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[Nashiktal]

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really like their vision for integrating multiplayer. It doesn't detract from the single player, but it's still relevant to it should you choose to participate. I'm on board with the content, just not the way Bioware went about announcing it (i.e. they always denied its existent instead of saying "no comment").

They never outright denied multiplayer.

Sigh* I won't argue with you.  If you want to believe that go ahead.

I believe facts, yes.

Then you have the wrong facts. Bioware stated multiple times that there was no multiplayer. No vagueness, no dodging, just outright no. They said Mass Effect was a single player experience.

In fact in the previous multiplayer thread before this one someone posted the very articles where they denied multiplayer. Go do a quick google search. Hell joystiq even has their own special based on the back and forth of it all.

[Zanallen]

Lard wrote...

Fixed it. You don't need to put IMO in your statement, because what you're saying is factually correct.

You have such a trollish understanding of facts and opinions.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

mrcrusty wrote...

I only hope that BioWare will extend this to Multiplayer Co-Op romances and LIs.

I mean, think about it: LIs and scenes of any race, or recreating any NPC, ShepxShep, even up to foursomes.

It's about time BioWare recognise the merit behind Multiplayer Co-Op LIs and romances.

Imagine the possibilities!!



IT WILL BE HEAVAN!!

This remind me of the Home Alone box art...

That was not a response I was expecting.

[MGIII]

Lard wrote...

Terror_K wrote...I'm going to believe that they didn't and that the costs, time and resources are being wasted.

Fixed it. You don't need to put IMO in your statement, because what you're saying is factually correct.

lolno

You're averaging a triple double in inability to distinguish opinion from fact, lack of reading comprehension, and misrepresentation.

[yuncas]

mrcrusty wrote...

I only hope that BioWare will extend this to Multiplayer Co-Op romances and LIs.

I mean, think about it: LIs and scenes of any race, or recreating any NPC, ShepxShep, even up to foursomes.

It's about time BioWare recognise the merit behind Multiplayer Co-Op LIs and romances.

Imagine the possibilities!!



IT WILL BE HEAVAN!!

Two rape faces AND UGLY SHEPARD??!?!?!?!?!? Winning!!!!!!

[ciaweth]

Soul Cool wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

It's like armchair generalship. Except the person doing the armchair project managing doesn't even have the vageuest idea of what they're talking about. At least people who armchair general-it up generally know that shooting the enemy, and not yourself, is a good thing.

This is true.  Maybe more like armchair quarterbacking from people who can't throw a spiral pass to save their lives.

[Biotic Sage]

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really like their vision for integrating multiplayer. It doesn't detract from the single player, but it's still relevant to it should you choose to participate. I'm on board with the content, just not the way Bioware went about announcing it (i.e. they always denied its existent instead of saying "no comment").

They never outright denied multiplayer.

Sigh* I won't argue with you.  If you want to believe that go ahead.

I believe facts, yes.

Check the confirmed features thread yo.  There are sources and links.  They will say more than my words to you will.  Then again, if you don't care, don't check.  It won't really affect my life whether or not you stick to your "facts" or actually get informed.

And really it won't affect yours either.  This is what we call a first world problem haha

Only link I found pertaining to the topic at hand was the Game Informer article, which did not outright deny multiplayer. Ever.

 I almost did research for you.  Maybe we will meet up in the galactic war.  I will enjoy attempting to tear you apart with my mind as an Asari commando.

[didymos1120]

Biotic Sage wrote...

Check the confirmed features thread yo.  There are sources and links. 

Well, on the "No MP" thing the source in the CF thread is some guy on GameFAQs' post summarizing what he thought the Game Informer article back in April said. Hint: it didn't say what he thought it said.  Casey Hudson's quote actually said "We have nothing to announce at this time."

[JeffZero]

Bekkael wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Lard wrote...

You're wrong.

How so? It's just my opinion.

It isn't a right or wrong situation, but people who are upset about multiplayer deserve understanding and compassion. They had specific hopes and wishes that (at least for now) have been crushed. That hurts them or makes them angry and those feelings are certainly valid.

Those of us who are indifferent or even excited about this new element can listen to them vent and offer a shoulder to cry on when needed. Kindness costs nothing but is often doubly repaid.

 

You're such a good forumite, Bekkael. I'm glad we have you onboard.

[GuardianAngel470]

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

How do you know that it's bad, though? It's not March yet. Let's not be pessimistic about something we have no knowledge of.

It isn't that it's bad or good multiplayer; it's that it's multiplayer.

D*mmit, Mass Effect introduced me to RPGs, to world of a (mostly) single player genre!

F*ck, I really do feel like crying.

Bioware has made other games that have multiplayer. Like NWN, BG2, and Shattered Steel. And those worked.

And those except Shattered Steel were RPGs.

Yes but now EA's involved.......we all know how great EA made the gaming world. (Dead Space 2, C/C4, yeah EA really improved those games xP)

You're right, Mass Effect 2 was a terrible game and so much worse than Mass Effect 1.

People tend to conveniently forget the big EA logo when they start up ME2...

[ciaweth]

Mother of god, do we need to bring [citation needed] to BSN?

[Eckswhyzee]

For the last time:

"could have spent the money on single player" is NOT THE SAME as "would have spent the money on single player"

[Nashiktal]

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

Lard wrote...

You're wrong.

How so? It's just my opinion.

