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[elitecom]

The greatest thing about this Co-Op is that it's completely option and won't affect the singleplayer story unless you play it, that's great.
Also since there are two teams, even if the delay is caused due to this Co-Op mode, wouldn't that meant that the team in Edmonton will have more time on their hands to polish ME3?

[didymos1120]

FDrage wrote...

Now you making as much a big assumpt as the people on the other side of the fence ...

with easier means you have more optioon to accomplish the goal. If you like CO-OP then you got 1 more avvenue if you don't get max readiness level on your own, either because one didn't have the skill or due to story related choices that you wanted to make / have made in the past.

You seem to be missing my point: yes it's another avenue.  But that doesn't mean it actually makes things significantly easier.  I'm simply pointing out possibilities you've neglected to consider.  For example, let's say for the sake of argument you can do 10 single player tasks to max out, or 10 co-op missions.  How long does it take to do only the former?  How long to do only the latter?  How long would it take to do five of each?  What if all those times are pretty much equal? If that's the case, has your ME3 life really been made any easier in any significant way by the co-op?  Similar questions can be asked about difficulty in terms of the combat involved, if both paths happen to be combat-oriented, of course. Which isn't a given in the least, and which raises another question: if the SP path doesn't involve combat, how do we even compare them in order to determine their relative "easiness"?

[Bryy_Miller]

I think it's really cool and only the next logical step that MP becomes a part of SP (of course optional).

[Inutaisho7996]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

shonefob wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

*Shepard looks at readiness meter, see's 120%*

"I should go..."

Reapers after Shepard reaches 130%-www.youtube.com/watch

*Reapers trying to fix thier broken ships after Shepard has reached 150%*

Shepard fighting the reapers with 0% www.youtube.com/watch

[Fiery Phoenix]

didymos1120 wrote...

rolson00 wrote...

the only question now is how good are the online graphics

Hmm, good question.  I don't think any difference would be drastic, but there could easily be some use of less detailed textures and dropped effects to keep performance up.

Multiplayer tends to be graphically less sophisticated than its singe-player counterpart so that would make sense.

[didymos1120]

XJigsawX wrote...


I remember reading that. I have the feeling that what he said meant that both editions will have the ability to use it and not that standard version owners won't have to pay extra.
Correct me if I'm wrong though!

OK, found it:

Bryan Johnson wrote...

UrsulaCousland wrote...

 Couple of questions if anyone's looking

First:
for XBox, would both my spouse and I have to register respective copies
of the game to play, or is our one copy enough? (or will it be
downloaded/purchased separately from the main game?)

Second, will Galaxy at War be part of the Collecter's Edition?

Galaxy at War is part of all editions

Sound like it's included to me.

[masterkajo]

Don't know if it has been answered or is even know yet but:

Will the multiplayer have spoilers? I mean if I just played the single player for like half an hour and then decide to go multiplayer won't I be spoiled about key battles ahead in the single player? And if I wait until I finish the single player the multiplayer part won#t help my galaxie...

That is what worries me.

[shonefob]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

shonefob wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

*Shepard looks at readiness meter, see's 120%*

"I should go..."

Reapers after Shepard reaches 130%-www.youtube.com/watch

*Reapers trying to fix thier broken ships after Shepard has reached 150%*

Shepard fighting the reapers with 0% www.youtube.com/watch

Before the Big battle Shepard makes his move for a paramour-www.youtube.com/watch

[MarauderESP]

well ill buy the game to see how shp history ends, but ill wait, after da2 (i know diferent teams, but SAME company EA/BW) still trying to recover from lossing those 60€, i wont play those coop unless there´s the option to set those companions as IA , becouse i dont want to play with somebudy called "earullzz69" or "iatemysox15" , and frankly if would like toy play online ill play dark souls or BF series

[rolson00]

masterkajo wrote...

Don't know if it has been answered or is even know yet but:

Will the multiplayer have spoilers? I mean if I just played the single player for like half an hour and then decide to go multiplayer won't I be spoiled about key battles ahead in the single player? And if I wait until I finish the single player the multiplayer part won#t help my galaxie...

That is what worries me.

the only thing i can suggest is...

[didymos1120]

masterkajo wrote...

Don't know if it has been answered or is even know yet but:

Will the multiplayer have spoilers?

I was wondering about that myself.  Maybe they only unlock after certain points have been reached in the game.  I could see that, combined with them being available from the start on subsequent playthroughs.

[onelifecrisis]

Reptilian Rob wrote...

Lets set the record straight, once and for all. I hate to sound pretentious or like I'm trying to poise myself as the "ONLY VOICE OF REASON", but a lot of the posts, comments and dealings in this thread are ones made out of spite and blind rage.

