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[Lard]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

Lard wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really don't care enough to dig up the source where Casey Hudson himself said "no multiplayer in ME3," but I remember it, and unless I'm taking crazy pills, that or something very close to that did happen.

Look: were they kinda sneaky about it?  Hell, yes. Did they allow people to think they heard what they wanted to hear?  Also yes.  But they were also very, very careful about their wording and avoided giving outright denials like the plague.  They got pretty close on occasion, but they never quite got all the way there.

So you're saying they deliberately misled people. I agree.

Despicable behaviour.

I hope to god you don't own any Apple products.

I certainly don't. I have a brain.

[Imagerunner]

does anyone know if the co-op thing will be cross platform or if its for that
platform only, like if i had the pc version while my friends had the xbox 360 or ps3
versions would i be able to play with them?

Modifié par Imagerunner, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:27 .

[NOD-INFORMER37]

mrcrusty wrote...

Comsky159 wrote...

Does anyone else feel like this is an immersion breaker?

I mean Mass Effect so far has all been about forming a dynamic, yet personal relationship between the player and the universe through the tool that is Commander Shepard. Now this relationship and the temperamental fabric of immersion has been ripped apart for a social cause.

Mass Effect isn't about being social dagnamit! It's about escapism from the trappings of reality; real relationships, real issues, real people. I can't imagine why Bioware would spend so much time crafting and expounding this kind of imagination inspiring/facilitating world just to violate it like this.

I feel like I'm in a damn polygamous relationship now!

That'd be pretty kewl.

A chatroom for setting up Co-Op games in the SP campaign.

So you'd be like:

"Gonna go to the next planet and see if I can secure their alliance against the Reapers, they've been hostile to humans before, likely because of the actions of Cerebus recently, but they know what's at stake. I think that maybe, just maybe, they'll side with m- You have received a new message on OriginBook:

SsSsSsSup Brah!! Wanna go blast some husks!! Woot I'm only liek 2000 credits from reaching GalacPrep lulz!! Cmon mang maybe we can do some of the other missions, hey d'you hear about that crap in the news?!?"

lol exactly, this is why Mass Effect never should have had such a feature (at least one not so tied in with the story)

Mass Effect isnt about getting the highest score on the leaderboards or running/gunning through enemies while your CoD-addicted friend is blaring Eminiem tossing out moronic war cry`s and sexual slurs here and there, its about being wrapped in an awesome *single player* world, isolated from the everyday nonsense we have to deal with.  

[Robuthad]

Thank you Soul Cool!
As for the whole co-op thing, I'll be interested to see if playing it and the single player will cause the effect of "galactic readiness" to stack onto the single player or is it more of a play this or that scenario

[ciaweth]

CaptainSpandex wrote...

IGN's Editorial Staff Reacts to Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer

Wow. One of the only times I've seen the editors at IGN - which traditionally are some of the more tolerant and pro-EA writers in the gaming journalistic milieu - unite in their hatred for an announcement. And I have to agree with them. Mass Effect with co-op sounds absolutely horrendous.

Nice try, but two of those comments are predicated on fundamental misunderstandings of the co-op play announcement.  One guy actually thinks there will be Shepards bumming around with other Shepards.

Modifié par ciaweth, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:28 .

[Lard]

CaptainSpandex wrote...

IGN's Editorial Staff Reacts to Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer

Wow. One of the only times I've seen the editors at IGN - which traditionally are some of the more tolerant and pro-EA writers in the gaming journalistic milieu - unite in their hatred for an announcement. And I have to agree with them. Mass Effect with co-op sounds absolutely horrendous.

"So because it's such a personal experience, I feel as though multiplayer
might muddle things up by finding a generic middle ground or taking
away what makes the character special to me in the first place."

That's exactly what I just said. For once I agree with IGN.

[jeweledleah]

AntiChri5 wrote...

btw - ability to play multiplayer missions as solo with henchmen is an acceptable compromise. becasue as it stands right now? this is basically content that is unacessible to me. not optional. unacessible. and yet if I wanted to play a main game, I have to pay for it.

If that is fine, then why is the option to have some of your human friends join in not?

becasue Cris, dear - its not an option.  if I can play alone - i could care less if you play with others.  but I cannot play alone.  I have to play with other people or not play at all. but still pay for it. 

at least I'm goddamn trying to find a compromice here that would work you know for all involved.  discounted game that comes with single player only.  or multiplayer being available as a solo option.  something that doesn't just lock out content while still requiring full price.

make no mistake about it.  I still feel that multiplayer HAS taken away from single player development.

[MGIII]

Lard wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really don't care enough to dig up the source where Casey Hudson himself said "no multiplayer in ME3," but I remember it, and unless I'm taking crazy pills, that or something very close to that did happen.

Look: were they kinda sneaky about it?  Hell, yes. Did they allow people to think they heard what they wanted to hear?  Also yes.  But they were also very, very careful about their wording and avoided giving outright denials like the plague.  They got pretty close on occasion, but they never quite got all the way there.

So you're saying they deliberately misled people. I agree.

Despicable behaviour.

