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[JeffZero]

I keep reading that as "don't ask, don't Tali".

I need to go to sleep.

[The_11thDoctor]

gamer_girl wrote...

That sounds great! Thanks for the update, Chris! =D

That about sums it up! But I wander if we'll be able to customize these races like we do our Shepard and on a deeper level OR if we only get to choose Krogan face 1-3 or something, which would suck! It would be great adding custom Alien faces/bodies etc as a new ME feature! Sad that you cant have your Custom Shepard in the Co-Op/ MP modes, but Im just glad it's in the game for now. Even though it's separate... Not looking forward to all the fights on highest difficulty going solo each mission... I hope the improved the party AI... Like adding AI to them...

Dear Bioware,
Thank you for finally adding CO-OP! I hope you do what Uncharted 2's CO-OP/MP did for that game in ME3! No one knew what to expect, but ended up still playing it 2+ yrs later. Thank you.

Dear BSN,
If your whining over an extra OPTIONAL feature, please stop. You're making no sense and show only your ignorance. It's a feature you CAN TRY. If you like it, great! Let's play online! If not, sorry it didnt work out or maybe Bioware didnt do great with it? Time will tell. But games are made of OPTIONS.

You can shoot or use biotics
You can use a pistol, sniper or a shot gun,
you can paragon or renegade during a conversation
you can romance someone/ pick someone or not
you can pick default Shep or customize
You can change you armor or not
you can pick team mates or die
you can play or not play the game

You can grow up and learn how to read or you can keep whining over features someone other than you asked for. I'd be upset over features leaving the game, not being added for the off chance I want to try it out. ME2 removed a TON of features from the game and there are tons of fans not happy with ME2 due to features being taken out. Seems they're making ME1 and 2 fans happy. More RPG elements and a better made Shooter. I think Charlie Sheen's "Winning!" quote goes best here.

Dear Chris,
You have been busy man! I never seen so many threads opened and closed in such a short time! So much excitement and prehistoric nerd rage all in a short span of time... You need a raise! LOL! Say the fans said you needed one in the forums and if you (Casey) agree, share the love! Not that you're asking for one... *cough*

[Mister Mida]

Well if Priestly speaks true, at least I won't have to look at a 90% readiness rating after I did everything possible in the single player, only to find out that I need to do co-op in order to go 100%.

Modifié par Mister Mida, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:41 .

[Da3mon]

Well I'm certainly interrested! Hopefully it wont be another Horde mode, but more of a separate co-op mission mode, similar to Portal 2.

[Robuthad]

It's indeed late. And many of us are talking in circles. Or circles

[Ahzrei]

How can you say that the development of a multiplayer component doesn't at all diminish the quality and scope of the single player? Even with a different team, there are a lot of resources that went into making the multiplayer. Resources that could have been used making the single player experience longer/better.

I am upset by this.

[shonefob]

jeweledleah wrote...

shonefob wrote...

jeweledleah wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Oh, BTW, here's an ME quote you anti-MP folk can surely find some use for:

"I'm no fan either, but we're stuck with it."

becasue surely that's a good attitude to have. 

I'm no fan of don't ask don't tell, but we're stuck with it

and tall me, oh wise multiplayer fans.  what exactly do you have agains an option of multiplayer levels being avalable for offline play using henchmen?  becasue at least that way, there's isn't a whole plethora of content that's been locked out from people who are "stuck with it"

Don't ask don't tell was removed from teh military   Also don't see anyone who said anything about having a problem with you playing with computers, but if there was I am sorry they have said so I would approve with the option aswell.  Would like to just play with one other person and than other two players could be computers.

I know it was.  becasue people refused to just "be stuck with it"  and fought to fix it.  I proposed being able to play offline with henchmen as one of the possible compromices becasue as it stands right now - if you don't play multiplayer, you are basicaly paying for a wholelot of content you are not using, and its not bonus content contrary to the claims from some people here.

Well no it is not bonus content, but there are a lot of games that take this approach ingiving many options to try and please all.  You may play an MMORPG for the roleplaying and story, but not like the PvP so avoid it and still enjoy the game and pay the same amount as everyone else.  Also I figure this will just make the game more re-playable and last longer.  Although I do not expect to convince you so I shall stop.

[didymos1120]

Da3mon wrote...

Well I'm certainly interrested! Hopefully it wont be another Horde mode, but more of a separate co-op mission mode, similar to Portal 2.

Seems to be the latter, though I wouldn't be surprised if a couple missions were done Horde-style. I mean, the Reapers have invaded and everything, so it seems like you'd run into situations like that at least a few times across the galaxy.

[aquariusfromhell]

I would love this co-op if it DID NOT influence single player campaign.

[didymos1120]

Ahzrei wrote...

How can you say that the development of a multiplayer component doesn't at all diminish the quality and scope of the single player?

I can't say it didn't.  Contrariwise, you can't say for certain that it did.  Neither of us has enough information to make that judgment, and we likely never will.

[didymos1120]

aquariusfromhell wrote...

I would love this co-op if it DID NOT influence single player campaign.

You don't need to gain readiness via co-op.  You simply can if you want to.

[Reptilian Rob]

Lets set the record straight, once and for all. I hate to sound pretentious or like I'm trying to poise myself as the "ONLY VOICE OF REASON", but a lot of the posts, comments and dealings in this thread are ones made out of spite and blind rage.

