad, though? It's not March yet. Let's not be pessimistic about something we have no knowledge of.

It isn't that it's bad or good multiplayer; it's that it's multiplayer.

D*mmit, Mass Effect introduced me to RPGs, to world of a (mostly) single player genre!

F*ck, I really do feel like crying.

Bioware has made other games that have multiplayer. Like NWN, BG2, and Shattered Steel. And those worked.

And those except Shattered Steel were RPGs.

Well I never played those, so I guess I wouldn't know.

I guess it's just that I never, never play MP games...and this this happens.

I cannot think of a more appropriate situation to say "I never asked for this".www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par NOD-INFORMER37, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:07 .

[MGIII]

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really like their vision for integrating multiplayer. It doesn't detract from the single player, but it's still relevant to it should you choose to participate. I'm on board with the content, just not the way Bioware went about announcing it (i.e. they always denied its existent instead of saying "no comment").

They never outright denied multiplayer.

Sigh* I won't argue with you.  If you want to believe that go ahead.

I believe facts, yes.

Check the confirmed features thread yo.  There are sources and links.  They will say more than my words to you will.  Then again, if you don't care, don't check.  It won't really affect my life whether or not you stick to your "facts" or actually get informed.

And really it won't affect yours either.  This is what we call a first world problem haha

Only link I found pertaining to the topic at hand was the Game Informer article, which did not outright deny multiplayer. Ever.

[AbsoluteApril]

Apollo Starflare wrote...
I stand by my initial opinion - that this seems like something that deserved it's own spin off game post ME3 - but the concept is really impressive.

agreed. I am disheartened to read this coop news, exactly what I didn't want to hear (any type of MP, yuk). The ME trilogy to me is a SP campain. I will still hope for the best  (already pre-ordered), I'm sure the game is going to be amazing... the parts I'll get to play at least.

unless someone will say if we can play with 3 AI...?
broken record...

karthikc wrote...

Needs to be asked: Can I play the co-op mode with three bots?

if so, then I'll stop whining.


I hope collecting all those turian insignias in ME1 will help them fight with me in ME3... maybe that will be the same as the gains from coop.

[Darkeus]

Soul Cool wrote...

Darkeus wrote...
You say that now... If it works out then fine but this sounds tacked on and I don't have a lot of faith that it is going to work.  I feel like it will affect the Single Player negatively and will detract from what is supposed to be the important part of the game, the Single Player story. 

Well, I've been playing games with terrible grinding (10 years of Runescape and counting, woot.) in them for the past ten years, but I have never, until the Mass Effect series, had to deal with a resource grinding system that was capable of driving me away from the game that I would otherwise generally enjoy. I am greatful they are attempting to alleviate that.

I feel like this is a cash in attempt by EA and it is sad.  This will not bring in new fans....  And it alienates existing fans that have been here from the beginning.

I've played the Mass Effect series since the original. (Originally on the 360, then moved to PC. I even bought Mass Effect 2 twice because of the system move. Of course they ruined that because they gave me a free copy because of how terrible DA 2 was.)

And I liked the Mako, just not the crappy terrain they made you drive on.  The Mako could have been easily fixed and made better.

Well, when a studio considers planet scanning a "fix" to a bad vehicle system, I'm not sure if I should stop buying their games or keep buying them to fulfill my yearly masochist quota.

1. Yeah, but there are better ways to allievate that problem than, "Here is some tacked on MP even though you really didn't want it."

2.  Well, it has alienated some and some like.  Most are being optimistically cautious.

3.  Yeah, scanning was bad.  That was not how they needed to fix the Mako.  They just needed better terrain and a better drive.

[Soul Cool]

ciaweth wrote...

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

It's like armchair generalship. Except the person doing the armchair project managing doesn't even have the vageuest idea of what they're talking about. At least people who armchair general-it up generally know that shooting the enemy, and not yourself, is a good thing.

[RamirezWolfen]

Bekkael wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Lard wrote...

You're wrong.

How so? It's just my opinion.

It isn't a right or wrong situation, but people who are upset about multiplayer deserve understanding and compassion. They had specific hopes and wishes that (at least for now) have been crushed. That hurts them or makes them angry and those feelings are certainly valid.

Those of us who are indifferent or even excited about this new element can listen to them vent and offer a shoulder to cry on when needed. Kindness costs nothing but is often doubly repaid.

 

This game isn't serious business.