No, they played it right. They eased it in really well. This reaction is a fraction of what it would have been if multiplayer was announced when ME3 was. The wall of multiplayer ignorace was chisled away at, until finally, the flow of novel co-op gaming broke through.

And the people rejoiced while the insocial ones grumbled dark, incomprehensible things underneath their breaths.

[sedrikhcain]

Soul Cool wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...
Try $120, because I live in Australia and that's what ME deluxe editions cost here -- on PC that is. Console is even more. If you're happy with MP, good for you, but I'm sick of hearing people act like anybody who doesn't accept every development hook line and sinker, just as announced is some kind of crybaby. BioWare isn't giving us these games out of the kindness of their hearts. We pay a lot of money for them.

And you know the best way to announce that you won't stand for the changes they are making (Posting about it on the forums is optional, but always acceptable.)? Don't buy their games. Go find other to play. There are literally thousands out there. It may not be Mass Effect, but Mass Effect is seriously not the be-all-end-all of video games, of any sort. In fact, the series itself has only had one good showing (Mass Effect), and one "okay" showing (Mass Effect 2). So far that adds up to a "decent" series for me, but not enough to justify day one purchases for a studio that has demonstrated that they cannot be trusted to produce a quality product. (DA 2 is the primary one here.) Of course, since that was the exception to me, and not the rule, I will still consider buying the game new, just not day one.

I loved ME 1 & 2, which is why I'm watching 3's development so closely. I'm quite good at voting with my wallet, believe me. I'll never buy DA2 and not buying the Star Wars MMO either (despite loving KoToR and the SW franchise). My larger concern, however, is that EA really does seem to be pushing BioWare towards more decisions designed to make the last dollar. DA2 was, IMO, a casualty of this and I'm concerned that it may be happening to ME3 and future games as well. It's all deeply troubling.

[sedrikhcain]

MGIII wrote...

Lard wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really don't care enough to dig up the source where Casey Hudson himself said "no multiplayer in ME3," but I remember it, and unless I'm taking crazy pills, that or something very close to that did happen.

Look: were they kinda sneaky about it?  Hell, yes. Did they allow people to think they heard what they wanted to hear?  Also yes.  But they were also very, very careful about their wording and avoided giving outright denials like the plague.  They got pretty close on occasion, but they never quite got all the way there.

So you're saying they deliberately misled people. I agree.

Despicable behaviour.

No, they played it right. They eased it in really well. This reaction is a fraction of what it would have been if multiplayer was announced when ME3 was. The wall of multiplayer ignorace was chisled away at, until finally, the flow of novel co-op gaming broke through.

And the people rejoiced while the insocial ones grumbled dark, incomprehensible things underneath their breaths.

Good way to put it.

[MGIII]

jeweledleah wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

btw - ability to play multiplayer missions as solo with henchmen is an acceptable compromise. becasue as it stands right now? this is basically content that is unacessible to me. not optional. unacessible. and yet if I wanted to play a main game, I have to pay for it.

If that is fine, then why is the option to have some of your human friends join in not?

becasue Cris, dear - its not an option.  if I can play alone - i could care less if you play with others.  but I cannot play alone.  I have to play with other people or not play at all. but still pay for it. 

at least I'm goddamn trying to find a compromice here that would work you know for all involved.  discounted game that comes with single player only.  or multiplayer being available as a solo option.  something that doesn't just lock out content while still requiring full price.

make no mistake about it.  I still feel that multiplayer HAS taken away from single player development.

Just play the single player. Quit with the strawman and ad hoc ergo propter hoc.

[SilentNukee]

Which characters can I play in co-op multiplayer? Can I play as Commander Shepard?
Commander Shepard’s part in the war will take place in the single-player campaign, as will that of other beloved characters in the franchise such as Garrus, Ashley, and Liara…these characters do not appear in the multiplayer missions. In multiplayer, players will create custom characters to fight on different and unique fronts in the war. This will include the ability to play as favorites like Turians, Krogans, Asari and more… each with their own unique set of abilities.

This sounds so badass. I can finally play as an Asari/Turian and people won't **** because it's not Shepard or an already established character!

[Fiery Phoenix]

didymos1120 wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

don-mika wrote...

for years they told us about mass effect trilogy and shepard story, and look what we got now
me3 will be my last bioware game, screw it

Seeing as how you have the incorrect answer literally standing in your sig, I'd expect you be surprised.

Wait... what?

A not-so-sublte joke on EA being the culprit behind all this.

Re-read your quoted post.  Notice any changes?

Way to go, Dark Caduceus. I hope you realize altering people's posts is a very bannable offense.

[Lard]

MGIII wrote...

No, they played it right. They eased it in really well.

Refusing to comment and misleading people into thinking it would be a single player game is not "easing people int it".

[jbg927]

Good God this website has gone to the tank! On topic: I have complete faith that this game will NOT have an impact on my game as I will ignore it completely and I believe that it will be COMPLETELY optional. BUT from reading the faq it does seem tacked on and kind of boring once the "I AM PLAYING AS A HOT ASARI" wears off. Hey, maybe I'll be wrong and it will be the best co op experience ever.