Lets look at the facts, and what Bioware as a company has always strived to be at it's core, a developer that wants to make games for those gamers who value story, characters and environment more so than social gaming. I must admit, like a lot of you I was confused and worried by this announcement, that is until I saw this...

"It is important to note that the system is entirely optional and just another way players can have control over your game experience – it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."

This instantly put my fears to rest, as someone who played Mass Effect as a way to get away from the social aspect of gaming and enjoy a single player immersive story. Not once has Bioware given us any indication that they are skimping on the Campaign of the last Mass Effect game. Look at Wikipedia, or any other news site, Mass Effect three has forty THOUSAND lines of dialog, that is twice the amount in Mass Effect 2, giving a good indication that the story, setting and characters will be the main focus of Mass Effect 3.

(Source)
http://www.gamersboo...es-of-dialogue/

Again, what we see here stems from blogs and gaming news sites that promote fear mongering so they will gain "hits" for their site. We have Destructoid posting nonsense that has no factual backing, we have EA sounding like Mass Effect 3's main offering is the Co-Op to influence sales and we have the fans foaming at the mouth because something in their universe is changing. All this, without hearing the one people's words that matter, Bioware's. Have they given any of us any indication that this game wont be anything but brilliant, wonderful and a a true conclusion worthy of the Mass Effect name? No, I don't think they have.

I was someone who went to this years Comic Con, living in San Diego I go every year. I found my way to the Mass Effect hotel first and foremost when attending, I met several of the Bioware staff who were immensely proud of Mass Effect 3, not because of the gameplay but the story they wove and the universe they created. Do you really think a company who worked so hard to make incredible single player games would just shift all of a sudden? Even with EA's influence Bioware still has done an incredible job staying their course. Sure, Dragon Age 2 wasn't so great, but they came out and said it wasn't, and they wouldn't let that happen again. And I truly believe they wont, the majority of their fan-base is single player minded, and alienating them would loose sales and support.

I think some of us, need to stop and take a deep breath. Rest assured, as someone who loves this franchise probably more than he does any other, I feel as though my worries being put to rest through the updates being given. Before you let yourself descend into rage and discontent, look at all the avenues and all the facts. It will save you a lot of worry, anxiety and nerd rage.

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:52 .

[Sellyprime]

Can we get playable Volus please

[TheKillerAngel]

Ahzrei wrote...

How can you say that the development of a multiplayer component doesn't at all diminish the quality and scope of the single player? Even with a different team, there are a lot of resources that went into making the multiplayer. Resources that could have been used making the single player experience longer/better.

I am upset by this.

That sort of thinking can be used to argue against any sort of innovation, on the grounds that trying something new is never worth it.

[Remus Artega]

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Modifié par Remus Artega, 11 octobre 2011 - 07:57 .

[majinstrings]

Ahzrei wrote...

How can you say that the development of a multiplayer component doesn't at all diminish the quality and scope of the single player? Even with a different team, there are a lot of resources that went into making the multiplayer. Resources that could have been used making the single player experience longer/better.

I am upset by this.

I have a problem with this idea that the resources were being used on multiplayer instead of single player...as if they decided not to do MP they would have spent all of those rescources into SP

I believe they used however many rescources developing the SP as they would've without MP...

They've likely got a target budget but that 'target' is something they don't want to go past; it's not the amount that they are planning to spend...I really doubt that the rescources spent on MP development would've been used on SP...
It's not like they're sitting around going: "Well, the game is just about done...but we're not even close to going over our budget."

"What should we do?"

"I guess we should delay the release and make more game; try to blow through all this money!"

[shonefob]

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Haha I do not beieve so.  The max would most likely be 100% if you got that in SP than the MP would just be played for fun.

[Zanallen]

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

It is rumored that you can go over 9000%.

[Eckswhyzee]

jeweledleah wrote...

I know it was.  becasue people refused to just "be stuck with it"  and fought to fix it.  I proposed being able to play offline with henchmen as one of the possible compromices becasue as it stands right now - if you don't play multiplayer, you are basicaly paying for a wholelot of content you are not using, and its not bonus content contrary to the claims from some people here.

I know that this + splitscreen will go a long way towards assuaging people's fears about multiplayer. If the multiplayer were online only, my past self from 3 months ago would be raging, but I was lucky enough to ditch my crappy connection. I feel your pain, offline people. I really do.

[Soul Cool]

Ahzrei wrote...

How can you say that the development of a multiplayer component doesn't at all diminish the quality and scope of the single player? Even with a different team, there are a lot of resources that went into making the multiplayer. Resources that could have been used making the single player experience longer/better.

I am upset by this.

Look. Seriously, this is wrong. You are aruging yourself into enforced stasis here. This argument can and does enforce the idea that any change, of any kind, is wrong, because money/time spent on development of those changes "could be better used elsewhere".

And how do you know with certaint that the budget for this project was not expanded due to the multiplayer component expenses? (In which case no extra money would have been spent because that's not how budgets work.)

[majinstrings]

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

[Dread Lord CyberSkull]

Sounds great, but judgement will be reserved until I get it in my grubby hands.

Also, will multiplayer be on a 3rd disc like in RAGE?

[Reptilian Rob]

majinstrings wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

*Shepard looks at readiness meter, see's 120%*

"I should go..."

[Icinix]

So...


What you're saying is...


ME3 WILL have some kind of multiplayer component to it?

Huh! Who knew? Totally never saw that one coming....

[rolson00]

ok ok bioware this does sound awsome :-D altho it also sounds like your testing the waters for an mmo.