Lets look at the facts, and what Bioware as a company has always strived to be at it's core, a developer that wants to make games for those gamers who value story, characters and environment more so than social gaming. I must admit, like a lot of you I was confused and worried by this announcement, that is until I saw this...

"It is important to note that the system is entirely optional and just another way players can have control over your game experience – it is still possible to achieve the optimal, complete ending of the game in Mass Effect 3 through single-player alone."

This instantly put my fears to rest, as someone who played Mass Effect as a way to get away from the social aspect of gaming and enjoy a single player immersive story. Not once has Bioware given us any indication that they are skimping on the Campaign of the last Mass Effect game. Look at Wikipedia, or any other news site, Mass Effect three has forty THOUSAND lines of dialog, that is twice the amount in Mass Effect 2, giving a good indication that the story, setting and characters will be the main focus of Mass Effect 3.

(Source)
http://www.gamersboo...es-of-dialogue/

Again, what we see here stems from blogs and gaming news sites that promote fear mongering so they will gain "hits" for their site. We have Destructoid posting nonsense that has no factual backing, we have EA sounding like Mass Effect 3's main offering is the Co-Op to influence sales and we have the fans foaming at the mouth because something in their universe is changing. All this, without hearing the one people's words that matter, Bioware's. Have they given any of us any indication that this game wont be anything but brilliant, wonderful and a a true conclusion worthy of the Mass Effect name?

Quite a few indications actually.
1. Arrival. Sh!te, plot-breaking DLC made for the sole purpose of milking the last bit of money out of ME2 fans at the bare minimum of expense to BW.
2. Save the Earth. Sh!te, ridiculous ME3 premise designed to attract more people to the series by reshaping the existing stakes into something easily grasped by new players.
3. Shepard's Trial. Nonsensical shoehorned plot device which, I'm guessing, will allow new players to make decisions from the previous games (similar to the ME2 interactive comic).
4. Too many loose ends and plot holes. ME1+2 left a lot of questions, unresolved player decisions, and unfinished character story arcs. LotSB and Arrival only served to add to this mess. The known facts about ME3's story, rather than promising to resolve these issues, have instead only added even more questions to the list.

Reptilian Rob wrote...

No, I don't think they have.

I was someone who went to this years Comic Con, living in San Diego I go every year. I found my way to the Mass Effect hotel first and foremost when attending, I met several of the Bioware staff who were immensely proud of Mass Effect 3, not because of the gameplay but the story they wove and the universe they created. Do you really think a company who worked so hard to make incredible single player games would just shift all of a sudden? Even with EA's influence Bioware still has done an incredible job staying their course. Sure, Dragon Age 2 wasn't so great, but they came out and said it wasn't, and they wouldn't let that happen again.

When/where did they say that? I saw an interview with Mike Laidlaw in which he tried to spin the negative reaction to DA2 into positive PR BS... I hope you're not referring to that?

Reptilian Rob wrote...

And I truly believe they wont, the majority of their fan-base is single player minded, and alienating them would loose sales and support.

I think some of us, need to stop and take a deep breath. Rest assured, as someone who loves this franchise probably more than he does any other, I feel as though my worries being put to rest through the updates being given. Before you let yourself descend into rage and discontent, look at all the avenues and all the facts. It will save you a lot of worry, anxiety and nerd rage.

Personally, I'm long past worry and anxiety. I could stop nerd raging but it's kindof a hobby.

[rolson00]

didymos1120 wrote...

masterkajo wrote...

Don't know if it has been answered or is even know yet but:

Will the multiplayer have spoilers?

I was wondering about that myself.  Maybe they only unlock after certain points have been reached in the game.  I could see that, combined with them being available from the start on subsequent playthroughs.

ahhh just imagine an epic battle on earth fighting as a team sound awsome?

[XJigsawX]

didymos1120 wrote...

XJigsawX wrote...


I remember reading that. I have the feeling that what he said meant that both editions will have the ability to use it and not that standard version owners won't have to pay extra.
Correct me if I'm wrong though!

OK, found it:

Bryan Johnson wrote...

UrsulaCousland wrote...

 Couple of questions if anyone's looking

First:
for XBox, would both my spouse and I have to register respective copies
of the game to play, or is our one copy enough? (or will it be
downloaded/purchased separately from the main game?)

Second, will Galaxy at War be part of the Collecter's Edition?

Galaxy at War is part of all editions

Sound like it's included to me.

I didn't remember what UrsulaCousland had written.
Having read that now, I agree with you.
Thanks Didymos!

Modifié par XJigsawX, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:07 .

[didymos1120]

onelifecrisis wrote...

 I could stop nerd raging but it's kind of a hobby.

Well, I like that you have no pretensions about it.

[Inutaisho7996]

shonefob wrote...

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

shonefob wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

*Shepard looks at readiness meter, see's 120%*

"I should go..."