[AmyMac]

Chris Priestly wrote...
Does the addition of co-op multiplayer missions impact the scope or quality of the single-player experience?

• No. A dedicated team from our recently formed BioWare Montreal studio has been focused on creating the multiplayer game features while the main game continued to be developed by the team in BioWare Edmonton. Both teams are integrated under the same leadership group that produced Mass Effect 1 and 2, led by Casey Hudson. BioWare remains dedicated to delivering one of the most amazing single-player campaigns gamers have ever experienced.

I'm holding you to this, Bioware. Otherwise, I could care less.
If there's achievements for doing multiplayer stuff luckily I have a couple friends from my undergraduate days who I'll do the co-op with to get them, but that's about it.

[AntiChri5]

becasue Cris, dear - its not an option.  if I can play alone - i could care less if you play with others.  but I cannot play alone.  I have to play with other people or not play at all. but still pay for it. 

at least I'm goddamn trying to find a compromice here that would work you know for all involved.  discounted game that comes with single player only.  or multiplayer being available as a solo option.  something that doesn't just lock out content while still requiring full price.

make no mistake about it.  I still feel that multiplayer HAS taken away from single player development.

But why isn't an option?

[Soul Cool]

Robuthad wrote...

Thank you Soul Cool!

I am teh winrar. *flexes*

Robuthad wrote...
As for the whole co-op thing, I'll be interested to see if playing it and the single player will cause the effect of "galactic readiness" to stack onto the single player or is it more of a play this or that scenario

I'm looking forward to see how they tie it in to the "galactic readiness" resource. I'm already imagining a squard of Turians infiltrating a Cerberus facility to steal vital information that ransfers to a Salarian team that cracks the data that passes it onto an Asari/Human science team to turn into a useful inflitration routine for use against Husk on the battlefields.

[didymos1120]

Holy crap. I just realized that I haven't seen one "Ah yes, X" post on this thread.

[ADLegend21]

SilentNukee wrote...

I will make love to my copy of ME3 as soon as I get it.

[sTrYkZ1LLa]

I hope they add a lot of multiplayer achievements/trophies!!

[Biotic Sage]

didymos1120 wrote...

Biotic Sage wrote...

I really don't care enough to dig up the source where Casey Hudson himself said "no multiplayer in ME3," but I remember it, and unless I'm taking crazy pills, that or something very close to that did happen.

Look: were they kinda sneaky about it?  Hell, yes. Did they allow people to think they heard what they wanted to hear?  Also yes.  But they were also very, very careful about their wording and avoided giving outright denials like the plague.  They got pretty close on occasion, but they never quite got all the way there.

Ok, like I said, the sneakiness is what was going on "at the very least."  And all I'm saying is I don't like that haha.  Whether there was a direct quote or not is kind of a moot point.  I like a good solid "no comment."  Every professional marketer will tell you that's the way to handle things in that kind of situation.  Not string consumers along and let fans believe one thing, especially when you frequently indicate that they SHOULD believe said thing. 

I actually like the multiplayer announcement in terms of content.  Seems interesting and fun.  So we can all move on, I'm cool with that.  I'm not going to vow vengeance on Bioware and its children; I'm just going to be more skeptical of their PR from now on.  Credibility -15.

[onelifecrisis]

AmyMac wrote...

I could care less

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Modifié par onelifecrisis, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:34 .

[jeweledleah]

MGIII wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

btw - ability to play multiplayer missions as solo with henchmen is an acceptable compromise. becasue as it stands right now? this is basically content that is unacessible to me. not optional. unacessible. and yet if I wanted to play a main game, I have to pay for it.

If that is fine, then why is the option to have some of your human friends join in not?

becasue Cris, dear - its not an option.  if I can play alone - i could care less if you play with others.  but I cannot play alone.  I have to play with other people or not play at all. but still pay for it. 

at least I'm goddamn trying to find a compromice here that would work you know for all involved.  discounted game that comes with single player only.  or multiplayer being available as a solo option.  something that doesn't just lock out content while still requiring full price.



make no mistake about it.  I still feel that multiplayer HAS taken away from single player development.

Just play the single player. Quit with the strawman and ad hoc ergo propter hoc.

you are all heart and soul of compromice, arent' you.<_<  I don't know about you, but you know not living in my parent's basement and having to actualy budget - I cannot afford to pay for content that I will never use.  60 dollars is a lot of money.  80 dollars for collector's edition even more so. 

@ Cris.  because I will not be playing multiplayer.  just like I'm not
playing portal 2 co-op.  or Borderlands.  but with Borderlands - I can
pass the entire game and access ALL of the content on my own.  ME forces
you to either play co-op to see all of its content... or basicaly
payfor content you never see.  a choice to do or not to do is not really
a choice.

Modifié par jeweledleah, 11 octobre 2011 - 06:37 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

sTrYkZ1LLa wrote...

I hope they add a lot of multiplayer achievements/trophies!!

ADLegend21 wrote...

SilentNukee wrote...

I will make love to my copy of ME3 as soon as I get it.

That should be one of the achievements.