It isn't a right or wrong situation, but people who are upset about multiplayer deserve understanding and compassion. They had specific hopes and wishes that (at least for now) have been crushed. That hurts them or makes them angry and those feelings are certainly valid.

Those of us who are indifferent or even excited about this new element can listen to them vent and offer a shoulder to cry on when needed. Kindness costs nothing but is often doubly repaid.

 

This game isn't serious business.

Sixty plus dollars is. To both bioware and the consumer.

[LPPrince]

lightsnow13 wrote...

LPPrince wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

This actually sounds great.

iknorite

I want to game with some BSNer friends of mine.

I'm on the verge of adding both of you as friends. I don't really see a clear-cut downside to extra content and playing with other people a game that will no doubt be awesome.

Go for it. Do note though that I pay ZERO attention to who or who may not be on my friend's list here and that by BSNer friends, I mean forumites I've known for a long time who've made names for themselves.

[Esbatty]

ciaweth wrote...

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

That explains the nurses station on every floor at Capcom HQ.

[Soul Cool]

Lard wrote...

Bekkael wrote...

It isn't a right or wrong situation

Except it is. You either have common sense and don't want MP in the game or don't have it and want MP.

It's a good thing "common sense" has only the tinniest tangential relation to video game budgeting or design, then.

[sidveloper]

I'm pretty exicted to hear about this, but I really hope they include some sort of story based co-op missions. From what I read I'm picturing some random "Bomb the base" or "Kill all enemies" type of missions, though fun with friends, I would like some sort of small story. Maybe something similar to the flashpoint's they're doing for The Old Republic.

[alex90c]

Soul Cool wrote...

alex90c wrote...

Interesting stuff. Too bad it takes place on earth though, that's pretty lame tbh.

Oh my god, I think this is the most brilliant comment in this thread so far. This is priceless.

hm?

[Cainne Chapel]

Come on.... Everyone knows EVERYONE on the internet is an expert in what EVERYONE else wants or needs.

Especially, ESPECIALLY when it comes to video games. Or TV shows, or movies... etc

[MGIII]

Nashiktal wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

MGIII wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really like their vision for integrating multiplayer. It doesn't detract from the single player, but it's still relevant to it should you choose to participate. I'm on board with the content, just not the way Bioware went about announcing it (i.e. they always denied its existent instead of saying "no comment").

They never outright denied multiplayer.

Sigh* I won't argue with you.  If you want to believe that go ahead.

I believe facts, yes.

Then you have the wrong facts. Bioware stated multiple times that there was no multiplayer. No vagueness, no dodging, just outright no. They said Mass Effect was a single player experience.

In fact in the previous multiplayer thread before this one someone posted the very articles where they denied multiplayer. Go do a quick google search. Hell joystiq even has their own special based on the back and forth of it all.

Find me some quotes where any reputable source outright said "no multiplayer, ever."

That never happened. It was always half answers like, "ME will always be a single player first game." or "we have nothing to announce about multiplayer at this time" or "we haven't been able to incorporate multiplayer in a viable manner yet."

But, fans being fans, took those statements as gospel against multiplayer. Wasn't the first time lemmings succumbed to PR speak.

[GuardianAngel470]

ciaweth wrote...

Soul Cool wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

It's like armchair generalship. Except the person doing the armchair project managing doesn't even have the vageuest idea of what they're talking about. At least people who armchair general-it up generally know that shooting the enemy, and not yourself, is a good thing.

This is true.  Maybe more like armchair quarterbacking from people who can't throw a spiral pass to save their lives.

Psssh, you yankees and your American football analogies. Like you own the goddam world, expectin everyone to understand you.

[sedrikhcain]

MGIII wrote...

I can totally understand why Bioware tiptoed around this for months now. It was bound to happen. I like to think that it's just a couple people posting across numerous accounts that comprise the bulk of the salt-riddled posts decrying Bioware. But, alas, people are so self entitled they demand things their way or the highway. Which is a shame, because GaW sounds like an awesome and novel spin on co-op the likes of which gaming has rarely seen, nevermind an action RPG franchise.

Bravo, Bioware. Ignore these lames.

Wait a second, we're wrong and "lame" just because we don't like the idea? Your opinion is automatically more valid just because you do?

WTF?

[Eckswhyzee]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

NOD-INFORMER37 wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

EternalAmbiguity wrote...

RamirezWolfen wrote...

How do you know that it's bad, though? It's not March yet. Let's not be pessimistic about something we have no knowledge of.

It isn't that it's bad or good multiplayer; it's that it's multiplayer.

D*mmit, Mass Effect introduced me to RPGs, to world of a (mostly) single player genre!

F*ck, I really do feel like crying.

Bioware has made other games that have multiplayer. Like NWN, BG2, and Shattered Steel. And those worked.

And those except Shattered Steel were RPGs.

Yes but now EA's involved.......we all know how great EA made the gaming world. (Dead Space 2, C/C4, yeah EA really improved those games xP)

You're right, Mass Effect 2 was a terrible game and so much worse than Mass Effect 1.

People tend to conveniently forget the big EA logo when they start up ME2...

Yeah. because DA:O was total rubbish. EA really f***ed that one up.......

[ciaweth]

Esbatty wrote...

ciaweth wrote...

Every time a player armchair project manages, a real project manager somewhere gets varicose veins.

That explains the nurses station on every floor at Capcom HQ.

Ahaha!  Possibly!