Reapers after Shepard reaches 130%-www.youtube.com/watch

*Reapers trying to fix thier broken ships after Shepard has reached 150%*

Shepard fighting the reapers with 0% www.youtube.com/watch

Before the Big battle Shepard makes his move for a paramour-www.youtube.com/watch

Shepard after testing his reach www.youtube.com/watch

[onelifecrisis]

didymos1120 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

 I could stop nerd raging but it's kind of a hobby.

Well, I like that you have no pretensions about it.

I'll assume you mean that nicely and say thanks. 

[rolson00]

onelifecrisis wrote...

 Shepard's Trial. Nonsensical shoehorned plot device which, I'm guessing, will allow new players to make decisions from the previous games (similar to the ME2 interactive comic).

not really shepard wiped out a star system

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

My perception is:  disks only hold so much room.  Even if we have two seperate pools of resources to draw on (which I am not convinced) you're still putting the results into a single container.  Or two containers, or however many disks it ends up fitting on.

Which leads to: Could both fit without cutting something from one or the other?

Of all the concerns I have, this is the least of my worries. Plus, wasn't the latest word that ME3 would be on approximately four disks? If we assume ME3 to have a similar content level of ME1/ME2, I could still see how it could work in terms of disc space.

[Cellander]

Yesterday I said that I didn't want a classic multiplayer feature in Mass Effect, that it would just be there for the sake of it. I also said that if done right it could be awesome. This seems to head in the right direction. Coop is something that really could contribute to the series.

The confirmation about no impact on the singleplayer experience makes me warm.

I hope 2 players will be enough though. *craving for more details*

Modifié par Cellander, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:16 .

[Il Divo]

ddman12 wrote...

Look Il Divo, I have no problem with you or coop games in general. However, you still have never given me a reason why a coop mode is necessary for a single player game? You think its fun? Great. Once again then I wish Bioware would make a complete coop game completely separate from ME3.

I never gave you a reason because I don't consider co-op necessary for a single player game. You pointed out Baldur's Gate/Neverwinter Nights as not being equivalent examples. I demonstrated that you do not, in any way, need to engage in the multiplayer to achieve the best ending. It simply provides an alternative method for players (who so choose) to obtain similar resources for the end game. Now if (and when) Bioware announces that multiplayer can lead to differing dialogue/endings/whatever in the main campaign, then I will agree with your statement that the multiplayer has necessarily affected the singleplayer. Until then, they remain two separate experiences. 

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 octobre 2011 - 01:21 .

[Inutaisho7996]

rolson00 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

 Shepard's Trial. Nonsensical shoehorned plot device which, I'm guessing, will allow new players to make decisions from the previous games (similar to the ME2 interactive comic).

not really shepard wiped out a star system

And worked with a terrorist organization.

[onelifecrisis]

rolson00 wrote...

onelifecrisis wrote...

 Shepard's Trial. Nonsensical shoehorned plot device which, I'm guessing, will allow new players to make decisions from the previous games (similar to the ME2 interactive comic).

not really shepard wiped out a star system

Yeah. He also has a stealth ship and a galaxy The Earth to save. Exactly why would he bother attending a trial where the best outcome is him back on his ship where he was before the trial?

[Il Divo]

Gatt9 wrote...

Bioware's said alot of things,  many of which aren't true,  between ME2,  DA2,  and ME3.  Not real sure why you're trying to use this as a point of debate,  it's like claiming that this time a politician really is telling the truth!

Some things Bioware said aren't true does not equate to all things Bioware said not being true. And here we can get into a debate regarding what you think Bioware has "lied" about. You don't trust Bioware so you assume the opposite scenario, that multiplayer is a necessity for the single player experience. Based on what? Your crazy conspiracy theories regarding how EA is the devil and everyone hates Bethesda games? You'll understand if that's not enough for me to go on. There are multiple forms of bias, you simply represent the opposite end of the scenario.

Modifié par Il Divo, 11 octobre 2011 - 09:19 .

[shonefob]

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

shonefob wrote...

Inutaisho7996 wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

shonefob wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

majinstrings wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

so if I do complete SP playthrough and gain 100% readiness and also do a co-op missions ...the galaxy will be ready for like what.. 120%???

Yes! Then the citizens of the galaxy will take care of the Reapers while Shepard goes on vacation with (your LI here)

*Shepard looks at readiness meter, see's 120%*

"I should go..."

Reapers after Shepard reaches 130%-www.youtube.com/watch

*Reapers trying to fix thier broken ships after Shepard has reached 150%*

Shepard fighting the reapers with 0% www.youtube.com/watch

Before the Big battle Shepard makes his move for a paramour-www.youtube.com/watch

Shepard after testing his reach www.youtube.com/watch

After which Shepard gives a speach, that brings all the arguing to this forum to an end-www.youtube.com/watch